Celtic Banter Archive July 13 2017

13 Jul 2017 21:48:42
See Ryan Christy scored for Aberdeen tonight, hope he does well this season.

13 Jul 2017 22:36:59
Good to see him on the scoresheet but another shocking result in Europe from our second best team. They will go over there and that will be the end of their European run. All our countries teams out to opposition from Luxembourg, Bosnia, and Lithuania. Not even the Champions of those countries. "We're just a poor wee Country how can we compete" is no longer an excuse, there is a far bigger underlying problem to the pathetic displays in Europe by our teams.

13 Jul 2017 23:31:28
I must say that's a bit worrying. Scottish teams are out of Europe so regularly and quickly its hard to gauge the standard at all. Unless, well, its sh | te, and we are already outperforming reasonable expectations. Bo || ocks to that, right?

14 Jul 2017 00:06:18
That's the thing Cavalcanti, I really don't think the league here is worse than that of the nations our teams get pumped off every year in the first rounds of qualifying. It's this attitude we have, that we're nothing and deserve to get pumped, that is dragging us down. The Lisbon Lions were called lions because of their attitude, the belief they could take anyone on. That's gone from Scotland now, replaced by this defeatist mentality that losing is just our lot and to be expected.

14 Jul 2017 01:19:55
The problem lies partly with the SFA or SPFL they don't seem to want to help clubs in Europe. The ties start far too early before even pre season, Lincoln Red Imps is an example of rustiness so early on. If this was 3,4 or 5 games in I am sure teams would at least reach group stages of Europa. Are we really surprised that our first games are in Europe and our teams struggle? Its not going to improve until something changes on a larger scale.

{Ed007's Note - The Bosnian league runs from July to May, has 12 teams and a winter break which nips the stupid summer football idea in the bud for a while hopefully. Apart from Celtic the rest of our league is probably comparable to the Bosnians although I did expect Aberdeen to win at home and draw away.}

14 Jul 2017 08:19:45
I don't think summer football is the answer but I'd shift the start of the season maybe a month earlier.
If our teams were up to speed then they'd have a better chance.

14 Jul 2017 09:09:51
Attitude is part of what makes good players and teams though. The results speak volumes.

14 Jul 2017 14:21:59
Exactly my thinking on it Jim, the negativity towards our game from press, tv and the EPL know it all nuggets has been going on for yrs, Then when a team does well the press fire in with the old ( how long can they keep him mince) , Small mentality from top to bottom and the powers that be are happy with that as they think they are doing a good job.

13 Jul 2017 13:52:05
An Omen maybe, horse running today in 2.35 Newmarket Invincible Army 9/ 2
good jockey on board as well in Silvestre de Sousa.

13 Jul 2017 15:37:05
You missed tribute act in the 1520 Doncaster won at evens tim.

13 Jul 2017 17:00:17
ha ha well it was an omen a blooming BAD OMEN lol
well done Welshboy with your horse
But I am on safer ground with the football, the "tribute act's" conquerors are playing Limassol tonight, it will not be a huge price but the Cypriot team will win even though game is away from home, heat will not be a problem for them, I am so confident I would put my house on a Limassol win (but Mrs T has hidden the deeds lol)

13 Jul 2017 08:54:32
As you can see from my previous post I am concern about the lack of experience in the squad ( not the first eleven but the squad as a whole)
Now i have been looking to see if there are any hidden gems in the EPL for loan or cheap buys aka Scotty Sinclair
I have come up with these names i am sure you can more

Danny Ward GK
Phil Jagilka CD
James MaCarthy/ Mohamoud Besic CM
James Wilson CF

Honest and fair comments are welcome.

13 Jul 2017 09:26:24
Haven't Everton quoted leicester 25 million for mcarthy .

13 Jul 2017 10:11:03
I really don't see us going for EPL players, the wages will dictate that jonace, yeah DRB they want 25 mill . wouldn't want him for half that quote tbh. mental market down there.

13 Jul 2017 10:25:38
No more midfielders for now please CH and maybe a third striker but difficult that when you only playing one up front to keep happy.

13 Jul 2017 10:29:25
The English game is on another planet! And I don't just mean from us, it's from everyone! Excluding your barcas madrids and maybe Bayern, nobody else can get close to competing! Perfect example of it is the boy at swansea siggurdsson, who I like as a player btw.50 million pound they'r talking about,50 million! For a player who spent all season fighting relegation! Make me sick to my stomach honestly! I've said it before but to me football isn't football anymore, that mob down there have ruined it! I used to love watchn the games down there but I don't even bother now! 25 million for James McCarthy! Staggering!

14 Jul 2017 01:23:00
I wouldn't worry about what league the player comes from . What I think is more important is the ability of the newcomer to play in the Celtic team and in Scotland. No point in having a really top youngster if he needs a warm sun on his back . I know almost every EPL player that is any good is priced through the roof but if we do come across one that is within our budget at least we have a fair idea if he settles in Scotland . Buying in players on a tight budget is probably the most difficult job in management.

13 Jul 2017 00:11:33
Just want to put my tuppence worth in, as usual.

In my humble opinion the board deserve credit for backing the manager AGAIN with the signing of Ntcham. Then again they have to. But come on, credit where it's due.

13 Jul 2017 08:42:09
The older generation of fans understand the job PL has done, and also realise that that's the way our market works, I do feel the youglings haven't the patience for it imo, they want signings yesterday. Outwith the ronnie gamble ( still think he done ok) , I think he's done a great job. A excellently run club who are financially in a great position.

13 Jul 2017 19:35:23
Bhoywonder

It makes no difference if you are old or young. I personally would prefer that we got signings in and bedded in ASAP so they can help us qualify for the champions league rather than our previous "wait until we get there and spend a bit of money, oh no we're out" attitude.

What BR said makes a lot of sense about the Premier League clubs deciding their squad later in the window and if we want a Patrick Roberts type we have to wait and see what happens to him. He is the type worth waiting for but we all remember waiting and getting Pukki and Scepovic. 😥.

14 Jul 2017 01:30:13
Bhoywonder. Congratulations on a very fine post . Too many of our fans were getting their knickers in a twist re our signings before we got Ntcham signed and sealed and now we are relaxing, such a small line between recruiting successfully and panic stations .
The club is been run exceptionally well and we remember the abuse the board got when Murray was spending everyone's money and Celtic were trying to complete and not cheat or break the law .

14 Jul 2017 07:24:03
To me there is a difference Naill bud, the younger fans have been brought up watching the team succeed, The older generation ( pre fergus) remember the low points all too well, My point being that when you have the success its not enough in some fans eyes, as they have never been put through the ringer like the pre fergus days. They want more and more, to spend more etc, Not realising that we are where we are now because of spending within our means, I still wake up every day and thank the lord for fergus mccann.

14 Jul 2017 14:56:03
Bhoywonder

I am somewhere in the middle. Just about to turn 36 and my earliest Celtic memory is the 1989 cup final.

Saw Rangers cheat there way to 9 in a row and remember hating Fergus like 99% of Celtic fans even when we stopped 10.

I agree the club has succeeded off the back of being prudent and spending within their means but Ed will back me in this that PL has been in the press on numerous occasions bumping his gums about our ability to afford 6 million pound signings. He is part of building fans expectations up and then disappointing them.

I am fairly happy to wait to see what happens but if we end up with another Johnny Hayes or Barrie MacKay (squad player) then what was the point in waiting?

{Ed007's Note - Lawwell has said that on a few different occasions over the years.}

14 Jul 2017 15:49:01
Cant disagree with the Lawell statements Niall and Ed, i remember him bumping his gums a few times on the matter, we've just shelled out about 6 mill on ntchem (including fees wages etc) and prob get a few more in on decent fees and wages, But to some its not enough in my view, The past few weeks we were linked with established EPL players and people were saying not good enough past it etc, players that wouldve cost more than the 6 mill pedro went on about, and wouldve enhanced the squad no end. that's the point im trying to make, PPl are so used to the memories that they want more, want us to compete with the big money clubs in champs league when we both know that's not possible bud. I guarentee that if we don't win the treble undefeated next yr some sections of our support will see it as a failure. Can you imagine the older fans reacting like that?