Celtic Banter Archive May 12 2014

12 May 2014 22:54:32
Celtic are needing to go and splash the cash on finnbogasson and snodgrass sell Forster to pay for them sell all the dead wood like kyal boerogter blade muykolo and bleed all our young talent into the team over the coarse of next season like Henderson mgregor watt and twartick! If we got they two in we would be some force in Europe even away from home with that bit of class up front with snoddy and commons behind him! Ano everyone is thinking am nuts buys that's what's needed this year quality over quantity that team isn't far away best back line for years just lacks a touch of class in the final third!

I don't think you're nuts. I'll be hoping, no, almost demanding we sign two players of Snodgrass' or Finnbogason's quality, and then some! Without even needing to sell Forster to fund it!

The guy flat out refused us! Not for me, he can swivel! Playing for Celtic is an honor. I agree about the quality but not from him. There must be a player out there that's just as good but would actually want to sign for us. Ed has it spot on though. We need to raise our wages limit 25 to 30. If we do that we would get a lot better players in the door. I have a feeling we are all going to be very pee'd off at the end of this window. Lenny is going to Brazil on his holiday it's not like we will be able to sign anyone good from the world cup so why are we wasting time scouting it?

Who refused us? Certainly wasn't Finnbogason. Celtic pulled the plug on the deal over £500k in the bank (yet spent the same amount it would've cost to get AF on Balde, Pukki n Boerrigter who managed about 30 starts between them in all competitions). Finnbogason posted YNWA on Twitter the night he was linked with us and repeatedly said he'd listen to ALL offers, something he's reiterated this weekend.

12 May 2014 17:31:12
Don't want to get to hung up on the exact marking, just looking for an idea of how the posters thought about our progress. A manager is ultimately judged on how much he can get out of his squad . The marking system in my head would be along the lines of, 2 for a league win, 2 for making the champions league, 1 for getting though it, 1 mark for each of the cups, 1 for youth development, 1 for conduct of manager and players and 1 for transfer market activities, all things the manager can control . So my 6 would be 2 for league 2 for champ league 1 for conduct and the controversial one a mark for transfers for reasons I stated in the org post ( yes I do think we could and should be shopping in a higher priced market but that is peter lawells department not Neil lennons ).

Progress? None.

Lennon has had one hand tied. The lack of reinvestment p!ssed me off last summer, and we seemed to be split on the subject on here. Well results this season are the only indicator.

That said, no excuses for the cup exits like ours, or at too many times the overall lack of a Cavalier approach against teams who are quite simply not very good.

My verdict is I'd like NL to get one more season but with the sort of backing from the board he should get. If we start operating like a CL club, domestic affairs should take care of themselves. We're in a position now where many actually question our ability to qualify for the CL. Why has this happened?

12 May 2014 14:23:39
Big Peter better not get wind of the Ex Hearts Goalie McDonald being released because he is a half decent keeper and with Big Fraser being picked by the English, would mean a healthy profit if he sells Forster. Hail Hail

12 May 2014 12:23:08
So what do you give this season out of 10 ed, I said last season was a 7.5 to 8 . So this season is a 6 out of 10 at best, to be knocked out the cups by any Scottish team at HOME is unacceptable . We were quite lucky to make the champions league and it showed when we got their . So all in all ( even though it pains me to say so ) we have moved backwards quite considerably and it maybe time for a change of manager . I don't buy the excuses about selling our stars, big Virgil is better than Wilson, johansen is as good as wanyama and we have scored more goals this season so we haven't missed Hooper ( who I don't want back by the way, as my personal opinion is he was lazy and overrated. Think there are mutch better options out their, for the transfer fee and wages involved ) . Worst of all I don't think Neil has give the youngsters a real go ( other than fisher who he was forced to use ) why play Sammy or kayal in the last 7 or 8 games, why not play 3 or 4 youngsters in the games, who gives a sh!t where we end up in the under 21 league .

{Ed007's Note - I wouldn't be that kind Fab, I'd give this season a 4/10 at best. NL kept identifying markers throughout the season (unbeaten runs, 100 points etc) and failed on every single one and things are not going to get any better with him at the helm.}

6/10 for me as well. Winning the league, never mind by 29 points and qualifying for the Champions League will always be pass marks.

Overall report - has the ability however lacks concentration at times, easily distracted and could do better.

I'm with Ed here, the season's not even half marks. A 10/10 season would be a Treble and a CL Last 16 or EL QF campaign. A league title, no domestic cup finals and limping out of Europe without a fight gets a 4/10 max from me!

With Ed07 and Hamiltonbhoy who I think are being generous!

If you were to award points for the following achievements, say win the league 2, win the cup 2, win the diddy cup 2, European Qualification 2 and blooding youngsters 2, that's 10, so fair to say 4 would be about right.

With your scoring points BadBhoy, we can get more points for not winning the league but doing well in the Cups.

Your opinion obviously but I would defo put more emphasis on winning the league and would say not winning the league is the daddy of all fails.

Aye that's right mrs e. 6/10. This coming from previous posts, surprising

Aye DN, I often find it surprising when football fans give pass marks for being crowned Champions of their Country. Shocker, haud the front page.

Definitely Mrs. E, I would place more emphasis on winning the league but this was a points awarding exercise, realistically I should have awarded zero points for winning the league seeing as all we have to do is turnup and it's ours, maybe then I could award points for unbeaten runs, clean sheet records, least goals conceded, qualifying to the Europaleague or knockout stages of the CL

Agree with most posts 6/10 purely for winning league and making the CL. Our cup record is pathetic. Not entirely NL's fault our co-efficiant is garbage, we have doen our bit in many ways. It still gets my blood boiling that countries can gt 3 teams automatically into CL group phase and the league champions of European countries have to qualify. They should never be calling it the CL.

12 May 2014 09:52:01
Ed001, I like today's poll - football related yay!

I hope they do stop flirting and get him signed. We need a couple of players to improve the team this window.

Can we maybe have one tomorrow about Samaras - the opinion about are the Club right to let him go or should he stay?

{Ed001's Note - I thought you might approve Mrs E, I did make a special effort for you to make it football related. I will add the Samaras question to the list and try and remember to use it tomorrow rather than when I get down that far!}

11 May 2014 23:46:56
Lennon must go. Sooner the better. Simple

Who do you suggest replaces him DN30? Surely it has to be a manager with good Euro experience.

Hail Hail

I know, who does he think he is? Winning the league? Over a hundred goals? I'm so sick of this! He should be sacked immediately haha, na I agree we need a change. But with the amount of players leaving the club's in an uproar coming up to the cl qualifier. I'm just worried that changing the manager as well as all these players will leave us with no cl place.

Timing has never been Celtic's forte; the club does need a jolt in every sense as we have underachieved in trophies and in the calibre of players signed, but with Celtic Park out of commission, we will be taking a gamble if major changes are afoot?
The terrific league run did produce some very good football - which was well overdue with the players and resources at our disposal compared to the rest of the SPL and we did win the title in style but we fell short in every other competition.

I thought Mjallby leaving was an indication that the management team would be dispersed and I am excited about the prospect of a new manager and especially a better quality of player being attracted to Celtic Park.
Therefore we have to appoint a man with a very good pedigree and reputation, not only to bring in class, but to improve the players we have.
A better CL/Euro campaign and Cup runs are imperative to keep ticket sales/attendances up and build moral and regain our domestic dominance.

If Neil Lennon does leave? I wish to thank him for all his efforts in bringing some success to the club and I am sure the highs and lows and huge expectations of a Celtic manager will stand him in good stead for any job.
He will also never have to put up with the sectarian garbage, assaults, threats and utter hatred he has endured during his time in Glasgow.
I have never known any previous Celtic manager that has suffered this atrocity and hope it never happens again - but I won't hold my breath.

JJ

Timing has never been Celtic's forte; the club does need a jolt in every sense as we have underachieved in trophies and in the calibre of players signed, but with Celtic Park out of commission, we will be taking a gamble if major changes are afoot?
The terrific league run did produce some very good football - which was well overdue with the players and resources at our disposal compared to the rest of the SPL and we did win the title in style but we fell short in every other competition.

I thought Mjallby leaving was an indication that the management team would be dispersed and I am excited about the prospect of a new manager and especially a better quality of player being attracted to Celtic Park.
Therefore we have to appoint a man with a very good pedigree and reputation, not only to bring in class, but to improve the players we have.
A better CL/Euro campaign and Cup runs are imperative to keep ticket sales/attendances up and build moral and regain our domestic dominance.

If Neil Lennon does leave? I wish to thank him for all his efforts in bringing some success to the club and I am sure the highs and lows and huge expectations of a Celtic manager will stand him in good stead for any job.
He will also never have to put up with the sectarian garbage, assaults, threats and utter hatred he has endured during his time in Glasgow.
I have never known any previous Celtic manager that has suffered this atrocity and hope it never happens again - but I won't hold my breath.

JJ