Celtic Banter Archive March 12 2016

 

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12 Mar 2016 20:04:53
Good team display today happy Charlie is back in the side coulda made it easier for ourselves by taken our chances at 2 0 but can't complain so 9 games left if we win our game in hand 6 wins and 2 draws would be enough but obviously would rather win em all.

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12 Mar 2016 21:44:42
Good to have paddy back as a believer . I was well pleased with the performance today but we should have got 1 or 2 more . Penalty was the softest decision I have ever seen, but I can't say I was surprised . I was well pleased with Big Charlie and GMS . In addition I think McGregor is improving and becoming a very good player.

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12 Mar 2016 22:24:47
I'm always a believer oldbhoy I just always want better gms did surprise me he didn't give the ball away as much as he has done lately hope he keeps his game up McGregor too but we have to keep this 11 going maybe 1 change would be ok but no more than that.

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12 Mar 2016 23:10:58
Before the match I was saying I would have played Roberts ahead of McGregor but glad to be proved wrong.

In relation to McGregor, I was impressed with his ball control and footwork in the lead up to his goal.

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12 Mar 2016 23:58:11
What impresses me with McGregor is he's 2 footed , a rarity in the modern game. Lubo was the master of two footetness (theres a word for you) remember him swinging corners in with his right then going over to the other side and swinging them in with his left..Genius.

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13 Mar 2016 00:21:37
@stevie i think shaun maloney is as well.

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13 Mar 2016 15:30:40
I think mcgregor could be a natural successor to kris commons.

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14 Mar 2016 18:45:12
Don't label anyone as a natural replacement to anyone, it puts unnecessary and unnatural pressure on a youngster . Let C Mc Gregor become a good mature C Mc Gregor.

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12 Mar 2016 19:16:22
OOftt Costa will be in bother for that

What a nutter! Surely the biggest nutter in the EPL?

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12 Mar 2016 19:36:33
Nah Jamiebhoy I love Costa, had £50 on him getting a red card law of averages he was due one so took a wee punt lol and for the icing on the cake Messi misses ANOTHER penalty, so my theme tune tonight is Abba's MONEY MONEY MONEY.

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12 Mar 2016 19:13:24
Not his biggest fan but I'm starting to like mulgrew back at cb hated seeing his name on the team sheet but last 2 games I've been happy to see it. gms has been playing so much better recently 2 more assist's today was a good performance today never in doubt soft penalty mind you.

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12 Mar 2016 19:18:51
I think the Roberts signing might have given GMS the kick up the backside he needed.

As for Mulgrew I think I pretty much feel the same but wouldn't grumble seeing him playing during the run in.

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12 Mar 2016 19:24:43
Agreed. GMS played really well today. His part in the first goal, not just the cross, shouldn't be overlooked.

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12 Mar 2016 20:01:00
Mulgrew has had two consecutive solid displays and I think Lustig has also played better with no Boyata or Ambrose at the back.
GMS is having a better time lately, with a wee run in the side and he has created a lot, but he cannot seem to last 90 minutes.
On the other hand, Brown, Bitton and Commons are still well below par and it's not as if we don't have other options if they are carrying knocks or just off form.

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12 Mar 2016 20:12:59
I'm sure I read a while back that GMS is one of the hardest workers in the team and runs about 3Km more than Commons in a game.

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12 Mar 2016 20:22:20
Brown and commons have been really bad I don't get why there still getting a game either Bitton is just back from injury so he at least has that for today.

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12 Mar 2016 20:36:01
Same as commons he's been out for a while keep him in the team trust me he'll come good and will also be the slayer of sevco.

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12 Mar 2016 21:42:43
I was in the stand and if you count coffee and a piss I probably ran more than Commons today.

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12 Mar 2016 21:49:20
I think Brown and Commons have both let their form slip. I think Brown will return to best form before the end of season. Commons Celtic career may be ending . I think we have many suitable replacements.

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14 Mar 2016 18:48:54
Mulgrew is a fantastic centre back when he is a free back, when opponents are playing just one up front . Mulgrew has the foresight, confidence and ability to read the game to close down danger before danger arises .
Different situation when he is up against either a very speedy or a bursting striker.

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12 Mar 2016 18:07:07
Thinking about beavs statement about brown and top 15 thought about it and here's my top 20 of which I think brown fits into. from 1970 onwards
Roy aitken
Tommy burns
Scott brown
John collins
George connelly
Di canio
Ronnie glavin
Paul hartley
Paul lambert
Neil lennon
Murdo mcleod
Paul mcstay
Lobo moravcic
Stevie murray
Shunsuke nakamura
Phil odonnel
Stylian petrov
Victor wanyama
Morton weighorst
Finally samaras when he could be arsed.1970 is when I started going regular with my dad. ( God rest his soul)

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12 Mar 2016 18:24:33
Replied down the page buddy. was going for centre mids, but if u add naka thommo lubo then he's even further down.

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12 Mar 2016 19:12:08
From 1970 onwards you are having a laugh. There is no way you are a Celtic fan if that is your list and you have been watching Celtic since 1970.

Missing our greatest ever player Jimmy Johnstone for starters and probably our second or third best Kenny Dalglish. You are forgetting some of the Lions still played in the 70s as well:

Danny McGrain
Davie Hay
Charlie Nicholas
Brian McLair
Frank McAvennie
Bobby Lennox
Bobby Murdoch
Bertie Auld
Dixie Deans
Billy McNeil
Chris Sutton
Lou Macari
Pat Crerand
van Hoijdonk
Jorge Cadete
Paul Eliott
Alan Thompson

And you have guys like Morten Weighorst, Paul Hartley, Tommy Burns (great Celtic man but not one of our best players) , Neil Lennon, Phil O'Donnell, etc.

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12 Mar 2016 19:33:16
none of you watch alfie conn or kenny dalglish play in midfield and anyone who includes ronnie glavin needs his head looked at.

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12 Mar 2016 19:55:13
Conn had some great games for us but was coming to the end of his productive career loads of injuries he never played that many games over the two seasons with us and went downwards after it . imo glavin would get in this team no problem but that's my opinion and memory might be remembering him as better but his scoring record was good.

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12 Mar 2016 19:36:13
I was talking my fav midfielders. (l left lions out of it as they were our greatest team and only mcstay could rival murdoch auld nobody on my list or any others could lace their boots) next time read the posts and don't just jump in.

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12 Mar 2016 20:56:19
Aye rab Mac read a bit further down mate! The discussion was about centre mids! Calm down pal lol.

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12 Mar 2016 23:13:31
Apologies, as I never saw the earlier post and thought it was just 20 best Celts since 1970. Feel like a tit now lol.

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13 Mar 2016 06:56:06
Brown better than lambert and mcstay, Jesus wept, you are joking right?

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13 Mar 2016 09:43:30
it's called alphabetical order. you doing rab mac? precious.

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12 Mar 2016 17:29:41
Dont usually praise stewards bcoz they normally jobsworths but respect to the thistle steward i told him my wee boys seat was broken and the guy very quickly moved us to the hospitality section and instead of a plastic seat me n the wee man were given 2 padded seats brilliant the man went out his way to do that so well done thistle and yir stewards.

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12 Mar 2016 17:50:15
Well played that Steward. Pity my seat wasn't cracked today!

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12 Mar 2016 17:04:44
huvin forrest on the bench is a total disgrace too allan and christe and how bad is scot brown?

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12 Mar 2016 19:07:18
I honestly asked did Scott Brown get taken off at half time then he got booked he's been terrible since he grow his hair lol.

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12 Mar 2016 23:16:49
He has been poor for the majority of the season and in recent weeks he has angered me with his lack of fight and application. Since Ronnie had clear the air talks he has improved but is still poor. If he does not sort it soon I would offload in summer if someone is willing to buy.

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12 Mar 2016 16:44:17
Is it just me or does anyone else agree browns time is coming to an end with us, can't fault the boys commitment but again today he was largely anonymous and picked up a stupid booking with his daft kick after he fouled the boy he's had a poor season also.

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12 Mar 2016 16:56:38
Totally agree bud! He was terrible today. I've never been a massive fan of brown if I'm going to be honest. his passing for a professional footballer, never mind being Celtic and Scotland captain is shocking! Simple 5 or 10 yard passes constantly going to the opposition or out the park, and he's constantly caught out of position leading to him giving away fouls all over the place! I know people will come on and defend him and that's there right. but if u watch a game closely, you will see how many times he gives away possession! It's actually scary how many times he does it! When I think of all the centre midfielders we've had, he wouldn't even get in the top 15!

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12 Mar 2016 17:19:00
I like many others like the boy but feel when he's in the team he's holding back others namely armstrong, rogic i know its down to rd to sort it out so i would think a lot more off him if he were to be strong enough and drop brown to bench.

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12 Mar 2016 17:25:13
Was going to post earlier after the game . Brown looked like a man who knows he's at the end of career when he handed his jersey to crowd. beav how many in the last 20 year would get Into top 15.

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12 Mar 2016 17:34:00
I have to agree with you guys. He seems to be getting pushed around out there. In my opinion, it was his physical presence in midfield that made him integral to the team. I haven't seen that from him in a while. Who do you all think would replace him in his role? Should Armstrong be given a chance to play centrally? Scott Allan? Hail hail!

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12 Mar 2016 17:47:04
I think long term it could be Armstongs best position! He's got a little bit of everything. Ronny never played him once there, he's been on the left or behind the striker! He's never a wide left player and don't think he's a no 10 either! He doesn't score enough to play there, I think his energy is more suited to play deeper. I think long term you could play Armstong and Henderson as the 2.

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12 Mar 2016 18:21:20
DRB just feel he's struggled for a while. I've had this discussion with a few mates in the past, and some of there thoughts were he drives the team forward and gets in people's faces! Which for me isn't the 1st 2nd or 3rd quality i look for in a footballer! But he doesn't even do that now! Granted he's Been out injured but I just feel he's like a man short! And my 15 are mcstay, burns, Macleod, grant, Collins, lambert, Lennon, petrov, Ledley, wanyama, ki, kayal, bitton, Hartley, robson! The last 2 if u remember came in and played well together to win us the league when brown was out! All much better football players than brown IMO.

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12 Mar 2016 18:53:56
Brown has always been an angry man in a football strip, he has contributed to most of his own injuries and suspensions through his own stupidity. Think about it, if he was any good he would have been sold years ago, given our recent financial strategy .

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12 Mar 2016 19:15:02
Got to disagree folks get SB 100% fit and he is fab

Not been 100% in RDs tenure IMO even when he limped out right @ the start of RD

RD always brings him back to early because of impact he makes and that was acknowledged in commentary

He be needed in the run in more than most!

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12 Mar 2016 19:29:15
I think it's just age.

Much like a Striker who's main asset is their pace, when they age and start to lose that, they aren't nearly as effective.

Brown has never been the best passer, the most creative etc etc but he's been the drive and energy behind our best teams/ performances of the last 5/ 6 years.

Injuries and age have caught up and, it seems, like his engine/ energy aren't what they used to be. Without that, he is limited in his effectiveness.

Hopefully it's a fitness thing but it's more than likely a combination of age and injuries - and if so, it's only going to get worse.

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12 Mar 2016 19:56:30
Chasaboy so basically your saying that because he wasnt sold he is in your eyes $hite? Rofl.

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12 Mar 2016 21:01:37
DN. Never thought he is as good as some folk seem to think. But if he was that good someone would have been interested and the way our club operate he would have been sold. My main point is that he has never been able to control his anger mainly to his detriment.

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12 Mar 2016 22:35:50
Chasaboy he is in his 30s now. Natural decline stage in majority of footballers, so obviously not as good as previous seasons. He has never been a fancy player, just simple football and that's what he was good at.

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12 Mar 2016 23:18:59
I have came full circle on Brown for the second time. I thought he was a good player when at Hibs but was poor when he came to us. Then since Lennon took charge he had gradually got better, with last season being his finest as a Celtic player. However, this season he has become poor again, not sure what is going on with him.

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13 Mar 2016 23:02:50
To say that Brown's career at Celtic is coming to an end is an example of the terrible sick minds that follow Celtic . I am sure S Brown himself, would be the first to admit his form since returning from injury has not been good . Surely a player who has been one of our best seven seasons out of eight since he joined us, is entitled like almost every other player to have a dip in form . Some of us are so demanding that we will chase all the middling players out of the club . Wise up footballers are humans, not machines, they are entitled to spells when they are off form.

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12 Mar 2016 15:07:05
I am not a fan of the manager but have decided to put that to the side and look on positives
Job done today.
We dominated the game and should have been more comfortable by the end
But if I had been offered that result before kick off I would have taken it.
Well done bhoys now let's march on to the trophies.

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12 Mar 2016 14:34:31
Why does GMS do michael jackson dancing when he's interviewed? . that MJ kick is ah fekn lethal weapon. itl b class if he wis bn interviewed n jus moonwalked oot questions 😂😂😂 . sorry ed n bhoys tooooo much frosty jack

HH

Chris1888.

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12 Mar 2016 14:30:07
As much as I have slated Mulgrew he had a good game today well done Charlie thought the penalty was a bit light but apart from that the Ref had a decent game l thought RD got the game plan right to.

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12 Mar 2016 15:03:04
I've said before and I'll say it again, big mulgrew is our best centre half without a doubt! Now I know that's not to hard with some of the defenders we've got lol. just feel the big man is calm on the ball, can make a pass and chip in with a goal to! Keep him and Erick at centre half for the run in and I think the double will be ours! And big mulgrew knows what Celtic are all about and that for me is a big plus!

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12 Mar 2016 15:04:55
softest pen ever witnessed in my opinion if that's the standard now we will have 10+ pens per game.

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12 Mar 2016 15:12:36
Mulgrew big problem is his lack of pace.
With how far up our full backs play he gets exposed and good teams will punish it.

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12 Mar 2016 15:29:35
My only gripe with Mulgrew and Sviatchenko at CB are neither of them have pace. However, I would prefer a lack of pace to Boyata lol.

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12 Mar 2016 15:49:50
I agree about the lack of pace. He would be better in a back 3 for me, ideally as a sweeper! Even playing the left of a 3 with someone covering behind him. He's been caught out a few times in Europe in Europe in a back 4. I think it was away to Zagreb or Legia he was to blame for 3 goals!

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12 Mar 2016 16:31:06
Agree about his pace. but ambrose and boyata are both quicker than him and the 2 of them are woeful! No point having pace if u can't tackle or pass! Mulgrew and Erick from here on in for me! Keep a settled back line for these last 10 11 games.

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12 Mar 2016 19:04:17
You're right about pace, some great Centre halfs weren't the quickest - Bobby Moore, Koeman, Beckenbauer spring to mind, even big Billy and George Connelly, the difference is Mulgrew doesn't read the game that well, his biggest asset is passing. Also Ronny plays a high line, the centre halfs play on the halfway line so if you don't have pace then you're fecked. Boyata and Ambrose shouldn't even be used as examples bacause they are the 2 softest/ nicest central defenders I've seen in a Celtic jersey!

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12 Mar 2016 22:00:20
Delphic is right, the reason some players become centre halves is because they are not the quickest . If the team attacks as a team and defends as a team and if the centre half can read the game well then the lack of pace won't be found out . For almost the whole game today, because P T wern't exactly pressurising him big Charlie looked immaculately.

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12 Mar 2016 23:21:58
@Old Bhoy - I hear what you are saying and in some respects you are correct. However, the system we play requires at least one CB to have pace as we often get hit on the counter with only the 2 CBs at the back. If the attacker has pace then we are in real trouble.

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12 Mar 2016 23:56:10
Rabmac, we are supposed to have a centre midfielder back covering as well. Now I suppose if the opposition play it brilliantly we could be caught out, but even with pacey centre halves, we will be caught out if the centre halves haven't got top class positional sense . Mulgrew might have that, I watched him carefully today and he was sometimes moving towards were the ball was kicked towards, a split second before it was kicked.

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13 Mar 2016 07:21:11
I know last season Bitton was often sitting in front of the CBs and even saw him slot in to 3 man back 3 at times. However, that does not seem to be happening this season. Also last season we had VVD and Denayer who are both quick and excellent defenders, which covered a multitude of sins in my opinion.

Back to Bitton, not sure why he is not performing this role this season. The cynic is me says Lawwell has told Deila that Bitton needs more goals to bump up his price for when he gets sold in the summer. However, I accept this may not be the case and it may be because Ronnie has changed his tactics slightly or he is having to cover for Brown, who has been poor.

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13 Mar 2016 23:48:03
Cynically u surprise me Rabmac as I always had u down as one of our intelligent posters, but I suppose reading as much rubbish as we do on here, it can't be a surprise if a good man makes a mistake .
Rabmac could u list out the names of top Celtic players that Mr Lawwell has sold within the last five years, that hadn't publicly demanded a move from Celtic .
Do u think it is good for club morale to hold on to players who are demanding a move . I must say Rabmac, u disappointed me.

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12 Mar 2016 14:29:48
Not exactly a vintage performance but I don't think the pitch helped us in that respect.

Anyway, the important thing was to get 3 points to stretch our lead to 4 and put the pressure on Aberdeen to get result this afternoon.

We are definitely in the driving seat as we can afford to lose a game and still win the league. Plus the next match between Celtic and Aberdeen is at Celtic Park.

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12 Mar 2016 16:43:49
The pitch was an absolute disgrace. Completely unfit to host a Premiership game.

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12 Mar 2016 22:08:37
With pitches like that is it any wonder the English laugh at our football.
I think our manager who is so often faulted by many who probably don't know much, got his team selection and formation correct . Roberts is no doubt the best player to run with the ball at his feet in Scotland just now, but would playing on the beach have not negated his ability .
We played mostly through the centre on the better surface .

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12 Mar 2016
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12 Mar 2016 08:29:31
Why is beating Rangers huge for this club?

Honestly, RD needs to right down what he wants to say, read it over and have it proof read and confirmed that it's just an absolute joke of a statement.

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12 Mar 2016 08:38:31
Semi final?

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12 Mar 2016 08:57:07
Against a team from lower league, so again why is it huge.

It's huge for RD not the club.

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12 Mar 2016 09:43:14
Every cup game is huge.

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12 Mar 2016 10:13:32
Sad times if a semi final isn't huge for a foitball club. Might as well just close up shop.

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12 Mar 2016 11:06:21
Kev T i agree. Last time we played them, for me it was just a run of the mill cup tie in which we were drawn against a second tier team.

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12 Mar 2016 16:40:19
So why is it not huge?
its a semi final .!
And. if we don't win it, it's a big a bid deal no matter who it's against from "the lower league" like you say lol
Twist it how you like, all semi finals are huge.

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12 Mar 2016 22:18:47
The SMSM are doing their damnest to make this a big game . We have bigger and more difficult games in the SPL against Hearts and Aberdeen . In fact all our nine SPL games could be more important . Sky on today about the Old Firm Game
Because the fans of Rangers 2012 can't wait to see how their new team, with the help of referee, can measure up against us . We will be aroused into combating them and hopefully showing them like last season.

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12 Mar 2016 08:20:19
Guys just read an article saying we have 17 midfielders and another 5 on loan? What is that about? Completely bonkers? If it's right? So how much wages is all that going to be when we can only play 4 at a time? Madness waste of money? Can't be any other teams of our budget that has 22 midfielders on books? Are we going for the world record? Bonkers.

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12 Mar 2016 09:33:41
Which indicates to me that the board are making the signings.

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12 Mar 2016 10:21:30
Wouldn't be so bad if we had a few that were wingers or a proper CDM! I agree with Rab.

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12 Mar 2016 11:40:33
I have heard this 17 midfielders story mentioned loads recently but had never bothered to verify if it where true or not.

Anyway it turns out it is a load of boXXocks. Just went through the list of first team players and first team players out on loan and this is what I found.

CM
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Nir Bitton
Scott Brown
Stuart Armstrong
Stefan Johansen
Callum McGregor
Liam Henderson (loan)

No 10
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Ryan Christie
Scott Allan
Tom Rogic
Kris Commons

It would appear that we actually only have 10 CMs (still way too many in my opinion) , so would appear the media have over estimated by 12 players if you include those out on loan. Yes we have some other players in the squad who can play CM or No 10 but that is not the position they normally play, so I have not included them. You may also notice that some of the players can play CM and No 10 but I put them in the position I think they are best at.

Yes there are more CM at our club but they are not listed as first team players.

To conclude, the media are talking pish as usual. What their motive is anyone's guess but I have my suspicions.

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12 Mar 2016 11:55:27
I should have added our Wingers as well, just in case the media where including that in their stat.

wingers
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Boerrigter
GMS
FOrrest
Roberts
Nesbitt (loan)

So even when you include our wingers, the number quoted is still 8 more than the actual figure.

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12 Mar 2016 12:51:37
Should have been 7 before someone corrects my arithmetic. :P.

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12 Mar 2016 22:23:20
It is difficult to have a reasonable discussion on here when we have quotes from the SMSM, it would be better if poster did a little research before coming up with foolish exaggerated statements showing our club in the negative.

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13 Mar 2016 07:39:45
It is difficult on the majority of forums lol, most people prefer factoids over facts and don't seem to like when you disprove their factoids by using facts.

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13 Mar 2016 23:51:20
Yes Rabmac Some posters on here are as quick to put the boot into R D and Lawwell as the SMSM, they like the SMSM don't worry about a untruth taking the place of a truth.

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