Celtic Banter Archive August 12 2020

12 Aug 2020 17:59:34
GIRUY Gordon Smith. Another sevconian putting his bit in that celtic should be punished lol. The club has done nothing wrong in both Griffiths and Bolongoli.

Griffiths wasn't even in squad and kept away from rest of team minute his party was exposed.

Bolongoli never said anything to anyone at club about going to Spain and only reason he was in squad for game was because he decepted club into leading them to believe he was eligible to play. At what point is this clubs fault? The only person at fault is bolongoli.

Also all bets are off it was a sevconian who took the photo in hope we would be docked points. Reason this will be the case is anyone with a genuine concern about CV would of contacted club to express concern and prevent situation.

12 Aug 2020 18:27:00
It’s 100% bolingoli’s fault, absolutely no question but what I would like the club to do now is demand every one of the players passports therefor denying any reoccurrence, that said surely after this no player in the squad would be as stupid to do the same thing.

12 Aug 2020 18:27:59
They're forming a blue-queue phil; BFKB, The Daily Rag, Smith and others, trying to manoeuvre the situation into an SPFL intervention.
I expect nothing else from these charlatans and hypocrites; but I am absolutely raging with Boli for leaving us wide open to this posse.
Get him out the door, into a fast-black, onto a plane and let him isolate far, far away from Paradise.

12 Aug 2020 18:33:43
they seem to forget about sending half a squad out without being tested haha. yes their CLUB let players take to the field without testing them.

12 Aug 2020 18:48:43
F? Them . but the bottom line is our player our responsibility. . i wouldn't put up an argument if killie and st Mirren where awarded 3_0 victory and 3 points as a punishment to us .

12 Aug 2020 19:12:58
Deep river bhoy away you go! You cannot punish club for carrying out all procedures by the book and after Aberdeen players night out, strongly emphasising the importance of adhering to all the rules set out.

What else can club do? Hire a fleet of babysitters to watch over each player on their days off?

The club done everything they could and cannot be held accountable for bolongoli lies.

12 Aug 2020 19:23:56
Controversially, i think this could be the rocket fuel ( siege mentality effect) that we need to drive forward as the 10iar won't be delivered by the board flexing their financial muscle. Unless mistaken l, whatever way you cut it, we have created the cash pile in direct and indirect ways. Yes, every so often players perform beyond expectations like KT and dembele etc, but we provide the seed capital for investment and so CFC PLC failure to invest ( contrary to what fans would do) is a little difficult to justify, at least in part

That said, CFC now have no shortage of reasons to get physical and get serious and drive us on to 10iar.

12 Aug 2020 19:24:09
deep river bhoy the club are just as outraged as everybody. what is suppose to happen peter and lenny phone everybody after training. hi boli its peter lawell here just phoning to make sure you are home now don't be a naught bhoy and go out. if i was to go to Spain then go into my work without saying should my work be punished.

12 Aug 2020 19:40:27
UI, it is a culture thing, where there is respect it simply wouldn't happen

Let's have a pool of players that respect the jersey, respect us, and respect their fellow colleagues and pay masters

We bought him
He is our player
He tarnished the clubs reputation but he didn't sign himself did he?

Thus, the club is partly responsible. there is no escaping that.

He concluded that what he chose to do, no matter the peril he put us in, was a risk worth taking

That tells me that in 18 months he hasn't bought in to a respectful culture. maybe we don't have one or one that is rock solid

Who knows.

12 Aug 2020 19:56:09
All said and done IMO Something needs put in place for any future breaches of the rules by any one perhaps a ban on the player or players for a lengthy time to points deduction for clubs that know of the breach and don't deal with it. Not sure what rules to have but if nothing is put in place the game is in serious danger of ending sooner rather than later.

12 Aug 2020 20:34:17
Phil ui. corporate responsibility.

12 Aug 2020 20:55:51
He never said Celtic should be punished Phil.

12 Aug 2020 21:03:41
Alex Ferguson would know.

12 Aug 2020 21:05:01
Phil you're talking nonsense I'm afraid

Deep river boy beat me to it

He is our player
He is our choice to have as a player
He is there to be coached and influenced to make top class decisions

Whilst he wronged the club, we cannot find a walk around to avoid criticism

CFC have apologised unreservedly
CFC feel that reputational damage has been done

Never did CFC say " we cannot babysit the fella 24/ 7"

Your sentiment is flawed.

12 Aug 2020 22:33:06
The SPFL and SFA should have set a punishment level prior to the clubs coming back, surely they can't start creating a new punishment system because two clubs have failed the game. All the players should be find and suspended by there clubs and sent out to help the care system etc.

13 Aug 2020 02:05:22
They can't dock points unless its in the rules, they need to set a rule in place now, which in hindsight should've been set before a ball was kicked. Get it set now and punish players or clubs accordingly. If they don't then this will keep happening.

13 Aug 2020 07:03:16
so say we are docked the 3 points and its those 3 points that miss us out in the league this year. so 10 year of hard work by every one and the people who have been on the full 10 year journey have missed out on something they have worked on for a full 10 years and all the fans who have supported Celtic through there full life and waited for a moment like this miss out on it because boli went to Spain for a day without telling any body. away you lot go. the player should be hit hard and i mean hard in the pocket and it should be donated to charities.

13 Aug 2020 08:44:21
Lubomir perhaps next time read post before commenting. I never said CFC said anything about babysitting a player, I said it myself as a sarcastic response.

Sentiment is not flawed. Club done everything they could and legally could not do anymore. What else could they do? Confiscate his passport and then leave themselves open to legal disputes?

13 Aug 2020 10:04:45
Phil

Okay

You sound like a legal powerhouse so I'll quit while I'm ahead, I've already lapped you right enough

Do you watch suits?

12 Aug 2020 14:39:11
I see Chris Julien being linked with Napoli.
Hypothetical question if big offers come in for Julien and Ajer would you take them, and spend the profit on 3 or four other CDs.

12 Aug 2020 15:41:24
No it takes us months to complete 1 transfer. 3/ 4 won't be in the door until season 2025.

12 Aug 2020 15:45:21
Good question jonace. I've got no doubts we need another CB. But to those who are saying Ajer and Jullien (current champions) aren't good enough, what would you value them at? And how much of that do you actually think we would spend on replacements? People wanting shot of Ajer but I've also seen him valued at 20m 🤣. We really are fickle.

Personally i'd want to make a few million on Jullien but Ajer I would want around 20m for. Even then I'd feel a big side from a big league would be getting a bargain. Top young centre half.

12 Aug 2020 16:26:07
I wouldn't sell both. I would prefer to keep Ajer and sell Jullien if we had to sell one. Ajer shows real passion for the Jersey and would be my top pick for captain when broony hangs up his boots.

12 Aug 2020 16:36:10
would happily see both move on. would imagine we will get a decent fee for Ajer. Would cut our lossed with julian. he steps up when in a 3 for the big games but gets thrown about when a physical striker is nearby.

12 Aug 2020 16:53:32
How much would you want for Ajer DK? And which CB aged 22 or under, that's won titles, has European experience, is a title winner and has captained a senior side do you think we could attract?

12 Aug 2020 17:08:27
There was a time last season where most people on here were touting Ajer as a hot-property that we could get £15-20m and speculation of him leaving for a top European club.
Maybe his head was turned or his changing agent was unsettling? However, he is still one of our best players, who as I said before - needs an experienced proper centre half to complete his transition from the talented ball-carrying midfield player to natural defender.
He is only 22 and we should be building a defense around him.

12 Aug 2020 17:32:44
*I was meant to mention that he was a full international instead of winning titles twice.

12 Aug 2020 17:50:03
think we could easily get North of £15m for him. I much prefer Ajer to julian and he would be the one id build my defence around however i understand that the chances are he will eventually want to move on so why not part ways now while clubs are interested.

12 Aug 2020 18:14:55
That is an argument I can get my head around to be fair regarding the best time to sell a player. Would rather have a '15m' centre back on the park though than a negative net spend.

12 Aug 2020 19:34:17
Jim Tim

Ajer is NOT a top centre half
He shouldn't even be a centre half

What is it that he does exactly that makes you think he is a top class centre half?

I like how he steps out
I like his versatility
His age is a bonus
His experience is a bonus

But if you consider tackling heading, positional sense, decision making. I'm sorry but I don't know what you are seeing

Every time he is properly tested he is found wanting. slight embellishment there but he is not a centre half

I think he would be a decent deep lying midfielder . of someone wanted to pay 10m for him I'd be looking at it . at 20m you'd buy the taxi .

Weirdly values doesn't mean much these days anyway . there is so much money and people mad enough to pay it but if they are all doing the same thing ( an internal market) then they are all at equilibrium and so players have mil value in reality.

We are not part of that big 4 league internal market and so we get the benefit of others eagerness and silliness.

12 Aug 2020 19:35:53
Ridiculous comments on here. Jullien was class for us last season and Ajer is a good young defender. One bad game and the panic merchants selling the spine of our team.

12 Aug 2020 23:24:38
Jullien over Ajer every day of the week for me.

13 Aug 2020 12:40:24
I said he was a top young centre half, Lubo. He's not the finished article but he's got the capacity to improve so much. I'll ask again; which CB aged 22 or under, that's won titles, has European experience, is a full international and has captained a senior side do you think we could attract for the same money?

12 Aug 2020 13:31:41
Cracker from lenny when asked if ajeti was in Glasgow answer" don't know but maybe the abominable snowman might be "😅.

12 Aug 2020 11:43:53
Bolingoli / Icarus. both became undone by flying too close to the sun.

12 Aug 2020 12:28:40
That's Daedalus in the water.

12 Aug 2020 08:23:18
Scottish football's on a yellow card my cash is on griff to get us a red. hope am wrong tho.

12 Aug 2020 01:09:55
Would we all be saying to sack him if it was Eddie who had went to Spain?

12 Aug 2020 01:54:44
Yes forgetting all the outside influences and consequences this guy has totally disrespected the club teammates and fans once you cross that line it’s game over no matter who you are.

12 Aug 2020 02:14:38
Yes .

12 Aug 2020 06:25:46
Yes, doesn't matter who it is he has let everyone down. Get him tae f@#£.

12 Aug 2020 07:13:21
No chance. The fact he's a donkey makes it easier to say sack him.

12 Aug 2020 07:15:32
Unfortunately, yes I would. When a player jeopardizes the health of other club employees. Runs the risk of punishments of possible points deductions, longer bans on reattendance to football games. Risking our chance at 10-in-a-row, possibly risking us having to forfeit our European games due to the inability to play games. I wouldn't want them anywhere near the club. Boli put all this at risk the implications of any of these would have been drastic and for that reason, him or any player that took those actions should be punished.

12 Aug 2020 07:20:01
YES. almost 50,000 dead. nurses doctors grans grandas and this selfish clown thinks it ok to potentially infect his teammates and their families.

12 Aug 2020 07:34:17
Anyone who breaches the C.V. regs should be sacked immediately no matter who they are.

12 Aug 2020 07:50:37
100%, any player who goes against the clubs rules, government rules they way bolingoli did should be sacked. Still can’t fathom how selfish a person can be. Bolingoli was warned, he’d have also been told on returning to Glasgow about self isolation etc so there’s absolutely no excuses.

12 Aug 2020 08:22:20
I'd be even more disappointed if it was Eddy; but if he did the very same (apparently to talk to a club) , there can be absolutely no defense and he would have to go - in disgrace.
It's a total breach of club rules and he has even broken the law. Considering the extreme danger and fear surrounding this virus; any lapse in careful consideration or safety is criminal and I include Griffiths in this as well - if he has committed similar indiscretion.

12 Aug 2020 08:57:58
KOK - Yes but then again, Eddie is not a selfish brat.
Any player or manager should be sacked on the spot.

12 Aug 2020 09:48:09
Bigbubs he should have went to Blackpool with the other donkeys.

12 Aug 2020 11:07:00
Ged I'd play one of them at LB before Boli 😂.

12 Aug 2020 11:10:29
It's fascinating the way people's minds have been conditioned by this whole shenanigan. The lack of critical thought is alarming. I wonder what they could get the majority of the population to do next at the drop of a hat. Going against what the club have asked him to do, fair enough, a heavy fine. Bur think about it from a moral perspective - I've seen people suggest we sign scumbags like Joey Barton, totally forgive people like Griffiths or Tonev - yet this kid hops on a plane and should be sacked? Ask yourselves this: has he actually endangered his team any more than if he had of went anywhere in the UK? Bearingin mind the UK is recording record daily cases in over two months. People need to question why our society is being flipped upside down and if the numbers, compared to other viruses we encounter regularly, really warrant the narrative of WTF is going on right now.

12 Aug 2020 12:01:56
Robroy nearly 50k dead, mate you are incorrect.

Most governments are revising their “death” rates as they all lied / falsified death rates.

C.V. has a 99.6% survival rate and a mean death age of 79.

There is no pandemic.

We have been asked to wear masks if fit but not if we have asthma or breathing issues, so that would then suggest masks do inhibit oxygen intake therefore do present a risk.

12 Aug 2020 14:35:48
Jim tim they were all telt not to leave Glasgow. Spain is bootin the arse out of it.

12 Aug 2020 14:58:32
Told by who? The club? Like i said if that's the case then he deserves a fine. If he's commited such an atrocity the way some folk are going on then we'll see what legal/ penal punishment he suffers. My guess is none - because he hasn't. If going abroad was that bad then he wouldn't have been able to get on a plane in the first place - something that if this virus is so serious should have been the law five months or so ago, instead of flights streaming into the country 24/ 7 from Asia. This quarantine is just the next psyop/ experiment being carried out. He's been tested TWICE and doesn't have C. V. So why has our game really been postponed? He's been made an example of, because he's a high profile individual under the spot light, which is unfortunate for us as a club. He should be sold because he's not a left back and not a good enough wide man, not sacked because of what he's done. I wonder how many other people on that flight have been out the house and wherever they've been has not been shut down.

12 Aug 2020 15:27:05
You took the words out of my mouth JimTim.
Folk won't realize what's going on till it's too late unfortunately, as usual.

12 Aug 2020 16:56:22
I've almost given up on us as a species islogreen. Everything that seperates us from cattle seems to be out the window right now.