Celtic Banter Archive September 11 2013

 

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11 Sep 2013 21:21:59
Post from a investment wizard on the other site! Comedy, just pure comedy lol


Not a rumour, but just on tv. Sports Direct to join the FTSE 100. Makes them a huge business now. Interesting given Mike Ashley's investment in Rangers?

DOIGER

Some people are unbelievably funny lol

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11 Sep 2013 20:27:43
here ed whit aboot thaim half wits thit set aboot the dug oan the bus because it hud a sellik tap oan?
wtf your these peepul oan they must surely be wired fur sound!
then challingid the "2 fenian bstds" tae a square go oan the pavemint!
luckily the dug hiz hid its jabs and noo its extra tetanus jist in case it catches anythin ffs ed whits tae become ae us
fkn cyclepaths {Ed007's Note - I've got one of the jackets for Yoda! And it's not the first dog I've seen in a CFC top, have you been outside the Barrowlands after a Wolfe Tones or CATB concert?}

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Not even worth a story in the DR, wonder what would have happened if it had been in blue?
Tambhoy

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11 Sep 2013 17:44:13
Just reading through all the posts, the Rangers new club/ old club debate is still going strong I see! I'm laughing my ass off!

Ed007 you are clever with your words I'll give you that much mate, makes me laugh the way you word things and how sharp you can be!

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At least you are the same as everyone else in Scotland and find it amusing rather that sending threats I suppose.

There is no 'debate', not really. The Rangers need constant clarification from anywhere and anyone that they are some kind of continuation of RFC. No other Club trawls the internet looking for this kind of clarification, enough said.

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Dream team you are the kind of person I avoid in life . a two faced so and so I've read your post on the tribute act site and they contradict everything you say on here now i'm all for banter but you my son are a clown . Please either be consistent or pi$$ off mm

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Exactly Mrs E.

On the flip side though, there have been many reports that Rangers are the same club. So in that case it is CFC fans who are constantly clamouring for people to say that RFC are dead. {Ed007's Note - Have you got a link to any of these 'reports'?}

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No links Ed007 I just remember reading lots of articles etc regarding different things. Lots of websites also still have Rangers on them with all our history etc still in tact. Also the vast majority of football fans and football people (journalists, pundits etc), even ex Celtic men have talked about looking forward to Rangers coming back and the next OF game etc surely they can't all be mis-informed is all I'm saying. {Ed007's Note - Of course Rangers and their trophies are on websites, nobody is saying they never existed.
Third Lanark were founded in 1872, incorporated in 1903 and were subsequently liquidated (as a single entity, none of your company/club pi$h) in 196, websites still list their achievements.
Third Lanark AC started up in 2007/8 and play in the Scottish Amateur Leagues, they haven't won any major trophies yet, just like The Rangers/Sevco/Newclub. The Scottish Third Division title is not classed as a major trophy, so in reality The Rangers/Sevco/Newclub are no different than Third Lanark AC (the new club) except that ruled were warped to allow The Rangers/Sevco/Newclub entry into the SFL, there was no demotion or relegation, it was a straight placement for a new club, otherwise why was a transfer of licence required?
There is no distinction between club or company, even Rangers official documents stated that fact in the lead up to liquidation. They are in the public domain, you can check yourself.
As I said, nobody has seen anything official to back up this ridiculous claim.}

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11 Sep 2013 20:38:38
@Dreamteam I feel sorry for you pal, all your food must taste and smell of manure with all the brown nosing you do on here. Timalloy

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'Dead' is just a figure of speech and I can't speak for other football supporters (its not exclusive to Celtic fans you see) but I do not need any reports to know RFC ceased to exist.

I know for a fact that RFC entered administration on 14 Feb 2012 and then Liquidation that summer.

Have you ever seen those tacky signs in cheap shop window's 'Liquidation Sale' 'Bankrupt' 'All Stock Must Go', that's where Charles Green bought Ibrox the football park and some other assets.

I get it you follow any team that play at Ibrox but my post was about the threats which are well out of order and beyond shameful!

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Yeah only reports are the ones that have been emerging from the propaganda dept of herr Jabba and the The Rangers Media house! It's amazing the amount of people condoning the theft of millions and pounds and then carrying on as if nothing has happened! It's amazing the sheer brass neck of these disgusting individuals! But what I do laugh at is the way these vile "people" are carrying on when these persons think that they are being "stolen" from!

The are the of society! The threats are disgusting and shows what these people are all about! I say shut the cesspit of society that is The Rangers (TRFC) down as enough is enough!

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Ok but what I mean Ed007 is that all these sites, UEFA included, state that Rangers ARE the 54 time Scottish champions who are currently attempting to get BACK to the top. Not in those exact words of course but that is the jist of what they are saying. Pundits etc all still refer to Rangers as Rangers, looking to get back on top, looking to win major trophies again etc etc. so is that what fans or CFC want to change? You want EVERYONE to call us "The Rangers" and never associate us with any of the honours previously won? If so, I simply do not see it happening. Too many people have moved on and as far as most within the game/media etc are concerned Rangers are alive and well going about their business trying to get back to the top.

Me? I am just happy to be going and watching the team I love as I have for many years, surrounded by like minded people who want to see us do well and seeing players give their all at Ibrox, in a Rangers jersey with a Rangers badge on it's chest. Regardless of the technicalities. {Ed007's Note - Rangers are the 54 times Scottish Champions. If ans when The Rangers/Sevco/Newclub win the SPL title it will be their first, Rangers history is frozen, you can't add to it. It's not bloody rocket science, look at clubs, shops, factories that have went into liquidation, they don't exist anymore. If it was the same club then players wouldn't have had the option of TUPEing over, their contracts with the club (not the company) would have still been valid.
Players are not contracted to a company, they are contracted to, and registered, as a player for a club. That is in FIFA/UEFA statutes, no mention of players signing for a company.
Look on the FIFA site where they say the club was liquidated, reformed and entered the SFL3.
Sure call yourself Rangers that's just natural but it is not the same club as you were supporting 5 years ago. If The Rangers/Sevco/Newclub ever win a major trophy, they will have a separate listing in any honours list to Rangers.
Why don't other teams bogged down with debt not do the exact same thing? Why has nobody bought the history of Third Lanark? Look up Airdrieonians history of a liquidated club.
Can I ask if you bought shares? What did you buy shares in, because according to you it's not Rangers if the club and company are separate entities?
What happened to the shareholders shares in the previous club, or the people who paid their debenture? How much are shares in the original Rangers worth these days, or were they mis-sold as people thought they were buying shares in Rangers rather than a company?
It boils down to the fact the club were brazen enough to rip-off 276 people, including small businesses and HMRC. When the CVA was rejected that meant the club was finished, if you want to be the original Rangers you should have paid ALL the debt.
It's not about calling yourself Rangers, that's just like calling Aberdeen The Dons, it's only a nickname. It's about the fact that the original version of Rangers, although it exists as a historical entity, is not a currently operating football club. The football club is called (and registered as) The Rangers International Football Club.
Have a read at this from the SFA website (another governing body), pay attention to the part that says:

'The Board has had to take some very difficult decisions to gain SFA membership'

www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish_fa_news.cfm?page=1961&newsCategoryID=3&newsID=10252

Wouldn't the club already be SFA members if it was the same club and the board of what exactly, the club or the company? Wouldn't they need two separate boards, one for the club and one for the company.....}

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Yes Ed007 I understand all that mate, have heard it all before. What I mean is, these sites DO NOT differentiate between Rangers and The Rangers as you call us. They report on them as the same club, not an old one and a new one. If you go to Scottish football>League One>Rangers and look at the list of honours on any football site (sky, bbc, whatever) it will say 54 titles and under information it will say name Rangers, founded 1872. Therefore as far as all those websites and people are concerned, it was not Rangers (1872-2012 then died and started again) it's Rangers (1872-present, demoted to fourth tier and currently trying to get back up.)

So my point is, I don't think that will ever change no matter how much people try. The general footballing universe still and always will consider Rangers to be the same club, rightly or wrongly.

Hope that clears it up and you can understand what I mean mate. {Ed007's Note - No they won't, it's only The Rangers/Sevco/Newclub fans that consider them to be the same club. The law, rules of finance and footballing statutes say otherwise. Do you honestly believe that Charles Green doesn't know what liquidation means? It's his business to know:

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@8 Ed you are wasting your breath, well energy typing your articulate and factual reply to this "person"! He is obviously in denial and sees only what his blue tinted coke bottled glasses allow him to see!
Facts are facts and you have stated them clearly enough for him! The vast majority of people I have spoken to has the same opinion that they are a new club! That includes some reasonably minded The Rangers supporters too! The only ones who are denying this are the knuckle dragging idiots such as the "clown" you replied to! These sane people are the "people" who are happy to sing their disgusting songs (Berwick) and sending threats to journalists and club chairman and anyone who dares to disagree with their point of view!

Shut them down, enough is enough! {Ed007's Note - You ask any businessman, even a The Rangers/Sevco/Newclub fan why they don't liquidate their company and start again and see what they say.}

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I haven't actually said either way what I think. I have merely said that is how most sites etc report on Rangers. But thanks for your mature input lol.

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Rangers fc were runners up in the spl in 2011-12. This gained them qualification to the UEFA champions league qualifiers. Can you explain why they didn't take up that place?

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I think the point they are making 'The Dream Team', to something you brought up remember, is that it doesn't really matter what you think- or what anyone else thinks for that matter. It is what it is.

Believe what you will- but the fact remains.

The Patient

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Aye, and all these celebs who come over from USA and ramble on about how great it is to be in 'England' when they mean UK. It's just what their perception is. The people who turn up at ibrokes to support the entity which plies its trade there can call it what they want. The facts are there, admin followed by liquidation-dead. Does MFI, Woolworths, Third Lanark etc not ring any bells? TinyTim

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The dream team: what I would really like to know is: how many faces can you paint for forty quid?, ., .kbarry

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Agree Tim- the truth is, the argument doesn't interest me, because there isn't one.

The fact is, and I've said this before, every Rangers fan knows (whether it's conscious or not) that with liquidation, something changed- which is why they get so caught up in the debate. The doth protest too much, if you will. If/when they try to compare Celtic changing to a PLC with their current situation, insinuating (and sometimes outright claiming) that we too, are a new club it largely falls on deaf ears and scoffs. Because we all know it to be SO untrue, it barely warrants a reply. If the Rangers were sure they were not a new club they would just laugh off he jibes- but their reaction/s show that they know, deep down, that they are.

And as for anyone peddling the Derek Johnstone school of logic- the "there's 50'000 who turn up at Ibrox every second week and say they are, so trying telling them they're not"- there is a simple reply: "There's OVER 50'000 at Celtic Park every second week (as well as European games) who say they are". Childish? Yes. But when in Rome.

Finally, on that note- and this is for you 'The Dream Team', seeing as you "haven't actually said either way"; the great delusion that is going on at Ibrox, and Ibrox alone, is tantamount to we, as Celtic fans, suddenly deciding that we beat Porto in Seville. Screw what everyone else thinks- it's what we believe! All hail Martin O'Neil and his triumphant team.

The Patient

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The patient what dya mean didn't we beat porto in seville? I thought we won 2-0 both from henrik, have I missed something? Also didn't we won 9in a row in the nineties?, ., .kbarry

C'mon you bhoys in green

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All well and good. But explain this to me then. Why are you all so obsessed with goings on at Ibrox if the club currently playing there are just a tribute act in no way associated with Rangers? There is more talk about Rangers on here than there is about Celtic. What does that say about all of you?

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@18 what does it say about all of us? That we are disgusted by the way that your old club ripped off hundreds of creditors to the tune of millions of pounds but "people" like you carry on as if nothing has happened! You then peddle a lie that you are the same club as the now dead club! If you want to be the same club, pay your debts and then the vast majority of honest supporters in Scotland will believe that you are! But until turn, you are a new club with one year of history, a history that is already blighted with sectarian shame, arrogance, stand over bulky boy tactics and most of all, no remorse what so ever!
You wonder why people are so interested in the goings on at your club? Because it is a new club born out of corruption, lies and theft! Get used to it pal because Scottish football will never let you forget and will always remind you that you are a NEW club!
AND, chances are you will have another new team to follow before the season is out lol

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@18, perhaps it's because we all live in this country, a country where the authorities, legal, financial, publicans footballing have colluded in the most underhand corrupt stinking way . They along with the mass media have failed to ask the correct questions to find the answers to issues they would be all over like a dog with a bone if it happened anywhere else but govan,

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Self correction, publicans have nothing to do with it, should say public and!

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@18)

First and foremost, the thread you are responding to was started by a Rangers fan asking the question.

As well as which, you are on a Celtic page, scanning for how much talk is about Rangers?

Why I'm obsessed with what's going on at Rangers? I'm not. If anything, the goings on are a mildly humorous insert into my week- and to be honest, it's 'car crash TV' for the most part.

The thing Rangers fans don't seem to understand is that we, as Celtic fans- or as people in general- don't need to view what's going on at Ibrox through any sort of hate filled Old Firm filter, we can just laugh at what it is; an embarrassing mess. Which is the exact same reason EVERY other team can laugh at Rangers now. It's got nowt to do with the now defunct Old Firm. It's all about the aforementioned 'car crash TV'; and the delusional fans that make it worth watching.

The Patient

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{Ed007's Note - You just had to show your true colours. Typical The Rangers/Sevco/Newclub fan, when you don't have a sensible answer you resort to mentioning paedophilia. To think anything like that is funny shows you for the vile and bigoted cretin you really are. You are now banned and blocked from all of our sites. I usually just block and ban arseholes like you but I thought everyone else should see you for exactly what you are. Would you laugh at a kid asking you for help in that situation? Think about the bigger picture, it will serve you better in life.}

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Ed: grassing is against my religion, but when it comes down to this I believe the cops should be brought in, as I really have my fears for that the dream team children, nephews and even neighbours, absolute stomach churning, i'd honestly kill a man or woman if I knew for sure,

If I had a house with 10 million rooms i'd open up the doors and let the street children in

Let stand up for the innocent children of this world,, Absolutely gets me and I mean it, ., .kbarry {Ed007's Note - It's ridiculous mate. I feel uncomfortable talking about or when the subject is on the news etc yet The Rangers/Sevco/Newclub fans are quite comfortable not only talking about it but finding enjoyment and humour in the subject. They are quite simply the scum of the earth, and they are just as dangerous to society as the perpetrators of such vile and disgusting crime. Maybe if they had any intelligence and looked more closely into their old club's history they wouldn't be so quick to jump on this sick and sectarian driven bandwagon.}

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ED- well done. Football is football, and banter is banter but there's no place for that, or anything like that. (I can guess as to what was said)

Funny thing is, it settles one argument: Different club maybe- but it's definitely the same fans.

The Patient

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@23 ed - as per usual well done! The guy showed his true colours a while ago with his posts about billy McNeill! What an absolute low life he is! Shame the EDS on the other thread aren't as good as you!

Well done 007!

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Well bhoy's and ghirl's now you know why we have to follow green jedhi stance and remind everyone what this ex team and their supporter's are guilty of.
Tambhoy

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@27 totally agree! I would love to see this disgusting organisation shut down for good! But, the vast majority of their so called supporters aren't that interested in football, they are only interested in using this new club to trumpet their own personal agendas, that of racism, sectarianism and hatred! The sad fact is, these individuals will only move onto another club to drive their own personal agendas, be it hearts, Kilmarnock or even Motherwell, they don't care!

So is this all just being caught between a rock and a hard place?

Something has to be done and done quickly!

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11 Sep 2013 16:31:15
A template letter to the BBC for all to use. Feel free to make changes.


Dear BBC or to whom it may concern.

I am writing to you to highlight some issues that the tv have been reporting on for some time.

It was brought to my attention last week when one of the tv reporters stated facts but was lambasted by people who are following a myth.

It is in relation to tv Scotlands Jim Spence and his comments that 'Rangers Died'.

Let me point out some facts that prove that Rangers did die and that the club who play football from Ibrox is in fact a brand new football club.



The assets of Rangers were purchased through a APA Asset Purchase Agreement.

The Administrators used the term "Club & Company in all of there correspondence because they were legally bound by Law.

The football "Club & Company" was NOT purchased, the "Assets" were purchased through an APA. If the "Club & Company" was purchased this would have been done though a CVA, Company Voluntary Arrangement.

Under Scottish Law the Club and Company are synonymous and indistinguishable.

The Club and Company were NOT sold.


At Companies House the football club Rangers which were formed in 1872 and Incorporated in 1899 is In Liquidation.

At Companies House the football club which had employed Sir David Holmes as 'Chairman and Chief Executive' is In Liquidation.

At Companies House the football club that was sold by Lawrence Marlborough to David Murray is In Liquidation.

At Companies House the football club which was Rangers Football Club PLC and whos parent company was Murray International Holdings Limited is In Liquidation.

At Companies House the football club which had employed Graeme Souness as 'Director, professional footballer' is In Liquidation.

At Companies House the football club which had employed Walter Smith as 'Director, football manager' is In Liquidation.

At Companies House the football club which had employed Donald Findley as 'Director, Queens Counsel' is In Liquidation.

At Companies House the football club which had employed Hugh Adam as 'Director' is In Liquidation.

At Companies House the football club which had employed Campbell Ogilvie as 'Director, Company Secretary, Football Club Secretary' is In Liquidation.

At Companies House the football club which had employed Dave King as Director, Businessman' is In Liquidation

At Companies House the football club which had employed John Greig as 'Director' is In Liquidation.

At Companies House the football club which employed John McClelland as 'Director, Corporate Executive' is In Liquidation.

At Companies House the football club which had employed Paul Murray as 'Director' is In Liquidation.

At Companies House the football club which had employed Alistair Johnston as 'Director' is In Liquidation.

At Companies House the football club which had employed Martin Bain as 'Chief Executive' is In Liquidation.

At Companies House the football club which was sold by David Murray to Craig Whyte is In Liquidation.

The football club that Charles Green started has no connection whatsoever to the football club that used to play at Ibrox.


All of this information is freely available on the Companies House website.

"Companies House is an executive agency of the Department for Business Innovation and Skills". Companies House information is legally accurate, it has to be. If it wasn't due diligence couldn't take place and there would be no economy.



Please let me bring to your attention Uefa Club Licensing.


UEFA Club Licensing Part 3 Section 3.

The Club as Licence Applicant and the UEFA Licence 3.1
Definition of Licence Applicant

3.1.1

""The Licence Applicant **may only be a football club**(The football club called The Rangers Football Club Limited Company Number: SC425159 playing in SPFL league One was Incorporated in 2012 making them a brand new football club)that is the legal entity fully responsible for the football team participating in national and international competitions and which is the legal entity member of the Scottish Football Association(Full or Associate Member).

The licence applicant is responsible for the fulfillment of the club licensing criteria. This membership must have been in place at the start of the licence season for a minimum period of three consecutive years.Any alteration to the club's legal form or company structure (including, for example, changing its headquarters, name or club colours, or transferring stakeholdings between different clubs) during this period in order to facilitate its qualification on sporting merit and/or its receipt of a licence to the detriment of the integrity of a competition is deemed as an interruption of membership within the meaning of
this provision.
The UEFA administration may grant exceptions on the non applicability of the above three year rule in case of change of legal form or company structure of the licence applicant on a case by case basis. These exceptions are granted to the individual club that applies for a UEFA Licence. An exception is granted for a period of one season; under specific circumstances, this period may be extended. A
renewal of the exception is possible upon a new request. Refer to Annex I B(�1, 2, 4
8) of the UEFA Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations for more details on the process"".

The 3 year rule applies to the new club as they do not comply with the criteria.

3.3.6 Withdrawal of a UEFA Licence.

"A licence may be withdrawn during a season (after it has been awarded) by the Scottish FA if the licence applicant:

(a) Is presented for its winding up or where the member club in question shall convene a meeting to pass a resolution for voluntary winding up or shall enter into any form of liquidation".

(b) No longer satisfies any single condition for issuing the Licence

(c) Violates any of its obligations under the Manual".

Rangers went out of business owing Millions of pounds and are currently in the throws of Liquidation. The new club which bought the assets had to apply for a licence.

Please also be aware of Part 3, Section 1.1.2; that "The Scottish FA Board approves the terms of this Manual. This is reviewed annually and cannot change during the licensing process, unless duly approved by UEFA. The Manual conforms to UK Law.

I hope that I have dispelled any myths that surround the "Old Club / New Club argument. I do hope in the future that the tv will report the facts of the matter when it comes to reporting on the new football club that play from Ibrox.

Until such times I will not be paying my Licence fee because in my opinion the tv are lying to me. I will also be actively encouraging people not to pay their Licence fee.

Yours in Honesty and Integrity.

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Great informed post but you might need an abacus and sledgehammer to drum it into these deluded tools mm

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Excellent post! But, these disgusting chunts at Ibrox will continue with their vile attacks on people trying to do their jobs!
You have to laugh at them when the ASA were investigating complaints from people about the lies they were peddling with advertising their disgusting organisation! They called the 86 people pathetic and laughed that they would waste their time doing this! But let's face it, these complaints weren't made with threats! So, why do these people think that their actions are above reproach and correct in all ways?

Shut them down! Enough is enough!

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A brilliant post but as is said "some fell on stones ground." why do we keep cluttering up the issue with actual facts? The undead don't have time for them as they arra peepul. TinyTim

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Your's in honesty and integrity, Keep up the good work, along with green jedhi and let no one forget.
Tambhoy

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11 Sep 2013 12:31:45
Now that the international break is over (hooray) we can get back to talking all things Celtic.
One thing from the Scotland games I notice was Brown and Mulgrew playing together in midfield, this looks a good combination for CL especially away games. Most Celtic fans are divided where to play Mulgrew to get best out of him, CB, LB or CM.
Also he seemed to bring the best out of Broonie so perhaps keep them both in midfield for Milan game.
Lets here all your thoughts gang. hail hail Timalloy

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Timalloy a would have him cb and lb when izzy is injured or needs a rest a wouldn't have him anywer near mf tbh. Done not bad last night must admit but a just don't rate him in mf for us. Personally a think he's been pretty poor for a while but always seems 2 be 1 of lennons 1st picks on every team sheet and always gets accommodated and found a position instead of dropped for some reason. that's just ma oppnion anyway

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Gunniebhoy, mulgrew is one our best players, can play in a lot of positions, although I agree cb is were he won P.O.T.Y. I believe mulgrew is one of lenny best signings at a cost of ziltcho, ., .kbarry

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Mulgrew is one of the most average players I have ever seen in a Celtic jersey. He is no where near good enough or especially fast enough to play in the midfield as was shown last season against Juve where he was so much out his depth. A LB at best or perhaps cover for CD.

Des

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Des are you for real mate? "one of the most average players youv seen in a celtic jersey" c'mon mate, muggleton, gk cha du ri, rb danny fox, lb du wie, cb rogne, cb stuart slater, rm willo flood, m thomas graveson, m marc crosas, m wayne biggens, f bangura, f killen, f lassad, f. I bet you were a tony shephard fan, ., .kbarry

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"Especially fast enough"

Typical attitude of people on these shores. Pace and strength more important than technical ability. I'm not saying Mulgrew is an outstanding midfielder, but he is a very decent player with good technique who has done well in there whenever he has been asked to, given it is not his natural position.

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Cha du ri was hung out to dry keane ect were in that team but cha was blamed for it all, that was a good squad put out that day .im not saying he was a world beater but to be a captain of a nation of a billion I would have given the guy more of a chance hail hail

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South Korea has a population of a billion? I think you've been mis-informed lol.

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His distribution and long ball was fantastic for scotland.

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Cha du ri never played in the same team as keane I believe you mean du wie?, ., .kbarry

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11 Sep 2013 00:14:53
I Keep reading on both Celtic and Rangers sites that we are the biggest best club in the world/britain/scotland with the biggest support. The most successful etc etc etc Why is your team the best/biggest I have tried to post this on both sites it will be intresting to see the facts people use to prove these statements.

Rangobango {Ed007's Note - They must be the old and outdated Rangers sites you are looking at, if you look at the more upto date ones you will see that The Rangers/Sevco/Newclub can't lay claim to anything like that. Rangers don't exist any longer, that's a fact. Just because they spout the same twisted, vile and bigoted views doesn't mean they are the same as the old Rangers.
And if you don't know why CFC are the greatest sporting entity in the world of sport then sorry, you never will. It's not just about football, it's about having some class, some dignity and doing things they way they should be done, Go to a game at CP and it is like a carnival atmosphere thanks to the GB, go to Ibrox and it's the same sectarianism, bigotry and vile songs that the original club's fans sang. What would you expect when their CEO is openly a racist. They must have thought they had another Struth in the boardroom with Green, good job he never asked Imran Ahmed or The Slug out on a boat ride....
And anyone who uses paedophillia as a point scoring thing in any debate/banter is seriously disturbed, who in their right mind cracks jokes about something like that?
And that's just a few things that separate the clubs (or is it companies?) as a whole, without going into CFC's 126 years of history and The Rangers/Sevco/Newclub's ONE single, solitary year of history, with one single scabby lower league title to their name. ;-)
I'm sure other posters will fill you in with specific details of the difference and why CFC are the greatest sporting entity in the world.}

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Our Ed your a genius, ., .kbarry {Ed007's Note - The Truth Is Out There KB. I know it, you know it and deep down, even they know it. Personally I thought liquidation would have been the end of it, but as long as they are scavenging at the rotting carcass of the old club, I'll keep pi$$ing myself laughing at them.}

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Doff of the cap too you mr ED.LOL, expertly put .yet only the denial & self persecution lives on & thrives thru the ranks of the new form of reprebates. steff

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As I say our Ed your a genius wordsmith mate, ., .kbarry {Ed007's Note - :-)

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I as you know Ed am a supporter of the greatest team in the world and have many days at Celtic rark in the memory bank and many in the future to look forward to. I am intrested in the reasons that people make claims like these and what they use to back them up. I quite enjoy using statistics to back these statements up like our attendance figures against Aberdeen that is an all time european record for attendance or our semi final at hampden against leeds in 1970 but I accept to others it is not these things that make us bigger than Rangers it is the thngs you list Ed I prefer a blend of both of these things.

Rangobango {Ed007's Note - There is no Rangers to compete with us, on any level. Money, trophies, history, class, dignity, public profile and THE dominant force in Scottish football makes us bigger and better than Rangers/The Rangers/Sevco/Newclub or any bastardised version they want to puke up next.}

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Well said Ed: Do you think they will ever get it. or. get away with it?

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The problem is that you need a certail level of intelligence to understand the concept of liquidation and it's associated consequences. For me Sevco's fans claiming it's the same club with history intact is akin to Trigger in fools and horses when he goes on about his depot brush, "same brush since he started, just three new heads and four new handles", still though nothing beats imagination!

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I agree with most of what you say Ed, the only thing I don't like is when people belittle the league sevco are playing in you call it a scabby league let's not disrespect the other clubs playing in these leagues they al play there part and deserve our respect
snootiebhoy {Ed007's Note - It was more the manner that The Rangers/Sevco/Newclub celebrated it, I guess as a CFC supporter I am prone to snobbery because we are only used to winning major trophies and one off prestigious and historic tournaments. On second thoughts I can see why fans of new club would celebrate their first ever trophy in that way, I have been to a few Accies games over the years and seen them win lower league titles and seen what it meant to their fans. Smaller clubs should celebrate any trophy, so point taken.}

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Ed your the man mm

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