Celtic Banter Archive January 11 2016

 

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11 Jan 2016 21:12:11
Hi guys just seen a link on Facebook showing images of the Dundee United Stranraer cup game two seasons ago smoke bombs banners galore and for the life of me I xannot remember all the pantie wetter out in force or the up in arms msm demanding inquests and suggesting possible sanctions against Dundee United? I dint condone it and also the songs being sung either but a balanced reaction would be nice but when you are the biggest show in town and have Sevco sympathisers in the press that's never going to happen dint know if any of you remember the United game but the images are easy to find.

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11 Jan 2016 21:48:58
We might be the biggest show in town, but you just have to look at those images from the weekend to see that some of our support have the smallest of brains, and just because the DU support are inflicted with similiar numbskulls, that should'nt concern us in the least.

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11 Jan 2016 22:02:57
I don't disagree with you on the element we have within our fan Base who feel this is acceptable behaviour all I am pointing out is a level playing field on such matters two weeks ago on mass recital of the Billy boys on live TV and the following Monday stv news a minute slether of a possible comment on it tonight on news that wee cretin standing outside the front of celtic Park gleefully proclaiming possible sanctions and fines that's what I am talking about no such reports two years ago at the United game.

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11 Jan 2016 23:17:29
Bigp I assume you have watched celtic for a long time. If you are still waiting on a level playing field then you will have a long wait. Celtic has attracted vitriol from the press almost since they began because of their origin and their success. I don't care what the press say about us because the majority of it is borne out of bitterness and jealousy. That doesn't mean I support the behaviour of this group of fans who continually behave like buffoons. If they continue to cause the club trouble with their idiotic actions they should be banned. They might sing and bang a drum but they are no more supporters than you or I and despite what they think have no special place within the club or the support.

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11 Jan 2016 23:28:20
Yes but we have to stop comparing how others are treated for their misdemeanours, as if it in some way lessens what the bampots in stranraer got upto, this is not the first time that Celtic are being taken to task because of these idiots, I don't remember that DU game, and how can we complain about sectarian singing at ibrokes if the Celtic support are singing songs that other s find objectionable.

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{Ed007's Note - Surely we are entitled to be treated the same as other clubs though? Dundee Utd, Hearts, TRIFC, Aberdeen, Dunfermline and Hamilton are just a few of the teams that fans have used pyro over the last couple of years and faced no punishment from the authorities. So why are we so different?
If we had sang Old Man River yesterday there would have been a kick up about it after the Sash Bash at the Methadome against Hibs, I never heard any sectarian singing at Stranraer, not one, and nobody can name the sectarian songs that were supposedly sang - odd that...}

11 Jan 2016 23:55:18
Never said it was sectarian at stranraer, maybe i don'nt watch enough DU, Hearts, TRIFC, Aberdeen, DAFC and Hamilton, but can't say I seen anything like the display at their games as was seen at stranraer, maybe they're just not showing it on tv,

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{Ed007's Note - So there was nothing wrong with the songs except some people didn't like them. At least we've cleared that up. So you watched the TRIFC v Hibs match, do you watch a lot of Hibs games?}

12 Jan 2016 00:25:29
Exactly, and I didn't watch the TRIFC v Hibs match either.

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{Ed007's Note - So how did you know there was any sectarian singing? :=o

12 Jan 2016 00:36:24
You got me there, was only repeating the media, suppose The billy boys isn't really sectarian as Fenian is a political description as there were protestant fenians as well, anyway am away to bed, goodnight.

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12 Jan 2016 14:13:28
Really can't be arsed with this middle class sensibility that is trying to sanitise football and has led to the criminalisation of fans. As far as I am concerned "Let the people sing" whatever they want, as the vast majority is banter to wind up their rivals.

If people don't like the songs, they can beat it and go watch rugby with the rest of their own social group.

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11 Jan 2016 21:10:35
ed am fritened rite!
wer the fk is east kilbride?
is it near aff granyystan your evin furthur tae the west embra?
its jist the fkn name KILLBRIDE " IT JIST REMINS ME AE MA 3RD WIFE! anywaey a dun ma time etc so, he who gassed the furst brick ect,
here ye canae get dun fur the same murder twice kin ye ed?
bye the waey yer auntie wiz askin fur it?
mind you so wiz wee timbos!

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{Ed007's Note - East Kilbride's just like Hamilton except they try to talk snobby and it comes out like the weird accent Scots seem to use in English TV shows so the English can understand them.}

12 Jan 2016 16:24:57
You'll be fine phat. Maist ae the boys your fae gid hames an'ur kittit oot wae the best a traki gear wae oot a provvy loan in sight

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11 Jan 2016 20:49:52
Couldn't ask for much better with the draw, Just hope Deila gives the likes of Nesbitt and Miller a game maybe with Cole up top with them. Guaranteed the Edinburgh derby and Sevco Killie will be the 2 on tele.

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11 Jan 2016 22:42:19
Wonder what the odds on celtic with the junior team getting 9 goals of a start think a wee tenner would be worth it just to be able to say years later you had put that bet on.

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11 Jan 2016 19:17:16
Jim Tim his best season was 15 goals . one season 10 the rest 7 and under . we looked at linked to 3 Icelandic strikers at the time and he was the poorest of the 3.

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12 Jan 2016 07:59:06
Still think he'd improve us! We'll end up wih the two lads from Walsall anyway.

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11 Jan 2016 19:08:07
I, I will be king

And you, you will be queen Though nothing, will drive them away We can beat them, just for one dayWe can be heroes, just for one day

And you, you can be mean And I, I'll drink all the time 'Cause we're lovers, and that is a fact Yes we're lovers, and that is that

Though nothing, will keep us together We could steal time, just for one dayWe can be heroes, forever and ever What'd you say?

David Bowie RIP
The term genius is over used.
This man was that and more
Sad today.

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11 Jan 2016 21:02:20
Well said, he was incredible! Super cool doesn't do him justice! His new album is about to come out! Just to lighten the mood - which the great man would like! There was a Celtic supporter (I only know because he had cfc at the end of his name) anyway he left his condolences online saying Radio Clyde would never be the same again that David Bowie had died! God love him, I suppose the irony is he should be listening to the real David Bowie instead of cheesy dance music played by a Morton (ah right) fan!

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12 Jan 2016 08:49:05
Lemmy didn't wait too long before sending out the party invitations eh?

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12 Jan 2016 08:51:10
Bowie had just released a new album and I wondered what kind of stunt he would have to promote it.
Just when you think you have seen it all, he ups the game for everyone. Well done Ziggy.

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11 Jan 2016 18:46:17
There's been a terrible mix up at the Scottish cup draw.
Rangers got their usual home tie and Celtic got their usual away tie, but somehow they managed to get the opposition the wrong way round.
An enquiry has been launched, and the SFA has promised that such a mistake will never happen again.
Seriously though, we can't really complain about that draw.

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11 Jan 2016 19:31:16
yip gerry bhoy we get a bye against non league and the zombies get a bye against the zombies II :-)

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11 Jan 2016 22:46:35
It kind of evened itself up:- we got East Kilbride and they got East Ayrshire Rangers supporters club.

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12 Jan 2016 22:43:41
Rangers got one of the few " Rangers friendly " teams that still exist and of course at home .
Celtic drawn away again, and of course it is team ranked lower than Celtic .
Every team are ranked lower than Celtic.

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11 Jan 2016 17:52:35
James Morrison out of contract in summer and free agent. Would take him in a heartbeat exactly what we need.

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11 Jan 2016 18:04:00
Skinny bhoy. . This is an area rm / cm we've got covered with brown. biton. rogic. sott Allen. christie to come in . mgregor playing well imo. and possibly mocinic. don't think he's better than any of them.

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11 Jan 2016 18:04:46
Vastly overrated player! Wouldn't have him at us.

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11 Jan 2016 18:21:24
And he's one of that mob! No chance!

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11 Jan 2016 18:47:16
He always plays gash for Scotland.

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11 Jan 2016 19:17:45
Puts that to bed then haha.

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11 Jan 2016 16:13:54
You'll need to excuse my ignorance here but why is it that no normal Celtic fans standing around these clowns that throw flairs etc say anything to them? Or do they and they just don't care.

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11 Jan 2016 16:30:41
Hard thing to confront a team of boozed / hyped up youngsters cmc bhoy. especially if your a middle aged / or older fan. the same age group confronting them could lead to mass brawls.30 + year ago I would probably been in amongst the daftiez making a arse of myself . but age gives you a different perspective . ask the boys involved and they most likely travel everywhere with the team and think they are supporting them . we older fans can see the negatives . but 16 _20 year old?

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11 Jan 2016 16:46:26
I kinda guessed that would have been the case drb. I was just wondering if anyone had ever ever seen/ said anything to them. I assume it's a section where there are a few of them all together? I'm only asking as I haven't been to an away day for many a year! It's amazing the perspective age brings haha.

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11 Jan 2016 16:48:27
It's up to the clubs.

Celtic need to clamp down on people who are going to have a negative impact on both the club and other fans.

Other clubs, police and security may need to start more rigorous checks.

Ed007, a penny for your thoughts on this one? I've seen you talk about the grasses and panty wetters before.

Personally I know that I'd be fine standing next to somebody with a flare. I'd be confident using one safely too. But you get idiots in society and potentially allowing tens of thousands of p*ssed people using them is dangerous.

There are rules and laws in life you may not agree with but you still adhere to them because you know the consequences on both yourself and others.

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{Ed007's Note - It's storm in a tea cup with the usual idiots and cranks in our support getting their knickers in a twist over nothing as they sit on their couch Tweeting about how 'outraged' they are.}

11 Jan 2016 17:06:28
Like all neds they hang around in numbers which gives them super human powers, speak to them individually and butter wouldn't melt i'd imagine. I wouldn't advise anyone to have a go at them verbally or otherwise. Just report them to the nearest steward or copper would be the better option.

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11 Jan 2016 17:08:33
Do you think it's acceptable ed, assuming these people know they are going to bring a sanction to the club and possibly other fans?

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{Ed007's Note - Are they, so what sanctions are they going to bring to the club?}

11 Jan 2016 17:22:44
Well this latest incident won't have a case opened up immediately I don't think (? ) . But down the line if it continues we could easily be looking at having away supports banned from grounds. That's unfair on those who want to go to games and have the respect to behave as they should.

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{Ed007's Note - Where did you hear that we could 'easily' have our away support banned from grounds? It sounds like you've been listening to the Damp Panties CSC.}

11 Jan 2016 17:28:58
I think we could go on all day about what's acceptable and what's not. It's a bit like the song selection, personally I don't have a problem and they bring an atmosphere but at the end of the day it's the club that suffers.

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11 Jan 2016 17:45:26
Will the same people who are outraged in the press report the sfa spl when they put on a pyro/ smoke display at the cup finals. how can we condemn daft boys when displays are used to enhance cup final experience. this happens at football grounds all over the world but it's seems it's only an outrage when it's celtic fans . I personally don't like pyros but can see how it appeals to others.

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11 Jan 2016 17:56:32
Don't mind being a panty wetter if i'm incorrect and crying over spilt milk. Am I wrong? Is it not possible such actions would be taken? I couldn't give two hoots about the fines. Just don't like the idea of other peoples times being spoilt by sad acts. These 'pyro shows' by 'ultras' don't even look impressive, just sad. We could go on all day about rights and wrongs but throwing a flare on a pitch as the teams are about go come out? That is just wrong, and sad.

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{Ed007's Note - I'm sure it'll look a lot better up at Tannadice on Friday night, pyro always looks better at matches played at night. (rock) (party)

11 Jan 2016 18:16:22
It probably will. No doubt there'll be a "f*ck uefa, the sfa and wet panties" banner too. You'll give yourself away ed.

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{Ed007's Note - Someone should just hold up a big banner saying 'F**K YOU!' and see how many supporters get upset by it and start claiming it's aimed at them.}

11 Jan 2016 18:24:12
The people throwing flares on to the park etc are bags. End of!! What would any right thinking person be wanting to do such a thing?

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11 Jan 2016 18:53:31
Totally agree ED. I have a theory: if you shout c**t into a room, some people will turn to see what's going on, and some will think you're talking to them.

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11 Jan 2016 18:55:38
No right minded person would want through flares around a crowded football stadium. Its a bunch of so called supporters sticking 2 fingers to the club and the rest of the support saying they'll do what they want. A shower of that we could really do without.

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11 Jan 2016 20:01:53
I don't understand the mentality of these people, the club don't want them to throw flares, most supporters don't want them to throw flares, and it gives people who hate our club the opportunity to give us a kicking, so what do they think they are achieving by their actions?
The fact that they bring these flares to the stadium, shows that they are deliberately sticking 2 fingers up to the club, I wish they would come out and explain how they think they are supporting the club with their actions.

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11 Jan 2016 20:28:15
They aren't supporters Gerry no matter how many people make excuses for them.

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{Ed007's Note - I've not seen anyone making any excuses, excuses for what exactly? I'd say that anyone who spends over 4 hours travelling for a game of football has proven their worth as a supporter - no matter who says otherwise.}

11 Jan 2016 21:17:31
It's not often I disagree with you ed but that's ridiculous. We've been fined umpteen times for it, the so called fans know it but persist in doing it. Why? They know that the media will be all over it but they still do it. They either don't care about the reputation of the club or they're just f*cktards.

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{Ed007's Note - When has the SPFL or SFA fined the club - or any club - for pyro at a game?}

11 Jan 2016 21:44:20
By them I'm not sure but by uefa 2 or 3 times.

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{Ed007's Note - Yesterday's match wasn't played under UEFA's umbrella.}

11 Jan 2016 21:56:57
I don't really see your point ed. Have the club and fans not been warned before by the Sfa and the police? Do these fans not know that the club will be punished! Do these fans not know that the media will drag our name through the mud any chance they get?

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{Ed007's Note - My point is you said the club had been fined umpteen times which they really haven't and never by the SFA/SPFL, I don't expect any punishment this time either. What UEFA do or don't do is nothing to do with it and personally I couldn't give a toss what the SFA and especially the police say.
I'll assume you're one of the fans that, along with the SFA and police, supports the OBF Act?}

11 Jan 2016 22:14:46
I don't actually. I'd also sing song after song and have a flare in my hand if it was allowed. My point is the club is constantly getting dragged through the mud by these morons. You can think what you want about the police etc but that doesn't change the fact we've been warned time and time again. Fight the law, fight the authorities, fight the act, but do it the right way and stop tarnishing our name.

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{Ed007's Note - Look at the people who are doing the dragging, any other time they say anything we all tell each other to ignore them etc, why's it so different now? Perhaps there wasn't anything RD done at the weekend to help sell their papers.}

11 Jan 2016 22:37:44
I totally agree ed. but knowing that as soon as any of our fans step out of line they will be on us like flies on shite should be enough for us to think differently. Can you imagine if its as bad as this just now what it would be like if one of the flares hit someone? It's easy to ignore when they talk utter mince but as far as I can see there's nothing they have said about this incident that's factually incorrect? On a side note was it really 3 minutes between the 'incidents' and the DR updating their website?

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{Ed007's Note - So why let it bother you what newspapers write? It's like listening to Radio Snyde and moaning about it, if you don't listen to it you won't have anything to moan about. Who are we supposed to be impressing with our behaviour in the first place, the press, Zombies, who?}

11 Jan 2016 22:48:26
Travelling a great distance doesn't automatically make you a better fan than anyone else. Sing songs that bring constant embarrassment and chucking flares about even when the club has constantly asked people not is likely to get criticism and get you labelled a trouble maker.

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{Ed007's Note - Jings ma boab, those pesky labellers are involved now! You know how Ultras LOVE their labels.}

11 Jan 2016 23:48:03
but we all know the papers and radio talk mince and that's fine to ignore. It's a little harder when they are right whether there's consistency in their stories or not. These fans let everyone of the decent fans down. They constantly think they are above the law and even the club. It bothers me because this tarnishes our reputation which has taken a few hits lately. It's quite obvious they have no respect for the club or they wouldn't be doing it. Simple as that.

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{Ed007's Note - When the hits the fans bring on are as bad as the board brings I'll start worrying.}

11 Jan 2016 15:49:29
{Ed's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, Chelsea Defender To Stay Put, Palermo In Chaos (Again) And More

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11 Jan 2016 19:25:26
I tell you what's not acceptable, JCs uttering to the press about sevco. He should be banned for life not some young lad with a squib.

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12 Jan 2016 11:32:32
So, is this report wrong then since some people seem to feel that the use of pyrotechnics is no big deal?

Strathclyde Police - regarding smoke bombs and flares.

It is illegal to attempt to enter a sporting ground in possession of a flare or a smoke bomb during the designated period of a match.

It is also against the Ground Regulations of the Scottish Football Association, Scottish Football League and Scottish Premier League to be in possession of such a smoke bomb or flare.

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11 Jan 2016 12:39:19
What time is the draw getting done.

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11 Jan 2016 13:58:31
18.15.

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11 Jan 2016 15:33:47
To save you waiting, the draw is going to be:

Hearts v Celtic

Rangers v Linlithgow Rose

The Rangers match will be broadcast live on TV.

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11 Jan 2016 15:55:40
OH Gerry you are so cynical, I make them playing Annan at Ibrox, then witholding the wee club's share of gate money lol.

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11 Jan 2016 15:57:43
I'm hoping we get them at Ibrox and they chuck Dallas Jr. in just for good measure because we'll still beat them. Hammering teams like Dumbarton and Cowdenbeath has given them delusions of grandeur.

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11 Jan 2016 16:02:43
gerry yur sum man wee pat salutes ye! lmfaaff. here whit if that IS the draw then you kin be clair voyent?
here am sure a winched her maw in the 70's.

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11 Jan 2016 16:22:24
The draw has been pockled for so long It shouldn't matter who we get, where they send us, what time we kick off or what honest mistake merchant they appoint.
We were robbed of a treble by a cheat and his sidekicks last season and we need no further incentive or cause to assert our superiority and keep the detractors 'clamped'.

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11 Jan 2016 18:33:52
A see what u mean lads 👍🏿.

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11 Jan 2016 12:34:46
Not celtic related but as much a constant in my life since childhood . rip David bowie.

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11 Jan 2016 11:41:41
I have to admit I've been fairly impressed by the standard of player we've been linked with so far but, as always with Celtic, I won't hold my breath on any of them materialising and just cross my fingers that we've done a wee bit of decent business come Feb 1st.

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11 Jan 2016 13:50:37
Have we put a bid in for Sigthorsson?

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11 Jan 2016 15:58:28
I don't think there's an official bid.

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11 Jan 2016 16:29:13
Out of all the players we have been linked with he's the only one that would improve the starting 11 . Hope this is true but doubt this will happen as he's got a very good goal scoring record . Me normaly sign strikers that are a project.

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11 Jan 2016 16:38:02
I think Mane and Pantic would get in too mind KC. Haven't seen as much of Mane but he looks a handful.

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11 Jan 2016 16:55:12
Probably wishful thinking but would love us to get Mane, Pantic, Mocinic and Sigthorsson in and get rid of all the deadwood.

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11 Jan 2016 17:00:04
Didn't anybody watch sithgorson against us he was utter rubbish he had one decent season in holland . also he was around 4th choice of the strikers we were looking at around the . he just isn't very good.

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11 Jan 2016 18:02:20
We tried but just couldn't get any over the line.

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11 Jan 2016 18:04:16
I was thinking earlier he looked bang average against us DRB! One decent season is too harsh though. He'd improve the striking dept no doubt. One step at a time.

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11 Jan 2016 01:30:08
4-3-1-2

For me this is the way we need to go under Ronny now, more compactness in the midfield with a CAM playing off two strikers. I realise today we played a flat 4-4-2 but if Ronny could tweak his usual 4-2-3-1 formation to the one I've suggested I feel that would give us the maximum benefit, especially here in Scotland.

So an example could be something like.

-----------Gordon------------

-Lustig--Ambrose--Simunovic--Terney--

----------Bitton------------

----Allan---------Rogic------

----------Commons------------

------Griffiths---Cole-------

For me this is the team I would go with atm, but I still feel Izzy should be getting used more often as it's too much too soon for me to be playing Tierney every week, the young lad needs to bulk up a bit for the rigours of the game on a weekly basis. He's doing well, but Ronny at this rate is going to burn him out, see him pulling up with cramp against Fenerbache as an example.

Anyway, for me looking at this team we need a new striker, CM, CAM (Commons getting on a bit) , CB and maybe a RB as it can't be long before Lustig picks up another injury. But this team will do for now and should be more than enough to land the treble.

A bench of say.

Bailly, Izzy, Janko (When fit) , Christie, McGregor, Forrest, Nesbitt or thereabouts.

Time to trim the fat around the squad and add some much needed quality if Deila wants to remain here any longer.

Time to shift the likes of Scepovic, Stokes, Boeriggter, Ciftci, GMS, Armstrong, Johansen, Blackett, Boyata, Mulgrew and dare I say it maybe even Brown for good as he's breaking down as a player now and we need better in the middle of the park.

Freeing up all those wages as I can only imagine how much that would save us would give us plenty to go out there and bring in some quality and inject them into a 4-3-1-2 formation.

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11 Jan 2016 09:05:15
Sorry I totally disagree that set up is far 2 narrow , it may work against a part time team but against footballers who do the job for a living we need more width than that and traditionally we have always played with wide men, what we need is better wingers to stretch the defences of kille and partick and leave more room in the middle for our strikers and am, what we need is better wingers who can produce a final ball .

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11 Jan 2016 10:43:41
Cole isn't mobile enough for us to play 2 it would be a waste having LG grafting in mf for most of the game.

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11 Jan 2016 10:45:29
I agree that RD should use this formation much more - especially domestically - and particularly at home.
I have never understood playing 2 or even 3 holding players at times and using one striker so rigidly.
The striker situation does need addressing as although Cole held his own against lower league opponents, he is too slow and awkward and not great in the air, while Ciftci still needs to convince the fans and the manager?
I would like to see us sign a better option to help LG.

Of the players you would ditch, I would change Johansen and Armstrong for Commons and McGregor.
Johansen has been patchy to say the least, but yesterday he was much better in his favourite role and even when he was injured he was still as good as any SPL opponent.
Commons- for me has been treading water this season and although still one of our most skilled players - he is not the player he was. Armstrong - if he gets to play in his proper position - still could reach his potential, although I feel McGregor is the opposite and has flattered to deceive.
He has one good game in five if your lucky and I reckon Henderson wS a better prospect and we missed a trick?

I would like to see Tierney getting a break as you say or he will be ruined - like we did with Forrest and he should also be careful with Gordon and Rogic who have came back after very long injuries and need to be protected.
Janko looked very good in the short time he has played and I hope he gets more games, although I was not too chuffed to see Blacket still hanging around and hope this is just temporary until we get a decent centre back signed.

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11 Jan 2016 11:29:49
Agree JJ but KC will be hanging up his boots with us he still has a year left, mcgregor has 4 and cole given 2 which I couldn't understand in the first place when all we needed was a bit of cover till this window. I don't see the older two playing much next season and see it as 20k+ out our wage budget. I'd be happy with a cb and a decent am this window that can play across the front three as this could take a bit of pressure of LG. If we do manage to sign a striker I hope he works out, the law of averages has to kick in at some point!

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