Celtic Banter Archive December 11 2020

11 Dec 2020 23:46:25
Does Lennon actually think that as far as results go are not down to him? And the pland protest is to the board asking why they haven't replaced him as manager. With his statement tonight Does he actually think and believe that he is doing a good job? Because it's not doing him or his backroom staff any good they have only lost one domestic game OMG not mentioning the bad performances bad decisions for player selection the amount of draws we have had 13 points adrift with the most expensive players in the league by far not to mention the poor display in Europe but in his mind he is doing okay wake up Lennon.

12 Dec 2020 03:59:06
Tbh mate I don’t think everything is down to him. You can argue about tactics team selections whatever you like.

Players downing tools and players not ready has been the issue. Lennon has been at the helm when this has happened.
Maybe one day we’ll find out who signed who etc. I do agree that on paper he should be getting a better tune out them.

12 Dec 2020 04:28:50
Tony I've had a good think about this since yesterday and for me Lennon is solely to blame.

Last night I did give benefit of doubt, thinking maybe Lawwell was interfering in team selection but ruled this out after remembering Lennon first stint.

We shouldn't be in this position worrying about 10iar. We are the benchmark with 9iar, we should of been doing everything right to maintain that status but an incompetent manager and complacency has allowed the strongest Rangers side in their 8 year history to put serious pressure on 10iar.

12 Dec 2020 06:19:22
Just to elaborate and for the purpose of debate.

Ever since before the first fernavicos game I had the feeling something was off. Lennons body language has been totally different. When he speaks it’s the vocabulary he’s using. Not the same as last season. He looks suicidal at times. I think there’s been more going on behind the scenes that’s upset the team. Maybe not. Ever thought it might be a suit that’s leaked the teams b4 matches? The Sutton’s and Harrison’s will know the real issue.

12 Dec 2020 09:40:00
I really don't think anyone needs to leak the team to anyone as Lenny picks or has picked the same team for more than a year irrespective on how they perform. He plays the same way in all the games if it's clear it's no working he just sits there chewing looking blank until 60 plus minutes then makes a substation Really Sadly most if not all teams know what he will do.

12 Dec 2020 11:05:14
Tamthebam who’s Harrison.

12 Dec 2020 11:39:16
Hartson. Predictive. 😏.

11 Dec 2020 22:11:27
Any idea as to why we aren't playing one of our games in hand midweek? Is it simply due to the cup final.

11 Dec 2020 22:55:58
I don’t know the reason why jaw because it’s usually the first available date.
Hopefully when the game does get replayed, Celtic are flying.
The SPFL announced this week our game away to Livingston which was supposed to be next week, is now rescheduled for Wednesday January 20th.
It’s strange how the Livingston game got rearranged first.
Especially when Celtic have had one of our games outstanding since August.

12 Dec 2020 16:01:37
Agreed buzz seems a no brained for me to use this midweek even if they had simply brought the Livingston game forward from Saturday to wednesday. In a selfish note though hopefully by the time we play all these games they're starting to let us back in.

11 Dec 2020 21:23:22
We have brought in French players over the last few years who have done well. I would like to see us try and sign 1 or 2 German players. I can only think of 3 we have had. Compper Thom and Hinkel. I watch a lot of German Football which I think is a better league than The Pub League with loads of technically gifted players and most games are free flowing attacking Football.

11 Dec 2020 22:14:33
Pud, we have a big enough and good enough squad to be doing far better than our current league position. If Lennon starts picking the right, team the only position needing strengthening would be our defence imo.

11 Dec 2020 23:07:30
We had Tolan who was iffy.

11 Dec 2020 23:21:01
German players will cost though they don’t go cheap .

11 Dec 2020 15:30:45
One thing that is doing us a turn now is the fixtures all the way to the split. Win the cup as a morale booster and only 2 fixtures which SHOULD cos us trouble is ibrox and away to killie. All other games are seriously winnable.

11 Dec 2020 17:46:00
Soro and Turnbull have got to start.

11 Dec 2020 19:16:39
One wee concern I still have is goalkeeper and defense. It was great to get a win, but we conceded another two - making 30 goals let-in since - and including the Sevco game and we need to sort this out.

11 Dec 2020 19:18:58
Agree 100%.

12 Dec 2020 01:01:25
I think up until Feb we have the easier run of fixtures so it's just all about grinding out wins and hopefully get back to form. They will drop points eventually we just need to concentrate on our own form for now and the gap will sort itself out.

11 Dec 2020 14:41:45
A couple of extra interesting facts about our historical 1966/ 67 season.
Most Celtic fans will know that Celtic won everything we entered that season and we only lost 3 competitive games.
Celtic lost both home and away to Dundee Utd 3-2 and we also lost away to Yugoslavian side Vojvodina in the European cup quarter final first leg 1-0 before Celtic won the return leg 2-0 to go through.
The Yugoslavian league had a winter break from January until March.
Celtic were due to play Vojvodina in March, so they played a friendly against another Yugoslavian club Dinamo Zagreb in February at Celtic Park.
Dinamo Zagreb actually won the friendly at Celtic Park scoring an 87th minute winner in front of 46,000 fans.
Also interestingly Dinamo Zagreb went on the win the 1966/ 67 Fairs Cup.
They beat Juventus in the quarters and then Eintracht Frankfurt, before they beat Leeds Utd 2-0 over two legs in the Final.
When both clubs played that friendly in February '67 I don't think they would've dreamed they would both go on to win a European trophy each 2 months later.
That friendly was the only other defeat Celtic suffered that season.
Celtic also beat Man Utd 4-1 in a friendly at the start of the season and Celtic also beat Real Madrid away 1-0 at the end of the season in a Testimonial.
A Season That Will Never Be Forgotten.

11 Dec 2020 15:01:50
Remember all those games buzz loved the man utd game should have been the euro final season before did we not win quiz ball that year mate?

11 Dec 2020 15:46:25
Was DeStefano testimonial, Real Madrid fans started shouting Ole every time Jinky beat a man, which was quite a lot. He was at his peak and the Spanish fans loved him.

11 Dec 2020 15:54:25
We certainly did win quizball Big Billy, Jim Craig, John Cairney and Willie Wallace (for the horse racing questions) ha ha. What a year!

11 Dec 2020 16:04:43
Your all showing your ages now. 😂.

11 Dec 2020 18:03:07
This last six months have aged all of us 😬.

12 Dec 2020 07:56:47
Spot on chasaboy.

11 Dec 2020 13:13:42
At a hastily arranged press conference after the win against Lille, Peter Lawwell appeared soaking wet to tell the media "I have just offered Neil Lennon a new ten year contract in the dressing rooms shower".

11 Dec 2020 11:33:00
It's only fair we sing the team's praises after last night when we've given them so much stick after poor results. More than the result, I was delighted with the character of the players to be pegged back twice and still win. Other games recently we'd have crumbled. One result doesn't change my feelings on the managerial situation but it's a great felling to see us winning and hopefully we can double down against Killie. I'd stick with Hazard, Soro and Turnbull and I'd keep Ajer at RB on Sunday. I'd be tempted to go with Griff up front as well.

11 Dec 2020 12:18:29
Agreed.

11 Dec 2020 13:13:05
Definitely Hazard, Soro and Turnbull all must start, but I'd put Eddie back in. If we want to win this title then we need him (fit and focused) more than anyone.

11 Dec 2020 13:47:01
I'd not play him. He's not showed effort or endeavour up until this point. Klimala has his limitations but his pressing makes opportunity. Ajeti put in a shift. I'd go with him Sunday.

11 Dec 2020 14:21:10
Eddy with turnbull supplying him would be different i think, definitely they all looked more hungry last night, just hope lenny sees that and doesn't go back to favorites again, really can't see ntcham getting back in unless injuries.

11 Dec 2020 15:03:43
Eddy gets too much stick, it's the midfield that's been wrong with this team, as I have been saying for ages, if the midfield is performing better, we need somebody up top to score goals, Klimala tries hard and is a hard working honest player but I don't think he is a natural goal scorer, Eddy, Ajeti and LG are, I would play Eddy and, or, one of the other two depending on the game.

11 Dec 2020 15:29:47
Eddy shouldn't get anywhere near our first team, he has done nothing in weeks he doesn't look interested when he is playing I would let him know that he is no longer first choice stick with the team that played well last night and give them a chance. Klimala ajeti and griff all need games and the all want to be here, so I would play them all before eddy.

11 Dec 2020 10:25:01
If lennon drops soro and turnbull then he deserves everything that comes . they should be certain started. Soro sees danger and deals with it and turnbull has a first touch out the top drawer and a great range of passing oh and he scores no over hit diagonals that go out the park.

11 Dec 2020 11:33:01
It all adds to the confusion and frustration as to why they have been virtually ignored since the start of the season?
Permutations between Brown, Cal-Mac, Christie, Rogic and Ntcham have all struggled and failed, while one lone striker has also been an issue with me, with so many variations available.
I agree that the game on Sunday will determine a few things.

11 Dec 2020 13:31:21
Lennon will pick the exact same team that played last weekend, Why?
Because he is just that stupid.

11 Dec 2020 13:50:04
Soro does what brown should be doing. He turns and releases the ball to our CAM Turnbull who then deals with it correctly. He was outstanding last night. Soro and Turnbull.

11 Dec 2020 18:13:34
Lennon should have been playing those players much earlier in the season he surely would have or should have seen them in training. And knew what they were like just another example of terrible management.

11 Dec 2020 09:12:28
As it stands Scotland are 0.425 co-efficient points ahead of Ukraine in the race for 11th place, which will guarantee CL football for next season’s Scottish Champions for season 2022/ 23.
Rangers are the only club left representing Scotland and will continue to receive 0.5 points a win and 0.25 points for a draw in the knockout stages.
Ukraine however have both Shahkar and Kiev representing them in the knockout stages and will receive only 0.4 points for a win and 0.2 points for a draw.
The difference in co- efficient points is Scotland only had 4 clubs representing them in Europe and UEFA gives each club 2 co-efficient points for a win.
That 2 points gets divided by 4 which becomes 0.5 co-efficient points for a win and 0.25 points for a draw.
Ukraine however had 5 clubs representing them and a 2 points win for them gets divided by 5 which becomes 0.4 points for a win and half of that for a draw.

11 Dec 2020 10:15:23
Buzz I would like to thank you for your knowledge and research that you bring to this page.

11 Dec 2020 11:07:14
Thank you Buzz for all the stats that you post, excellent work.

11 Dec 2020 07:10:45
Myself and a few on here have been banging the drum for soro and turnbull for weeks and look what they are capable of. so it's been poor management not to have played them or jobs for the bhoys. Both should start on Sun. young hazard did nothing wrong but he'll prob go with barkas.

11 Dec 2020 08:12:03
Problem is it they played well in a meaningless match with zero pressure.
Now Lenny has to decide if he sticks with them for Sunday which he should but how will Christie and Brown react in changing room.
With both playing 1st game from start in months both might not be fit enough to play again just a few days later.
Personally I think he will start Turnbull with either Brown or Christie replacing Soro.
Brown if he wants like for like Christie if he wants more attacking side unless he’s put out on left and Brown comes back in?

11 Dec 2020 08:37:12
Ther might have been zero pressure on us, but Lille were playing for top spot, so it was very competitive and credit where it's due. Obviously it doesn't have any bearing on our season as such, but it's a much needed win after such a shocking run if results/ performances.
Now, the real test comes on Sunday to see if lessons have finally been learned as NL must be on his last 'life' as manager?

11 Dec 2020 08:52:23
the game might have been a dead rubber for us GG but it was not for lille who wanted to win the group so we gave a great performance against a good lille side coming to win the match.

11 Dec 2020 09:24:44
Enjoyed last nights game match and scoreline is what football was designeous for not 8/ 9/ 10/ sometimes 11 men being the ball back to the spl on sun ah well! Hh.

11 Dec 2020 10:02:42
There may not have been a lot of pressure on the young lads last night but they did so well that if Lenny drops them for Sunday then there'll be even more pressure on him. HH.

11 Dec 2020 10:22:14
So there was no pressure on the biys who came in to do well. not having that eff first bit of hope a season and it's getting slated jeez.

11 Dec 2020 10:43:17
Watching Soro last night he reminded me of Wanyama, strong in the challenge winning everything it wasn’t till McCoist highlighted his performance that I realised just how much of a shift he put in and like McCoist I think he was man of the match .

11 Dec 2020 00:14:28
Not Celtic related but just heard Marcus Rashford talking about staying with Man U for the rest of his career and the reasons why he’d like to do that. what a well rounded young man.

11 Dec 2020 07:30:39
What a healthy bank balance.

11 Dec 2020 08:05:53
Yes, knows, who is going to pay him most.

11 Dec 2020 08:25:00
Aye. ::. cynics😂.

10 Dec 2020 23:36:20
I only seen the 1st half tonight but what player do you guys think was least missed tonight from the usual starters.

11 Dec 2020 00:24:39
Celtic will continue to struggle if they play teams that play a low block camp in you seen tonight we have players who can play. But we need a physical type player up top especially for the league. Time for some players to go next month we all know who but I'm happy tonight good honest performance.

I liked Soro my type of player but how many of those challenges will he make on Sunday. Turnbull head up all night strong and quick Griffiths playing on top form tonight we could have had a few more clear the decks and get players who are hungry.
Au revoir
HH.

11 Dec 2020 00:36:26
I think the obvious answer is Scott Brown.
He’s been an amazing servant to Celtic.
We’ve been trying for years to bring in his replacement,
starting with Kouassi which didn’t work out and then Lawwell missed out on McGinn.
For Celtic to still be relying on a 35 year old Scott Brown to be starting every week and somehow expect the same consistent dominant performances,
is too much to ask.
It was refreshing to see a young man like Soro putting in a performance tonight that Scott Brown himself would’ve been proud off.

11 Dec 2020 08:25:55
Christie for me wasn’t missed. In the 1st half anyway! . Thoughts?

11 Dec 2020 10:02:57
Its strange but not surprising that it has taken this long for the Celtic manager to see what a lot on here have been saying for months and it has proved the point that we do have good players ones that would have at least the points deficit a lot less than what it is just now IF only we has a good manager in place.