Celtic Banter Archive April 11 2014

11 Apr 2014 22:50:10
I've been bored all night and sitting think what goes through NL's head before a campaign starts I mean he buys a big target man in balde never starts the boy and plays a diamond which restricts wide areas/ balls in the box, if we're going to play a diamond we should but sutable players for it!, I would like to see us go for the attacking mod that I'm always on about maybe aaron hunt from werder bremen and a striker with a big of quality, still maybe finnboagson ( should push the boat out and get the boy!) And also another striker to partner him! Not sure who with that one. ED or anyone have any thoughts/rumours about who we'll go for?

I wonder what goes through some people's minds before they post . Someone who has won three SPLs in a row, yet still he is treated by a few as if he hadn't a notion .

I like NL and I think he knows his stuff but I just feel there has been a lot of signings that have done nothing for the club we should be signing quality not quantity

Chris that post makes no sense lol a monkey could a won the league this season and last season with no competition. your saying he's won 3 spl's in a row and should credit that's fair enough but then what about his abysmal domestic cup record includin getting beat at home 2 morton who takes the blame for that? who takes the blame for the predictable play style we have? what about the favourtism towards players? what about no youth being brought through apart from henderson for a few games and fisher? what about the clear tactical naivety? what about dud signings and signings getting hardly any game time

To the best of my knowledge it happens at every club . Look at Chelsea they gave £50m or more for Torres . Liverpool £32m for Carroll . Clubs buy players regularly who cannot make it at their new club . More important to look at the very many excellent players Lennon and his scouts have unearthed. Those players are the players who win the trophies for you.

{Ed007's Note - Chelsea didn't give anyone £50m or more for Torres and Carroll never cost £32m, he cost £35m and Liverpool didn't pay that either.
What trophies did Bangura win for us, Pukki or Balde, Lassad and Miku etc etc.}

Gunnie boy., your post makes no sense whatsoever . Are you a Lennon hater or a Celtic hater? No manager has been threatened and abused anything like Lennon. The performance last season in the Champions League for one of the best ever from as poor a league as the SPL . He took Celtic over when it was a shambles, poor team, rising debt . Now a good team and money available for a rainy day . There is nobody so blind as the man who doesn't want to see.

I have to agree with gunniebhoy, Lennon is tactically inept, Barca was was a great result then we have this season, ac and Ajax were there for the taking and we blew it, got gubbed By Barca, lost to the almighty Morton, dumped out by Aberdeen, plays a diamond whe. We have wingers, for ages played a useless Sammy who is running his contact down, played florist in a diamond which is stupid, buys a target man doesn't use him, sells wanyama, Hooper, and doesn't replace with equal or better quality, as for the winning three leagus in a row, that like me saying yea I won the Thai fights in a row but was against the 10 year olds

@Chris typical comeback mate anyone who has any criticism is instantly a celtic or lennon hater lol. I'v never rated him as a manager am going 2 hide that just cause he's won 3 spl's in a row its clear 2 see at times he's no got a clue

@gunniebhoy I agree mate. Would be interesting to see how this group of fans would react if it was mowbray in charge and he won 3 in a row with an abysmal cup record. This group would be calling for his head. Good old lennon blinkers, clouding some peoples judgement due to emotional attachment

It's disappointing to know that Celtic is the only club to buy players who turn out to be of little value . I could have sworn other clubs did the same . The editor proved me wrong about Torres and Carroll, but most reasonable football fans would get my drift that both were much bigger wastes of money ( ten times and more ) than any buys from Lennon . I think anyone other than some one who doesn't like Lennon would agree by and by Lennon has been very successful in the transfer market .

{Ed007's Note - The Torres/Carroll deals were certainly very expensive wastes of money Chris, it was just the way the deals were set up and paid for that confuses people.}

I just think any poster who posts a list of the unsuccessful buys and ignores the brilliant buys has either a hatred of Lennon or some other agenda . To talk about Lennon going missing after the Celtic won the title on the earliest date that any living club is nonsense . Lennon has shown by back to back Champions League qualification and by the brilliant performance last season in attaining a club record of 10 points that he has what is needed. However some people will never be satisfied .

{Ed007's Note - But you have to admit that on the pitch the team is going backwards, look at this season's domestic cups and this season's CL campaign. If you are mentioning the record 10 points what about also equalling our worst ever European defeat this year? Is that what's needed?
This season can not be seen as a success when we have won less than last year, we seriously flopped in both cups, one to lower league opposition and to not even contest a final without any strong financial opposition can't just be swept under the carpet.
Surely the money spent on Pukki, Balde and now Griffiths would have been better invested in one striker of proven quality?
Look at the style of play, it is boring and predictable and the dwindling crowds at CP show that fans are losing interest and there is nothing on show to entice them, teams who play an expansive fluid attacking game will always entertain the fans which encourages them to attend, they enjoy watching the team play. And if you don't enjoy doing something how can the board expect you to fork out their hard earned budo to do it.
As a manager the only people who actually rate Lennon is CFC fans, by his own admission no teams in England have ever contacted him or the club regarding hiring him, not even Championship teams, why do you think that is?}

I don't have to admit anything of the kind . No Country in Europe treats domestic cups with any importance . Celtic fans spoke with their feet was it less than 10,000 at the Morton game and 30,000 at the Dons match . I think winning the league at the earliest date that any living club ever has more merits . I think the new buys last summer except Virgil were slow to settle and with the January additions we may well now have the best team for years . It's not Lennon's fault the Rangers cheated themselves into oblivion, although the thought of the people fans biggest ever target of abuse, achieving success at Celtic ensured SDM increased his EBT cheating in a poor attempt to stop Lennon been a winner at Celtic . 8 SPL titles later as a player, captain and manager and all Lennon has to win over is a small vocal number of Internet neds .

{Ed007's Note - Good to see you keeping up your high standards of complete garbage Chris. EBTs to stop Lennon, really? And it is a lot more than a few internet neds that are not happy with Lennon, perhaps someone on the board has possibly raised concerns about his ability to move the club forward. What has Rangers cheating got to do with anything NL has done as manager unless you are saying if Rangers didn't go down the tubes they would have won the first title NL did when they were 15 points clear and forced to sell Jelavic?}

That dear editor is a load of nonsense . The e.c. Defeat you mentioned was in a game of little more importance than a mid season friendly . Its easy to talk about bringing in a better striker, how do you know that higher rated strikers refused to come . SPL hasn't that much going for it . Playing expansive football is a wonderful concept . Wave a magic wand and everyone in Scotland will play that way . Un the other hand if one team decides to play four defenders on their 18 yard line and another 4/5 seven or eight yards in front this wonderful expansive game you talk about is no where to be seen . Two teams have to have some degree of positivity so that one team can play expansive . Its difficult to enjoy Celtic play, if you set your mind against enjoying Celtic play .

{Ed007's Note - I have no idea what you are talking about here, sorry.}

Tell us the name of the Director who reckons its time to move Lennon on .

Your source, oh. The Daily Record must be true .

{Ed007's Note - I don't bother reading papers so once again, I have no idea what you are talking about. Why don't you actually try and make a valid point instead of acting like a petulant kid, you're boring me.
Tell me who told you NL was a great manager, Oh the Celtic View, it must be true!}

@chris02 aye mate. 12 out of 44 lennon signings have been good. let's forget about the vast majority of duds signed cause he's "celtic minded". we will forget about juarez, bangura, pukki, balde and boerigter costing approx £13m and basically written off cause lennon got £12m for wanyama. absolute f*d, you are arguable the most deluded poster on this site for questioning why lennon must go.

{Ed007's Note - That's far more eloquently put than I could hope to do DN30.}

@ed007 I was shocked when I read the thread. Absolute tunnel vision at its best from chris lol

{Ed007's Note - Do you think his mam bought him one of 'The Gaffer's calendars at Christmas and do you think the pages are stuck together on it?}

You Mr Ed referred to someone on the board wanting Lennon to move on .

Oh sorry you were only saying perhaps

So perhaps not . Now that's all very stupid wasn't it .

I don't rely on any publication to decide whether I support Celtic, or the odd wee bit or pieces. Neil Lennon is our manager and is doing a damn good job.
If that makes me out to be a freak, what would you call a Celtic supporter who only supports the club when he has all his heroes lined up in position .

{Ed007's Note - NL is doing 'a damn good job' in your opinion, other people disagree. I happen to be one of them as do some people who have a lot more influence than you or me.
I'd call a supporter who only supports the team with all his heroes lined up (or managing the team) Chris or Christine, a lot of women also only like football because they fancy men attached to a club.}

@ed007 lmao stuck on lennons month lol

Lets not forget the fans who support Google FC.

No raw passion, emotion or opinion

@18. don't need "google fc" to build a case against lennon. Something new creeps up on a regular basis

@19 (seeing as we are calling one another numbers) I don't mean you!

The Internet takes the 'rawness' out of being a fan which is quite boring. Some take about a week to form an opinion for whatever reason. Whatever happened to just reacting to the game? This is perfectly normal and has been since Celtic were formed 126 years ago.

A wee bit off tangent from Neil Lennon the Manager but sometimes you just can't beat no phones and no Internet for real opinion.

11 Apr 2014 21:48:30
Reading the posts on here about who we should be getting rid of at the end of the season and the one name that comes up again and again is Balde, Why? What has this guy done wrong since he came? He scores every time he gets longer than 5 mins on the park. I really think this guy should be given a decent amount of games before people talk of wanting rid. What I've seen of him he looks the real deal, the type of player defenders hate playing against, big strong and awkward and seems to be able to stick the ball in the net

Dont know about the real deal mate but I have backed him as I think there is something in there.It is ridiculous, with a league sewn up, he is not starting games, I find Lennys attitude to this very annoying.

I'm with you here Stevie, Balde hasn't put a foot wrong. Looks rough round the edges but he's a young lad in an alien country still learning the language. I think he could be a cracking player if given half a chance!

I've backed the big man and I too find Lennon really annoying on this subject and a few other players too

Why do you find Lennon annoying? It is obvious that Balde is not capable of performing in the SPL. Lennon has a better chance of knowing that than you or me, he sees him daily at training . Balde may eventually be good enough but he isn't ready yet . The fact that Danny Mc Grain spent half time intervals working with him shows two things to me . One he isn't ready and two Danny thinks there is a player there or he wouldn't waste his time on him .

12 Apr 2014 10:36:56
Chris why did we sign him then? Our scouting team must have watched him in real game time at his previous club and thought he was good enough to splash decent money on.There are many players who look rotten in training but can perform when it matters and vice versa. Just play the guy then we can judge

@stevie problem with balde is, he has never had a run of games to help settle in. Pointless signing him if he is not going to get chance

We wouldn't be the first club who have signed a player and when he arrives at a new club in a new country with a different climate, takes a long time to settle in . In fact sometimes they never settle in the new team . Other players come in and be absolute stars, it is part of the gamble or risk involved .

11 Apr 2014 16:39:24
@ED 007; I seen you commenting on the fact sevco are narrowing the pitch for the Utd game, this surely must be against the rules?

For this game the dustbowl is regarded as a neutral venue, the SFA hire it lock stock and barrell, so they would not be allowed to do this would they? This is blatant cheating. As far as I am aware you can have any pitch dimension you like, inside the regulated minimum and maximum, but tomorrow the SFA own the dustbowl not sevco.If I was Utd I would be having words about this.

{Ed007's Note - The rules aren't exactly clear GJ. I was talking to Ed001 about it and he says it could be because Sevco play on a wider pitch and the SFA want them to narrow it to become more neutral. If I was Utd I would certainly be questioning it, if nothing else it would really p**s off the Zombies.}

11 Apr 2014 15:19:53
If sevco had won the chippy cup we would have been treated to endless pics of elbows and sneaky posing with the 'trophy' to sell season books.

What they have slumped to is alex mcdonald, an arch Celtic hater by the way, posing with a board! Make the most of these days Tims the laughter will stop eventually!

{Ed007's Note - While you're on about rat-face McCulloch, did you see he said he never even touched Kayal? Have a look at the pic on the sightings page here It's from a different angle than has been all over the press.
Plus if he made 'no contact with him whatsoever' and is supposedly such a big 'hard-man', why the hell is he rolling about on the ground like he'd just been punched in the mouth in Hamilton Palace again?

Because he's a sneaky, thick coward.I saw he claimed the pic he saw showed he never touched him so we can add that he must be visually impaired to the list as well.

What makes me laugh if the sevconians who rattle on about his 'loyalty', if he was twenty five would he have TUPE'd over? I doubt it.

{Ed007's Note - No a cat in Hell's chance. He knew where his bread was buttered, when he TUPEd over he kept the same contract that he was on when at his old club. No other team anywhere would have paid him the same money.}

When you look back at the time when the Sevconians called it the rats fleeing from the sinking ship, The good players who knew they had a future in the game quite rightly in my opinion, sought other clubs to play for. What you were left with were the dross and worse than that, Jig McElbows. This clown knew he wasn't going anywhere as no other club would have touched him. Now he's lorded over by the ibrokes peepul as the loyal servant who chose to stay and fight the cause. Just show's how deluded they are round Govan way! It will be interesting to see how DK's season ticket scenario plays out now they've got Gough on board. Admin 2 is probably now a formality.

Now I see why they call you the Editor! ;)

{Ed007's Note - I've been called worse Rab, a lot worse!}

11 Apr 2014 07:08:54
Hi guys, reading in between the lines on the news that the co-op bank could end up bursting, would that have any effect on Celtic financially?

Why? The debt would transfer to whoever buys them in the worst case scenario