Celtic Banter Archive May 10 2016

10 May 2016 22:06:39
Do you guys think fringe players will be given a chance before new manger decides who goes and who stays.
Up front for example, will Stokes be given a chance? Scepovic even?
I know about half a dozen midfielders need to be moved on but I agree with Lennon that we have the bones of a good squad.

Gordon
Lustig or Janko
Sviatchenko
Simunovic
Tierney.

(Mulgrew, Fisher, new left back new centre half)

Midfield 4
Brown, Armstrong, Roberts, Biton
Henderson, Christie, rogic, megregor

On trial, Allan, Forrest, GMS, Commons, johanson, Ajer

Up front
Griffiths plus two
On trial stokes, scepovic, Nesbit, CKR

I think a good manager might get players like johanson back to his best but fear more of a dressing room split and the damage maybe done!

I would give everyone a chance but look to offload about half a dozen not to mention the certainties like ambrose, cifti, and a fond farewell to emilio, he goes with my thanks and best wishes.

Exciting times ahead!

10 May 2016 22:58:49
We need to move players out of club . pointless giving Commons and Stokes a trial, neither have the skills or respect for club to get another chance . If we keep these two we will have trouble not far away . Do u not think Forrest has been with us long enough to know that he can't be bothered doing it . Sceptovic clearly doesn't want to be in Scotland .

11 May 2016 00:17:13
I think new. managers have their own ideas and prefer to bring players they can trust from previous experience or guys who they see as an improvement - finance permitting
Unfortunately RD never brought in enough quality and the previous managers players never bought into his ideas.
To be honest guys like Commons, Stokes, Forrest and Izzy have shot their bolt so to speak, while others like Johansen and Lustig may well feel it's time for a change or don't fancy the new boss.
Blacket, Cole and Ciftci seem to be in limbo, whereas,
Allen, Christie and Baily have not had a chance to show?
Scepovic and Janko don't seem to fancy Glasgow so it does leave room for hopefully better additions.

11 May 2016 00:40:56
For me Stokes, Cole, Ciftci, Scepovic, Commons, Forrest, Ambrose should all be first gone. I hope we sell Biton and Johansen for extra transfer funds, Ed said Janko wants away, Blacketts loan is expiring, I'm sure both Mulgrew and Fisher are out of contract and there is word Izzy is away too. So hopefully we get a couple of versatile defenders one that can play LB/ LCB and one that can play RB/ RCB so we are well covered. A strong DM should be priority too. The new managers biggest decision is who is his best CM/ CAM between Rogic, Armstrong, Brown, Christie, Ajer, Allan, Henderson, because Roberts will be out wide and we need a new LM that's better than GMS so some of them midfielders will need to be loaned or sold too.

11 May 2016 09:00:26
After watching the Hibs/ Falkirk game hope Liam Henderson gets a chance to shine. Cracking wee prospect.

11 May 2016 12:05:24
He seems to have excelled at both loan clubs in recent seasons and I agree he deserves a chance as he is better than some at the club now and there will be a few leaving.
Incidentally it seems that Hibs were also victims of one of these frequent 'honest mistakes' that haunt Celtic games.
The referee watched the Falkirk defender roll the ball along the ground with his hand, in the area and waved play-on!

11 May 2016 12:16:15
Stokes given a chance? He's had plenty of chances IMO. I'd ship him ASAP.

11 May 2016 12:20:50
Henderson is twice the player and younger than most of the midfielders presently at the club. Another bonkers decision whoever sanctioned it to let him go on loan so we could pay money to get Scott Allan when Henderson is a better player! Madness

11 May 2016 13:26:08
Always seen Henderson as Brown's long term replacement and now looks to be about the right time to do just that. He can pass, cross and shoot a lot better than Brown and is m9re creative and a goal threat than Brown has ever been.

11 May 2016 15:20:51
I have said a few times that I thought the Allan signing was pointless because we had better players at our club.
Both rogic and henderson are far better players in my opinion.
Christie though he hasn't had much of a chance I still rated higher after his time at ICT.
Mcgregor I also rate higher after his time in England and in our team.

11 May 2016 16:11:00
Kev83 I haven't seen much of Henderson this season and didn't see much of Allan last season but didn't Henderson pretty much emulate this season what Scott Allan did last season? I'm not at the wind up btw, it just seems that both of them did really well for a season in the Championship but only one seems to be rated as any good. Obviously I do realise that Henderson is a few years younger.

11 May 2016 16:22:37
Kevbhoy henderson also went on loan to rosenborg bk played 9 score 3 and helped them win the league.
Has played in Europa league last 32 with us setting up the 3rd goal with a sublime first time chip over the Inter defence.
And like you said heshe almost five years younger and getting better.
What has Allan really done of note?

11 May 2016 18:14:49
Not much but I don't think he's really been given the chance, even when our other players ie Johanson, Bitton, Brown and GMS were underperforming. I'd like to see him at least get an opportunity when we've got CKR playing most weeks.

10 May 2016 21:30:26
If Keane going to be the new manager we need get behind him and the team need give him good time get things right.

10 May 2016 22:10:05
I think it's going to be Alex Neil.

10 May 2016 23:01:41
Of course we need to get behind R Keane or whoever is our new manager . Too many fans on forums and in the stands turned their back on R D and some players . When we r all united we can be very, very good .

10 May 2016 23:56:33
You're getting it the wrong way round, Oldbhoy.

10 May 2016 18:15:33
heres a question. why is it that the younger celtic teams i. e development etc are always blowing away opposition and doing well in youth european leagues etc yet we never really see any of them. they must be A. playing well as a unit and B. have a certain amount of talent. do they get kidnapped at 18?

10 May 2016 19:10:36
Rumours are that an appointment will be made on monday.

10 May 2016 18:28:51
The demand from the fans, both rightly and wrongly, makes it a very pressurised situation for the man picking the side.

10 May 2016 18:51:41
Great point! But between then and first team gap? Every manager is under so much pressure in the past to win that they never make it and leave . Without ( dare I say Rangers? ) it has been less pressure and wee Tierney has broke through . Although there should be many more than him imo.

10 May 2016 19:37:44
Where u hearing these rumours about Monday marco? A few people have mentioned this big announcement on Monday! Really can't see us getting anyone in that quick. not with the way Lawell and the rest work! It will be dragged out as is the norm with them!

10 May 2016 21:07:04
We need a manager who is not afraid to take a chance on youth, the potential of the youth teams is often wasted because managers are too conservative, and rely on favourite older "safer"established members of the first team, because they know if the team plays badly these players will take most of the flak, and the manager will get less criticism as he picked the "best"players, while the truth might well be better players were languishing in reserves.

10 May 2016 21:33:15
Aindoh our fans would never give a manager enough leeway to blood a few youngsters. It's just the nature of the beast in this country I'm afraid. KT has made the jersey his own and next season we might see Henderson get a chance but that's probably about it. Obviously Roberts is still a teenager but he's not exactly ours.

10 May 2016 22:59:39
Beav a don't think they can drag it out this time if they want to sell season tickets any time soon. Think most people want to see the boards commitment before we part with our hard earned cash. Fairs fair

10 May 2016 23:06:01
Kevbhoy it's not often that a team, that is challenging for the Championship has more than two and at the very most three teenagers in their team
Remember Hanson told us years ago that you can't win anything with kids.

11 May 2016 00:26:52
I heard a rumour a few days ago that Brendan Rodgers had been offered the job. Then I heard that an announcementioned would be made this Monday. Probably because the league finishes on Sunday. So we are free to make an appointment from then as Rd will be away. Well that's if rds contract doesn't run until the 1st June that is.

11 May 2016 07:50:55
Teams going for a championship very rarely have any teenagers in the team Old Bhoy, never mind 2 or 3.

10 May 2016 16:21:23
If what we are hearing is true. Roy Keane as next Celtic Manager then the Celtic circus continues hardly a great appointment but the type of mediocre player we have at the moment someone like Keane maybe the motivation needed to bring them on.

My Guessing is he will be fedup by Christmas of the goldfish bowl the dodgy hacks Andy Walkers bull shit and the abuse from the night walkers.

He will need a good back room team which will be the most important appointment.

Time will tell hope it works out its never going to be long term switch which is why historically as a club we mess things up The jungle drums beat for change far too often.
Hail Hail Amigos.

10 May 2016 06:41:48
I'm not sure why their are so many fans that are against collins the last time i seen people celebrate someone leaving this much was Jock Brown, I didn't think Collins was the best man for the assistant job but he got it and prob done the best he can and maybe that wasnt good enough no need to celebrate him leaving.

10 May 2016 08:13:22
There are a lot of rumours about him being two faced and causing disruption within the club and also undermining Ronny.

10 May 2016 09:17:36
It's rumours kev not necessarily facts if you've heard them then surely Ronny has heard them? If he thought he was being undermined then tell us why Ronny would talk highly of Collins and give him big hugs? IMO it was the tactics/ selections by Ronny that got players disheartened and Ronny admitted he had too many players to keep them all happy not necessarily the coaches fault. I wonder if Kennedy is going to go as he was part of our defensive failings or is he the golden child with no failings.

10 May 2016 09:52:29
I must admit that I liked the thought of Collins coming in with RD. someone who could get across the demands of the job and what the clubs all about, but it just hasn't worked out. but people on here celebrating JC leaving is bang out of order in my opinion. all this I've heard rumours this and rumours about that, without actually knowing hee haw! This guy was a great servant for us through some tough times and he's came in and tried the best he could! Think he deserves a little bit more respect than what he's getting to be honest! Yes him and RD didn't work but to try and blame him for it not working is garbage! And if he was undermining RD so much then why was he touting him as his replacement last week?

10 May 2016 10:34:46
Is there any ex players the Celtic fans like these days? it seems everyone apart from Henrik gets abuse. loved watching Collins and McStay together they gave their all and scored many a great goal in an unsuccesful Celtic team. My first Old Firm was the 2-1 win at CP when Collins and Paton scored, watched the game on VHS so many times, Collins 7th goal of the season on the 37th minute. Stepped inside Murray and gave Goram no chance. Says Gerry McNee. Regardless of opinion or rumour you won't find me saying anything bad about the man. Maybe this week Collins should tell the players not to bother doing extra ball work and go have some burgers and pepsi instead. That might get us back into last 16 of Champions League.

10 May 2016 10:38:43
Everything about Collins is tattle tales and gossip. To give someone such a hard time for that is a poor show. There never seemed any unrest between RD and JC.

10 May 2016 11:23:41
Don't think there was unrest with jc and Rd. I think the unrest was with jc and some of the players.

10 May 2016 12:16:37
Marco
Why do you think this?

10 May 2016 12:22:40
Delighted JC is going along with RD. Good riddance to both. Combined they have taken us backwards for two years.

10 May 2016 15:26:39
The vast majority of us will never know what went on and a lot of the rumours would have been based on his spate with Scott Brown at hubs and the antics of Commons.
In his recent interview he did admit that the team were very disappointing in 'the bigger games' and for a team like Celtic, that is unacceptable and why they both had to go.
Hopefully some of the under-performing players that let themselves, the club and support down will also 'bolt'!

10 May 2016 15:32:51
He had a history of causing upset at hibs. And our captain was there when he was so 2+2 and all that.