Celtic Banter Archive January 10 2015

 

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10 Jan 2015 23:01:16
For the guys out there who can't seem to see anything wrong with the current set up please let me know exactly what has improved this season? Are the team creating more chances, scoring more goals, winning more matches etc?

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Is not being in europe knock out stages and all cup competitions not hood enough for you?

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Mars Bars are out, Apples are in. Surely that's an improvement.

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Oot side the front door lmfao! it is a big improvement on last season (y)

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10 Jan 2015 23:53:10
The other teams in our league have pretty much a had a settled side now for a couple of years. It's kind of a sure thing that they were going to improve over the course of those years as is the case this year. Celtic on the other hand have been going through a transition period, once we click and get momentum, we'll be top of the table come the end of the season. Quit your whinging till the seasons over HH

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11 Jan 2015 00:16:57
@4, is that you Ronny? How's the weather in GC

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@5, We are all Ronny Deila

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Never mind Stevie look on the bright side it is past 02's Bedtime :-)

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11 Jan 2015 00:52:03
@6 is that you Pedro? Hows the heated driveway bearing up under this cold snap?

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Pmsl I meant ed sorry

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{Ed007's Note - ?

Niallh if you want to be negative and unsupportive, that's fine enjoy the company of the Scottish media .

Stevie, do you get your kicks from sourcing your gibs from the Daily Record .?

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11 Jan 2015 01:43:04
Don't read that rag Chrissy bhoy, I think I heard the pedro/ heated driveway quote for the first time off Ed 007 some time ago

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@2) made me dribble my cuppa.
@3) that just added to it and caused a nasal spray.

Very good bhoys.

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Chris02

I think you need to ask someone to remove the wool that has been pulled over your eyes are you clearly aren't clever enough to do it yourself.

I like everyone on this site am desperate for Celtic to succeed but I won't blindly follow like a lemming when there are clearly issues.

I am also desperate for RD to succeed and I have supported every manager regardless of background but we need to start improving ot we will win nothing this season regardless of the point that we are in 4 competitions.

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@ 12) Thanks JT a do try (y)

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10 Jan 2015 21:57:34
Just thought I would get ppls thoughts on this - Shaun Maloney is supposedly a target for celtic at £1m now at 31 years of age celtic are willing to spend that money on someone we will get 2 -3 years max out of and can't possibly tell if it going to work out plus the fact that he has a tendency to get injured a lot! Now kris commons has performed excellent over the last 2-3 years imo and celtic are only willing to offer a 1 year deal even though he was our top goal scorer and player of the year last year, now I could understand if this was an age issue for the 1 year offer but the fact that the Maloney rumour has surfaced and our manager has confirmed ( kind of ) it and he is the very same age makes me wonder wtf is going on I would rather see that money either go towards new contract for commons or spend the money on a bright youth player that at some point we will have a resale value on . What's your thoughts ed??

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{Ed007's Note - It's a strange one, Tam, I'm not a great fan of Commons but I'd take him over Maloney any day. Has PL asked Commons to take a wage cut as well as the short-term deal? He tried it with Samaras last year so perhaps Maloney's wage demands are less than Commons.}

Ed, surely it would be only in the club's interest to offer Commons no longer than a one year deal at reduced money.
This season Commons has only had one decent game and we are now in January .
In that game Commons fired shots all over the place but never once attempted to pass to a team-mate who was in a better position than him .

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{Ed007's Note - Read back through the posts, I've made my feelings on Commons quite clear over the last four years. He's needing to get that wife of his under control, her talking about club business on social media is unacceptable.}

It's a great point Chris. He's always struggled for consistency throughout his career. He's on a low at the moment and running down his contract. Then, as you say, the Kilmarnock game. Suddenly there's a wave of people demanding a two year deal, off of one game. One poor game! I must get the same dodgy reception as you because I also watched somebody miss hance after chance and not take opportunities to pass.

Great point also Ed, she does some good work credit due but also the self-annointed Mrs. Celtic!

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His missus could be on his case not to sign a years contract, hold off.

It defys logic signing Maloney. He is at the end of career, it would be more realistic signing commons on a 2 year deal.

Its crucial players are signed this window

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10 Jan 2015 17:27:53
For all the fans worried about Brown's injury today, manager has confirmed it was a cut that needed stitches but they hope he will be fit for next weekend.

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10 Jan 2015 17:26:28
So what's the story with this 11 goals scoring MF Michael Duffy 20 years old? Boy a potential future star or cheaper Option?

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He is a player for the future, whether he is better than we have, will probably depend on his work rate and lifestyle in the coming years .,

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Long term project I would say. Wing forward with goals in him - exactly the kind of player RD will be wanting to develop.

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10 Jan 2015 15:43:07
Just putting this out there, a lot of comments noted that Celtic have been poor and at times cannot disagree BUT Aberdeen have performed superbly this year and had we not beaten them twice then they would be further ahead.

I still expect them to falter soon enough but it shows what happens when a squad is put together and kept with the 1 or 2 additions.

It's imperative we get players now for a proper attempt to qualify for champions league and to get a more confident and consistent start to the new season.

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Thats the whole point the moaners miss, them and Dundee Utd have improved considerably. Throw in a good forward looking manager like Hartley at Dundee and things have got tougher.This during a period of rebuilding for us.

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I don't think that the poor performances against Inverness, Dundee, Motherwell, Hamilton, Ross County etc, has got much to do with Aberdeen or Dundee United being any better than last season.
I just think we played rotten in those games.

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Gerryc, still wanting to instill new confidence in Deila's squad . You don't seem to mention any of our better performances, I wonder why?

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Gerry can see your point but what I am saying is Aberdeen have same system and players bar Goodwillie and Taylor.

We have a new manager, training methods, system and 4 loan players plus Scepovic. We win our games in hand we are top despite an overhaul compared to last year.

Nothing won yet but just imagine what happens when RD gets everything in place. Could be Champ Lge instead of Europa after Christmas, now that would be something to look forward too

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10 Jan 2015 18:56:15
Chris you don't seem to have a clue what is expected of a Celtic side and you still haven't confirmed what I asked in a post last week if the 02 is the year you were born. If you are that young let me educate you. We are Glasgow Celtic, domestically we don't settle for second best and accept a couple of good performances a season, we play to the final whistle and are famed for our last minute winning goals.We don't expect to win every game domestically every team has a bad day at the office, but we expect to win the vast majority of our games with a bit of style, any Celtic team that fails to meet those standards the personnel should expect to be replaced pretty rapidly.

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Chris what do you mean, you wonder why I don't mention the good performances?
I always come on after a good result/performance and say well done.
You seem to believe that there should be absolutely no questions asked, about anything the club says or does, you seem to be very naive.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with fans questioning things that happen at our club, otherwise the club will never listen.
You may think that you are only a true supporter if you swallow everything the club says, but all it does is allows standards to fall.
I can't see how wanting the standards of the club to be maintained or improved, is not being a true supporter

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Hi Kev T that Aberdeen team that we have beaten twice first one it took a Commons deflected goal to win, in the away game it took a Johansen deflected goal and a last minute goal to take the points mate

It is just as well we won with these narrowest of margins because if we had not we would be TEN points behind Aberdeen and if RD was not out then the Vultures would have been for sure ATVB JB7

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Anno jamiebhoy but likewise in the if and buts situation we have lost many deflected goals and dropped points in games we completely dominated

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A hear you Kev mate but maybe that is the problem pal the first 15 games or so WE were winning with deflected goals t

A had never seen a Celtic team carry that much luck as you say we are normally the victim of that Aberdeen ( twice ) Si Mirren, Dundee, Motherwell, Rekyavic? and Warsaw & that is just off the top of my head mate atvb jb7

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Stevie I did reply to your query about my age or year of birth, the moderator seemed to think it was unimportant and didn't bother posting it .
By the way the team I support is Celtic and I try my best to encourage and help the manager and the players at all time . I know that concept is foreign to you .

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Gerry, people like you are just waiting to have a go at Deila and the players . When we were on a ten game winning run, the comments were few and far between . We were robbed against DU, hopeless against Ross County but the shower at Partick thistle opened the flood gates against Deila and his team . A bit of respite against Killie and then again today after a meaningless friendly
What's the point how could today's game or performance be of any meaning .

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Jamiebhoy with your ifs and buts, surely if your granny had balls she would have been...

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Chris my point is nothing to do with today's game, it was a reply to the point that Aberdeen and Dundee United, are much stronger this season, and that's why they are closer to us, I disagree with this and feel it's because our standards on the park that have dropped.
If you read my posts, you will see I very rarely mention the manager, I think the problem at the club has been a lack of investment in the squad, and a desire to make a profit at the expense of everything else.
If Ronny Deila is so affected by anything a mere fan says on a banter site, then to be brutally honest, he is in the wrong profession.

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12) Chris do you look @ life as a glass half full? half empty? or half its contents?

Or does your mammy no trust you yet with the glasswear and still make you drink out of plastic cups?

PS I asked you a similar question to . Stevie I asked if 02 was your shoe size or your IQ Ed let you answer me so am surprised he curbed you at that attempt? Maybe Ed can expand?

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{Ed007's Note - Because stupid comments like that just dragg things down to childish bickering.}

10 Jan 2015 22:43:13
Chris believe me I am desperate for Ronny/Celtic to succeed and I said in an earlier post that I will only be too happy to accept pelters if this season is a success, the impression I get when reading your posts is that you think it would be acceptable if we don't win the title this season, in my book this scenario is unimaginable and would be our clubs biggest failure ever. If you say you have seen improvement in performances since the start of the season then that's just p.! what is really worrying is our manager said a few months ago You"ll see real improvement in a couple of months, now this promise seems to be put back till February. At least in previous disastrous seasons under Venglos, Barnes and Mowbray we've managed to finish 2nd ahead of Dundee utd, Aberdeen etc.

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Jamiebhoy, I forgive you for mocking and sneering at my mother who is dead over 20 years .
I can assure you, not that it is any business of yours that there is no 2 I the year I was born .
What I find more difficult to know is how been negative posting abusive hate posts regarding manager and /or players is meant to improve our club .
Some person posted that he didn't blame Deila he blamed the board . Surely Celtic are recruiting more expensive players and are paying a higher wage bill than our Spl so called ( competitors)

All we can do as supporters, is support and encourage the manager and players, maybe even the board . Angry posts, angry shouts at players isn't going to make a difference . Wise up and get away from your key board, look at the love the away fans have at varies stadiums a round Scotland Deila is a God, there and the players are all loved too. The real Celtic Supporter .

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{Ed007's Note - That with your mum is exactly the reason we keep childish stuff to the very minimum. And Jamie has previous for running to teacher when the going gets tough (giggle)

I am sorry about your Mother there is nothing like a Mother's love if you scroll up you will see that you started by the comment you made about a member of my family similar permutations thereafter lie!

I did not seek to offend please be reassured I will not trigger that line again

As for the BS remark about running to the teacher I think if memory serves me right there is excess 30,000 members? please be reassured not many that would be tougher than me! It is where my strengths lie! ATVB JB7

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10 Jan 2015 15:00:30
Got beat 1-0 but the worst thing is Scott brown going off injured after 5 mins. Please don't be anything that puts him out for a while as we have nothing in our squad that could replace him. Markie

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Did you see any of the game? Just curious to see what teams both played.

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Never seen it Kevin . Celtic were strong though. Gudetti played in the '3' and sepovic up front. Markie

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10 Jan 2015 16:52:10
I seen it and we were rank rotten like we've been all season, I'm not familiar with the PSV side but they started with a couple of 17 year olds, and commentator said Celtic have started with a much stronger looking team than PSV. They were a yard quicker than us as usual when we play a European side this season, this crap about our fitness under Ronny is just nonsence. We weren't good last season but we're twice as bad this season . Don't even bother calling me a Ronny hater and want him to fail because all that crap is just getting boring, the facts are there to see we're rank rotten, I also disagree with the nonsense on here that we're still in 4 competitions and in a better position than our poor season last season, at least last season we qualified for champions league football. I pray that DN30 and all other posters that are refusing to admit we're very poor under Deila and Collins come back at the end of the season after the treble is won and give us doubters pelters .

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10 Jan 2015 17:05:44
Couldn't agree more stevie! Watched it to.given the run around by psv reserves! And u hit the nail on the head mate,all this celtic haters and rd haters is one load of rubbish! We were 1 point behind in the league and we're sunning it abroad! Now we're 4 behind,brown and guedditti injured and beat by Psv youngsters! What was the point?? Rd said in the paper today we'll be stronger by Febuary! I really hope so! And I've noticed a lot of posters sayin Aberdeen will defo slip up! It shows u how much we've slipped when we're all hoping they slip up! And also someone said Adeen Dundee utd are stronger! Please wake up and see its us how have got worse not them getting stronger! How many new players did both these teams sign that's made this massive difference?? Stop kidding urselfs on eh!

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I am surprised that the last two enthusiastic posters who were full of encouragement for Deila and his players didn't give Virgil the abuse posters like them usualy hurl at Ambrose. Virgil today headed weakly across his own goal and conceded the goal. Virgil also put a forward clear by striking the ball off the corner flag and into the path of the attacker, he also hit his own cross - bar with the goal-keeper beaten .
I know I am a bit harsh on Virgil, who also did many good things during the match .
I wasn't one bit surprised that at times the Dutch team seemed to have an edge on us . However we also had good periods, the main thing about this trip according to Deila was for bonding and getting warm weather training . I presume that included hard sessions of training on Friday which would not be good preparation for playing today . I don't think the actual result today or on Tuesday would have been the most important part of the exercise .

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Danny, we don't need Aberdeen or any club to slip up .
It says a lot for your anger and hatred of Deila and the team that you use the result of a meaningless friendly to display your ignorance of Celtic .

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The goal scorer is a player valued at 20 million, now that ain't a reserve player? Just to be clear all European Teams have been a yard quicker than Celtic, even back when we got to Seville.

Now the football is not great no one denies this, our squad is poorer compared to previous years again no one denies this. What is getting people annoyed is that its all down to our so called 5th choice manager how as the facts show has us in 4 competitions after Europe in his first season whilst rebuilding our whole club, a fantastic achievement.

For the record The facts show Aberdeen and Dundee Utd are stronger. It's called a league table, refer to the Win Draw Lose and Points section.

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10 Jan 2015 19:24:16
Chris I can't defend anything about this current Celtic side never mind trying to defend individuals like Virgil, to me he's pretty mediocre, at least tell the truth when he hit his own crossbar, it was a shot towards goal which he was a yard away from and attempted to block that hit the top of his foot and looped over the keeper onto the bar

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Stevie people who follow Celtic like you do ( glass half empty ) guy . Many can't wait to get at Ambrose and I was trying to be sarcastic blaming Virgil for the deflection on to crossbar . The thing is many would have jumped to blame Ambrose for a similar deflection .
I have regularly said that c. ts on here can't wait to blame Ambrose, yet no one mentioned Virgil today .
Stevie you really showed yourself up with your post. A Celtic supporter who can't speak good of any Celtic player.

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I used to hate your posts Chris02 but you are my favourite poster now purely because you are so annoying, Keep it up. HH

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10 Jan 2015 22:52:12
Chris stop trying to defend mediocrity for our club, before you know it our standards will have slipped so far we will be the laughing stock of European football and maybe even Scottish football.

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Stevie you're talking rubbish

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Nice editing Ed lol

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10 Jan 2015 13:41:16
I know it may not be a popular view, but I think it's wrong that Celtic are not playing today.
As someone who travels a long way for matches, it makes it more difficult to get to the re-arranged fixture which will be in a midweek
I think if there is to be a mid season break, it should be the whole league closing down and not just one club. At least then the fixture list could be organised in advance.
The silly thing is, is that at the moment, we haven't got a fixture pile up, we had a week between Dundee United and Ross County, 9 days between Ross County and Kilmarnock, and it is a further week before we play Hamilton, so they shouldn't be burnt out.
I wish when coming to these decisions, a bit of thought would be given to supporters and the difficulties they have in getting to matches, but I suppose it's naive to think a football club ever considers what supporters think.

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Gerryc I understand your frustration about games been refined, mostly in mid-week .
But to say a club never thinks of its supporters is a bit harsh as regards Celtic . Last season the club gave all season ticket holders £100 off renewals
This year they maintained, only a couple of games ago, they allowed unemployed fans in free. Celtic do think of their fans sometimes .

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10 Jan 2015 13:28:13
I keep having this strange image in my head about the way we approach each transfer window. It, s like we keep these people in a darkened room, blindfolded with earphones on. Then come the day, we let them out to run about mental like Black Friday shoppers. Surely, months in advance, a club of our stature should be identifying potential targets, making tentative enquiries and working out costings. I know you can, t sign anyone till the window opens, but everything else could be in place. We know deals break down but that is why you have a list of options.We are always led to believe targets are identified but invariably end up scrabbling around as the clock ticks down. I have said before, I think Celtic do spend money but not always wisely. Transfer windows used to bring some excitement, but sadly they are becoming tedious, predictable and tiresome

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Totally agree mate. We have a big feb and a big run in. Get the deals done now. Get the players game time. But for every transfer window as far back as I can remember celtic are linked with this player and that only to get a loaner from nowhere at midnight on deadline day.

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Chasaboy . I would be surprised if Celtic were not doing exactly as you say
However the selling club would be doing exactly the same . Add the selling club's desire to get the best deal possible to the agent and player wanting the player to earn as much money as possible in a league founded on excess money, and maybe it's just not that easy for Lawwell to get the pick of the crop.

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10 Jan 2015 19:44:40
Like I said, that`s why you have list of options and do your homework early and deal with the people ready to deal.
You DO NOT wait till the last minute to find out your being pi££ed about.

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Chasaboy
It may be the case that we make our deals at the very end of the transfer window because we cannot make them earlier because as I said earlier clubs are holding out for more money and players want to go to the Epl and other leagues that will pay much more .
If you don't know that, I cannot help you . We are not Manchester City, or United or Chelsea, we are playing in one of the lower rank league tables .

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10 Jan 2015 23:19:31
Chris there are a lot of teams in worse leagues than our with a hell of a lot less cash than we have and seem to manage. And by the way our targets of the last decade have not exactly been world class players at the top of their game and if you can,t recognise that, I can,t help you.We are still a massive team for people to showcase their talent, even if it to use us as a stepping stone. You really have to stop excusing the club for their failings as to not recognise them means not to look for solutions.

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10 Jan 2015 13:01:18
It was lost with all the nial mginn over reaction, but can I say well done to stokes for going to an away game with our supporters. I'm not the guys biggest fan and yes it was a freebie, but fair play to the guy. Any other injured player would be no where near a Celtic match if there injured unless they are a true celtic fan. ( and I don't mean this celtic family carry on) I think injured or fit. Playing or dropped everyone should be together on match day. Well done stokesy

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10 Jan 2015 12:56:09
Let RD buy Maloney and James McClean for 3mil, give Duffy a contract(I pointed him out on here a couple of mths ago) and spend some money on defence, forget Gudetti and give Scepo and Griffiths and chance, the we would have had a good window

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Let us not sign James McClean, I don't think he would add anything to our squad .

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10 Jan 2015 12:09:33
Maloney or GMS in and Commons out looks like this is the plan not sure how I feel about that opinions?

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I don't think we should go for Maloney. He's had two spells and produced one fine season. We could get gMs just now for around 400grand max and not a lot in wages surely there is room for commons and gms in the squad. If I had to choose I'd keep commons but I'm a big fan of his.

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10 Jan 2015 11:34:41
I see that the young Celts won 3-1 against Newcastle under21′s.
All goals came from two trialists Kavanagh from shamrock rovers with one and Duffy from Derry City scored the other 2.

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10 Jan 2015 10:56:30
Seen Chris Sutton silly comments today, anything but a treble would be failure.

Has he just publicly announced then that Lennons reign was a failure?

Here I was thinking he was a mate of Lennons, oh well!

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The manager agrees with him apparently, some arrogance for someone who failed to qualify for the champs league twice in one season

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I think to abuse a manager for failing twice in the one season to make the Champions league, after four months indicates a strange type of Celtic fan .
To continue to bring up something like that which happened in Deila's very early days .

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So did Maribor not give a good account of themselves in Champions League?

Considering the group, I thought they did well in games.

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Kev T
Some of the posters on here, seem to sup from the negative cup all year .

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10 Jan 2015 00:43:57
Ed who can you see us actually going for do you think we will get any of the 3 from Dundee united or can we just expect to sell a couple and end up with loan signings? I have resigned to the fact we will loose commons and Guidetti will walk at the en of the season can't see him going to inter now that they have signed podolski and shaquiri.

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{Ed007's Note - I'd be surprised to see any the Dundee Utd players joining us in this window, they aren't desperate for money so they have no need to sell.}

I agree ED 007 .
Dundee United are not in great need for the money, and I don't think we are in great need for any of their players either.

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