19 Oct 2017 13:35:06
Reading the posts and banter about Gordon, Ntcham, Gamboa etc. etc. and very few are pointing the blame at Brendan. he picks them. He seems he'll bent on playing big Ntcham when the fellas obviously struggling a bit and even allowing for injuries to go to Munich with a makeshift defence was criminal. How Ntcham and Gamboa came out for the second half is beyond me. SA was nowhere near fit and at this level you need all 11 to be at it. If the word is correct Brendan has clout in the corridors of CP. Time to rattle a few cages and demand funds to strengthen this team. The summer signings have taken us backwards but as always we never seem to strengthen from a position of power. I feel it's make or break time regarding where we want to be. Domestic dominance is paramount for me but we can't continue to put dross performances like that in year in year out.

{Ed007's Note - So without spending obscene amounts of money that we don't have how do we compete with teams like PSG and Bayern?
And if you have an answer for that you should contact clubs like Accies or Hibs to tell them how they can compete with Celtic as it's basically the same thing.}


1.) 19 Oct 2017
19 Oct 2017 14:15:13
That's okay if it was 3-0 against a club nearer our stature.
Nothing unexpected about being beaten 0-3 away at bm (or 0-5 at home against psg) .
We can't compete with their spending.
I agree tho that as a team playing in the cl 2 years running and looking to be in el after Christmas and cl next season we should not have a makeshift ANYTHING. Seems we have overinvested in the midfield for a decade to the detriment of our defence and forward line.
As much as I like him I don't think we can start with Sinclair in tough European games. The guy cannot defend. Play someone who can and if the scores are close bring him on for the last 20.
Apart from weak goals I am not too disappointed. I will be if we go into another season with a makeshift ANYTHING.

{Ed007's Note - Good post mate. I remember a time not so long ago on here when people - not you specifically, Digi, I don't know if you were one of them - were adamant that results in the CL didn't matter as long as we're in there and collecting the money.
Now it's a disaster to some people if we lose away to Bayern Munich.}


2.) 19 Oct 2017
19 Oct 2017 14:17:50
Ed . point taken but I'm not expecting to compete with your PSGs and Bayern of this world maybe be a bit stronger and put up a better show. A full strength team probably wouldn't have got a result but with our resources albeit pocket money compared to the elite we should be able to call on better than Gamboa and Ntcham. I can understand how other clubs fans gloat at our expense but our concern we can only look after ourselves and part of my point is if we do TIAR then as a club we have to decide what our priorities are when we reach the CL groups and I appreciate it would be suicidal to go mad with the dosh as a certain Scottish club once did . God rest them.

{Ed007's Note - But you're still not explaining how we should 'put up a better show' against some of the best teams in the world? Would Lustig at RB with Sviatchenko or Bitton at CB got us a draw?
Seeing Gamboa and Ntcham seem to be your fall guys, I think KT was just as bad as Gamboa. Stuart Armstrong once again proved what everyone with any sense and a pair of eyes knows, that he's not and never will be a No.10, Sinclair might as well stayed at home to watch Corrie with his Mrs and LG proved again that he struggles at the higher CL levels.
The only 2 players I'd give pass marks to last night were Boyata and Roberts.
Do you think challenging for the CL should be one of our priorities?}


3.) 19 Oct 2017
19 Oct 2017 14:40:52
Jesus wept, talk about fans on here being out of touch with reality, Everyone on here that thinks we can compete with these teams should be sectioned asap, We will never compete with these clubs due to finances, Even if the defence was full strength we wouldve got tonked, They are 3rd favorites to win it, i've noticed the ones that were against the europa as its beneath them, are the same ones that are first on here spouting dross, You want the moon on a stick.


4.) 19 Oct 2017
19 Oct 2017 15:18:45
EBTs?


5.) 19 Oct 2017
19 Oct 2017 15:56:40
Your right ed, the goalposts have moved in the CL in the last 2-3 years, the best are now light years away and we can't catch up due to their considerable spending and the gap is getting bigger.
Only a few years ago a 4m player would have done a good turn for us in the CL now he is a very average player, u need a 100m player to make a difference now.
Our prize is just getting there and while results won't matter too much we have to look long term and see improvement in our team and if we get Europa league then its been achieved.
Getting to the last 16 whilst not impossible should be out of our minds for the foreseeable future unless something changes or we get an amazing draw.
It puts into perspective how well Lennon did to get there and he used to get pelters on here for the embarrassing defeats lol.


6.) 19 Oct 2017
19 Oct 2017 16:04:36
Hi Ed.

Have to agree with you here. I said it before and after the draw was made and the game against PSG. Celtic unfortunately don't have the finance to compete with the big team like PSG and Bayern. I would love if we could but our top transfer cost 4.5 million and PSG have a front three of close to 500 million. And unfortunately the results like these will happen to us and some teams in pot 3 and pot 4. Just look at how many big scorelines there have been so far in this year tournament.

The lads are trying there best but unfortunately class will rise to the top at this level. This is like us in the spl. We are miles ahead and have the quality to do the same to most if not all teams in the spl. I fully understand everyone being annoyed and upset with these result but we just can't compete against the top teams in Europe. The money divide is just too vast.

People have to remember that last week there were posts praising gambo and nitham and this week they are getting slated. One team is dundee and this is the mighty Bayern.

Brendan is trying he best against massive odds and the fact is we are still third and can still be in Europe after Christmas. Anyone who was thinking we could compete for anything other than third in this group needs to have a look at the financial power against us.

In Brendan we trust.

{Ed007's Note - Spot on, Oscar.}


7.) 19 Oct 2017
19 Oct 2017 16:46:45
its not even the naymars and the robbens. its was the amazing midfielder at PSG they subbed before the end and the 2 guys on the left wing and one of the goal scorers for bm, I admit I'm not up on world football, a bit celtic blinkered, but I had never heard of these guys and they are WORLD CLASS.

even near the end they brought on Hames!

its a different world from us. many people slag off lustig in here, I think he's descent, but he's never been a centre back in his puff and playing him there is asking for trouble. Gamboa is quick. and the 2 on the wing were strolling past him - that's the step up in quality we are up against.

So not disappointed, saying the goals were avoidable just meant they would have scored another way. We just aren't good enough at that level.

Our mission last year was to be better than BMG - this year we have to be better than Anderleicht and that is the progress we are hoping for.

But we can't not recruit a centre back and 1 in 1 out and a permanent decent striker. guess we will just get a couple of midfielders tho. lol.


8.) 19 Oct 2017
19 Oct 2017 16:56:02
Some of what im reading baffles outta me.
Undefeated so far in league AGAIN, semi final on saturday the domestic dominant juggernaut rolls on.
Champs league? let's get real bhoys (all i looked for in the draw was where the next party was going to be) . Beating Anderlecht away was a great result our euro campaign was always going to come down to a 2 legged affair and job half done.
Domestic dominance and europa after xmas and it will be a great season .


9.) 19 Oct 2017
19 Oct 2017 17:32:24
I think all the ones going on about competing with the big boys are missing the point, that's three games where there were occasions of bad passing, even against Anderlecht at the start they, well certain players, couldn't find a team mate, it's all well and good going on about a better class of team, and PSG and Bayern, are that, but there is something fundamentally wrong when you can't even make an easy pass, I can't remember them making so many bad passes in last year's CL.


10.) 20 Oct 2017
20 Oct 2017 07:23:01
@welshbhoy - Football Fan Tourists - surely that's the saddest indictment of where Scottish football currently stands in Europe yet?
P. S. that's not a criticism before the predictable Progres jokes are posted.