09 Dec 2016 21:38:50
If I wanted my 6yr old to listen to songs about the IRA I would of took him to see Shebeen! Absolutely shocking from certain so called "Supporters" tonight! Listen to all that p1sh on busses etc but singing it in football stadium is tragic! I'm there to watch my team play football, not listen to songs about the queen! The best thing is the morons that are singing they songs have no idea what they are even singing about! Uneducated idiots!

1.) 09 Dec 2016
09 Dec 2016 21:47:23
Serious question: how do you know that they don't?

2.) 09 Dec 2016
09 Dec 2016 21:54:22
That's my opinion and I'm allowed to have it, your the first to have one so I'm sure you will understand TPP 😄. Would you be happy taking young children to a FOOTBALL game for to listen to that?

3.) 09 Dec 2016
09 Dec 2016 21:58:03
So you don't actually know that?

That's all you had to say.

4.) 09 Dec 2016
09 Dec 2016 22:03:23
You send your kid to school to have them indoctrinated with religion and how glorious the armed forces are and that is far worse than have them listen to a few rebel tunes.

Who knows your son may like it and grow up into a good republican and throw of the middle class sensibilities you have tried to instill in them.

5.) 09 Dec 2016
09 Dec 2016 22:14:38
So "RabMac". You think it's acceptable for young children to listen to "**** The Queen" etc? If the fact you think that's acceptable then I actually feel sorry for your children, well if you actually have any 👍.

{Ed007's Note - Did you turn the TV off or send your 6 year old out the room or did you sit and draw his attention to the songs by moaning about it?
I said myself that the 90 minute rebs sesh was a bit much but why the hell is everything brought down to the 'Think about the children' to try and get some sympathy for whatever someone wants to moan about.}

6.) 09 Dec 2016
09 Dec 2016 22:33:11
Totally agree about not drawing their attention to it, try and get the kids to focus on the good football we are seeing, it's a lot better just now than when I was growing up.

7.) 09 Dec 2016
09 Dec 2016 22:33:30
Just had to turn down the volume as had no choice as didn't want to listen to that trash! If children are forced to listen to that garbage then they will no doubt grow up to sing that garbage also. Sorry for wanting my kid to have some form of understanding that it is wrong to sing "songs" like that!, I don't want sympathy clown, I want to go to or watch a football game without tramps singing trash about something that has nothing to do with FOOTBALL!

{Ed007's Note - Right, you didn't want to listen to it, could you not just say that without bringing kids into it, how many songs did it take before you turned the sound down?
And here's a thing, I'm dying to know how you could possibly explain what the wrong songs were if you had the volume turned down - how could you know what was being sung? Or were you just sitting telling your kid 'see that song they tramps are singing that you can't hear, don't ever let me catch you singing that'?
I think we know who the clown is here so calm down, Coco.}

8.) 09 Dec 2016
09 Dec 2016 23:07:06
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{Ed007's Note - You raging? I hope your kid didn't see you typing that!

9.) 10 Dec 2016
10 Dec 2016 00:40:47
so michael you don't want your son to listen to IRISH rebel songs, so why do you have the IRISH flag on your logo?

10.) 10 Dec 2016
10 Dec 2016 01:35:55
Michael_Dundee_7

Whilst i totally agree with your sentiment about that rubbish having absolutely nothing to do with football and having no place in a football stadium, I think the what about the children line is a bit much.

Children only grow up to be easily led and drawn towards this unsavoury behaviour if they are brought up to not think for themselves and given a clear distinction over right and wrong (a cliche I know) . Yes they can rebel at somepoint but your child is going to grow up and at somepoint will see murderers, wars and rape on the TV and even potentially see horrors infront of their own eyes outwith your control. (we can be an awful species a lot of the time) but because he/ she is being exposed to it doesn't mean they are going to go out and do it at the first or every opportunity. If people are brought up to glorify people whom in principle have valid political and social goals but have some completely abhorrent ways (and yes the reactions were provoked over a long long time, still doesn't make it right) of trying to get what they want without pointing that bit out you are going to end up with a wee fud

The fuds that generally go in for this constant tripe (from who i have met) are brought up in an environment where this is acceptable and normalised behaviour, they do not know when enough is enough or they are such wee fuds that they just don't care and do it purely for the reaction of others, like trolling really.

Try having a convo with the people that consistently drag this stuff up at matches and you will see that they just don't care what you are saying and have no real idea what the ideals are that they purport to support. Bring your kid up with the facts, don't hide the unsavoury from them because you are worried it will appeal, let them learn why these people do it, let them know what can happen to people that take it too far and i'm pretty certain you will end up with a more knowledgeable person as a result. i'm not saying to get the rebs on and purposefully expose a 6 year old to it all, they are still too innocent to grasp it all. But it hearing it through the telly or at a stadium etc is hardly going to turn them into a wee fud unless you as a parent allow it to. For example I've listened to death metal my whole life and my son is Autistic (he picks up the tiniest of nuances in everything around him and without close watching will run and run with the oddest of things if allowed) but he doesn't go around saying he is going to rip someones head off because he heard it in a song, he still knows that yes you can think it if angered but don't bloody say it or do it 😀 and he has less of these right normal social filters that most of us have naturally.

Yes point out where these fuds are being fuds, but don't hide your kid from the world because some of it is unsavoury, let them see it (in doses where possible, but sometimes crap is going to be flung infront of your face and teach them what's the right and wrong way to go about stating your beliefs and expressing yourself in the correct and appropriate places.

I hope I've made sense here, easy to think out but not to type without sounding like a sanctimonious turd ( which i know i actually am) 😀.

11.) 10 Dec 2016
10 Dec 2016 07:46:53
Good to read your posts again Evinguu.

12.) 10 Dec 2016
10 Dec 2016 09:41:04
mick bud, like myself teach your kid to be a leader, not a follower. not a bad thing to do in this day and age, take care mate.

13.) 10 Dec 2016
10 Dec 2016 10:15:27
you should be educating your kids on the subject matter of the songs and how they are about the evils done to the Irish by the oppressive british state.

14.) 10 Dec 2016
10 Dec 2016 09:42:36
Our kids are taught that the Romans stole the world through killing as did the British, they are told 6 million Jews were killed, the plague killed millions, nuclear bombs, the establishment is not to be questioned and to always follow the system or else, this is 5 days a week.

What they are not told is the other side to all of those stories, And believe me there are a lot worse stories than I mentioned. My point is children are bombarded with guns violence greed selfishness etc., so why shouldn't they be allowed or even have to listen to songs being sung especially ones that let's you know how a people felt.

I agree it shouldn't really be mixed with football but what other chance to these people have to be heard. of course this only applies if they actually know what they are singing about singing for the sake of being offensive to someone is just stupid.

15.) 10 Dec 2016
10 Dec 2016 01:35:55
Michael_Dundee_7

Whilst i totally agree with your sentiment about that rubbish having absolutely nothing to do with football and having no place in a football stadium, I think the what about the children line is a bit much.

Children only grow up to be easily led and drawn towards this unsavoury behaviour if they are brought up to not think for themselves and given a clear distinction over right and wrong (a cliche I know) . Yes they can rebel at somepoint but your child is going to grow up and at somepoint will see murderers, wars and rape on the TV and even potentially see horrors infront of their own eyes outwith your control. (we can be an awful species a lot of the time) but because he/ she is being exposed to it doesn't mean they are going to go out and do it at the first or every opportunity. If people are brought up to glorify people whom in principle have valid political and social goals but have some completely abhorrent ways (and yes the reactions were provoked over a long long time, still doesn't make it right) of trying to get what they want without pointing that bit out you are going to end up with a wee fud

The fuds that generally go in for this constant tripe (from who i have met) are brought up in an environment where this is acceptable and normalised behaviour, they do not know when enough is enough or they are such wee fuds that they just don't care and do it purely for the reaction of others, like trolling really.

Try having a convo with the people that consistently drag this stuff up at matches and you will see that they just don't care what you are saying and have no real idea what the ideals are that they purport to support. Bring your kid up with the facts, don't hide the unsavoury from them because you are worried it will appeal, let them learn why these people do it, let them know what can happen to people that take it too far and i'm pretty certain you will end up with a more knowledgeable person as a result. i'm not saying to get the rebs on and purposefully expose a 6 year old to it all, they are still too innocent to grasp it all. But it hearing it through the telly or at a stadium etc is hardly going to turn them into a wee fud unless you as a parent allow it to. For example I've listened to death metal my whole life and my son is Autistic (he picks up the tiniest of nuances in everything around him and without close watching will run and run with the oddest of things if allowed) but he doesn't go around saying he is going to rip someones head off because he heard it in a song, he still knows that yes you can think it if angered but don't bloody say it or do it 😀 and he has less of these right normal social filters that most of us have naturally.

Yes point out where these fuds are being fuds, but don't hide your kid from the world because some of it is unsavoury, let them see it (in doses where possible, but sometimes crap is going to be flung infront of your face and teach them what's the right and wrong way to go about stating your beliefs and expressing yourself in the correct and appropriate places.

I hope I've made sense here, easy to think out but not to type without sounding like a sanctimonious turd ( which i know i actually am) 😀.

16.) 10 Dec 2016
10 Dec 2016 14:59:07
My wee Bhoy watched the whole game n thought it was amazing, he loves the Celtic, scoring goals, the colour, the songs, to him n to me it's magical n I love that atmosphere. He also loved Rd but I won't tell him our own supporters don't kind abusing their own manager or having ago at our own fans for backing the team n singing songs that r true, just for the record like me he now backs Brendan n will do every Celtic team manager.