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31 Aug 2018 08:40:42
Dembele tweeted this last night.

"Don't get it wrong Bhoys and Ghirls nothing to do with people who really care about the club @CelticFC 🤐too much love and respect for you and the crest #CarefulWhoYouCallTheLeaderOfYours"

Is that from a player who wants to stay? :- ( HH.

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31 Aug 2018 08:53:51
This whole thing is turning into one almighty clusterf##k.

31 Aug 2018 09:14:21
When the board meet players the promise them a big move if they do well.

Then they have knocked it back.

pretty much 50% of the players we sign don't want to play for us before they even kick a ball for us.

Remember the likes of Bangura etc talking about playing in the EPL before he even arrived at Parkhead.

31 Aug 2018 09:17:29
If he has something to say he should just say it. I've no time for childish mind games in any form.

31 Aug 2018 09:18:48
Got to say I've got sympathy for boyata and dembelle as both have received good offers to the club. We attract these players under the knowledge that they can develop and move on to bigger leagues and if we start delaying their wishes when good bids have been made then players may think twice about coming here. I'm not condoning players refusing to play but remember they are foreigners with no real attachment to our club and see Scotland and Celtic as a stepping stone in their careers. On a personal note I'd love to follow the EPL and shut our transfer business at start of August as trying to get freebies and loans 10 weeks after pre season started is doing my nut in.

{Ed001's Note - from the outside looking in, it seems very similar to Southampton and the problems they have had in recent years were down to blocking moves away for players that had joined them in the first place with the promise they would be allowed to move on.}

31 Aug 2018 09:22:09
Don't get me wrong, there are ways players should conduct themselves. But it sounds like both Dembele and Boyata were given some sort of assurance that hasn't worked out for them. What conversations that happened between players and management we can only speculate about. However we must also remember what BR said, deals have to be right for us as a club too, and with the nature of things, we can only speculate about conversations between PL and buying clubs too. It looks like we struggled to have a replacement lined up for Boyata and Lyon haven't met our valuation. We do find ourselves in a bit of a mess so late on. What we don't want is unrest, but we also don't want to be bent over by players/ buying clubs either or leave ourselves short. Tricky one.

31 Aug 2018 09:25:29
Just looked at his tweets. I think the guys calling him a model professional are way off the mark. He can be disappointed, even let it be known. But the childish and petty comments is the markings of another primadona in the makings. I wanted him to stay b4 this, now is be on the phone to Lyon. Nobody is bigger than the club!

31 Aug 2018 09:30:49
The assurances would be that if the right bid comes in they would allow
the move. If a rubbish bid comes in on the 11th hour, i am fairy certain nobody has promised them that. The players know it would be impossible to replace. Its not Celtics fault that they aren't actually good enough to be the buying teams 1st,2nd or even 3rd choice. Otherwise the bids would come early thick and fast.

31 Aug 2018 10:02:10
Shug, none of that is the player's fault either. They play football, the industry has some weird rules about contracts etc. and everyone looks to exploit them for their own benefit. It's the way it is. Very few players have loyalty like the fans. They are a one-man business at the end of the day and they'll always look to better themselves. Dembele has been quiet for 2 years, he now feels that the club are not allowing him to develop further by moving up to a better standard of football. Of course he's annoyed, of course the club are trying to get as much as they can, of course the fans want him to stay and love the club the way they do but it doesn't work like that. BR is wrong to use the "it's too late to replace him" excuse because if Lyon or whoever meet the asking price then he'll be sold at the last minute if needs be and that's the bottom line of transfers everywhere. Our club is at fault for not dealing with this debacle sooner. The fault lies squarely at the club's front door and this situation is of our own making entirely. HH.

31 Aug 2018 10:19:32
Bob. If you valued your house at 300k and someone offered you 250k what would you say.

31 Aug 2018 10:22:23
And how's the club at fault for not dealing sooner. The offer came in yesterday. Id fine him for making inflammatory remarks on social media. And let him know exactly who is boss.
He will still be sold btw, but as you say when the asking price is met.

31 Aug 2018 10:28:40
Save me the I love the club pish while your trying to force your way out.
You signed a contract.
If another club want you they have to pay what we want for you. End of discussion.

Fans on here went mental that we never paid the money hibs want but think it's ok for dembele and boyata to act like spoiled children when our terms aren't matched.

31 Aug 2018 10:32:45
Valuations are subjective Shug. Sometimes they can be unrealistic. If we're being offered anything like the figures mentioned then it's hardly a poor deal for Celtic seeing as we paid something like £500k. Remember, the guy has been good in a 2nd rate league so £20m or whatever it is ain't bad. And what's going to happen to the money anyway? Would we be willing to pay that £20m or whatever it is to another club for a player who would bring similar results and who wanted to be here? Not a chance, we're looking for another freebie to deliver the goods and that's where the club is at fault. HH.

31 Aug 2018 10:37:52
Exactly Kev. We brought him here, made him famous and made him better. His lack of respect is beyond me.

31 Aug 2018 10:46:58
Absolutely right Kev.

31 Aug 2018 10:48:08
Bob. Our valuations are justified based on the spending powers of the other leagues and previous sales where we have been taken advantage of. 20m is nothing for a 22yr striker who looks destined to be a top top player. He has performed well in the CL and his country all be it not yet the full team. Say we sell him to Lyon for 15m. He starts, continues his form and in a few months time he's worth 45m. Just like the VVD scenario, Celtic aren't getting done again. Its hard enough getting quality in, at least when we lose some it should be on our terms.

31 Aug 2018 10:49:37
100% agree with the if you sign a contract on x amount of money for x amount of years then you should accept it and get on with the job in hand. The powers that be need to do something about this not playing even tho u have a contract. The bosman allows players to leave at end of contract which is fair so forcing moves and refusing to play while under contract should be punished. They can't have it both ways. If i am under contract at work I can't refuse to work cause better offer on table due to laws so why players any different?

31 Aug 2018 10:50:59
FYI if Lyon offered 20m quid hed be away. Rumour is it us between 15-18m Euro. 18m Euro bn the max they were prepared to spend which is 16.5m quid today. That 3.5m difference is a player to us.

31 Aug 2018 11:12:03
Bobthecat. it makes no difference if we paid 500K or 50M. it is only a good deal if the club get their current valuation!
The only was to stop this downing tools would be for every contract to have a buyout clause (like Neymar etc) - if clause is met then the player is free to discuss the move, that way it is up to the player/ agent to get the buying club to meet the clause, if not then no deal. move on till someone is willing to pay the fee!

31 Aug 2018 11:17:47
Shug neither you nor I know what has been offered. If we read the news we'll hear different figures. My point is he'll NEVER be a £40m striker playing in Scotland. It ain't going to happen. HH.

31 Aug 2018 11:21:41
Look we have a player that has won 6 trophies in 2 years.
He scores in 1 goal in less then 2 games
He has scored in league cups including semis and finals
He's had scored goals in CL qualifiers and CL groups stages.
He's on the verge on breaking in the squad of the world champions
All that and people don't think we should hold out for what he's worth?
There are players that haven't done half that going for 50 million.
Save me this crap he's only played in Scotland.
He's worth at least 25 million and we have every right to hold out for it.

31 Aug 2018 11:27:03
Again Bob totally disagree with you. And agree with Kev.
But your right, he will never be 45m in Scotland. He will when he moves and id rather get cash now than a sell on that's not a certainty.

In fact Bob are you his agent lol.

31 Aug 2018 11:51:55
I think the issue seems to lie above Rodgers tbh. Careful who you call the leaders? Does that not sound like he's saying Brendan's meant to be the boss but he ain't pulling the strings?

Now reading between the lines could an element of him playing have been dictated to by the board. Same with boyara he's fit Rodgers let's us know. Then Boyata says he not fit, ensuring he's not cup tied adding to his value. No doubt both players want away but board room level will want top money and dictate the management of this situation.

To be fair I'd make sure we never accept anything less than £20million for dembele. I'm sure Memphis depay went from? psv for £25 million to Man U and never hit heights. Mbappe >£100 million. Demebelle was in a provisional squad to the world champions during the summer. We're not asking for the same value as Mbappe just to pay a reasonable amount for a player of demebelles quality.

If that does come in with a sign on fee is hope at least £10million was splashed today on another striker.

31 Aug 2018 11:52:20
Lads the biggest problem is what happens now if no bid is sorted. Where does that leave things? Dembele from what he has being saying via his tweets doesn't appear to want to play for the manager and powers to be. Can t see him being involved on Sunday if he is here. I can definitely see both sides of the argument. If the club have made any agreement with dembele they should honour it otherwise going forward other players might look at it and think differently about joining. However this can only be the case if the transfer is right which surely must be 20m plus or at least 20m with serious add ons and future transfer %.

This whole window has been a total nightmare regardless of what happens and one Celtic as a club need to ensure it does not happen again.

31 Aug 2018 12:22:15
4 leaf he liked and shared a pop at Rogers fae big Sutton. The tweets were meant for the gaffer.

31 Aug 2018 12:24:53
Im on my high horse am today and my argument isn't with him wanting away. Its with him airing is laundry in public and putting the inflammatory comments on twitter. he's being a deeva, something we do not need.

31 Aug 2018 12:42:05
I can't understand why a club would let there player talk to another club and agree terms with that club without agreeing a fee for that player before hand It just upsets the player and is bad management IMO WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO CELTIC?

31 Aug 2018 14:09:09
Unfortunately Shugmckie that seems to be the way people seem to air their annoyance nowadays. Its either Twitter, Facebook etc. Shame it's all come down to this.

31 Aug 2018 14:12:25
Tony clubs do that all the time.

31 Aug 2018 16:44:16
are you sure the selling club does not agree a fee first before the other team unsettles the player they want?



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