29 Apr 2016 14:42:46
Hi ed . have you heard anything about a meeting where Desmond openly/ publicly criticised pl and the transfer policy and intimated about getting a high profile manager?
{Ed007's Note - Now this is a mix of half rumours, half truths and possibly a big dollop of BS in there as well but I'll try and make it as sensible to read as I can mate.
- Peter Lawwell's position has been being independently audited over recent months - board members are not happy with the way things are going. Dermot Desmond never even stayed for the penalties at Hampden and made it abundantly clear to Lawwell late on the Sunday night that it was unacceptable.
- Dermot Desmond has taken it upon himself to appoint the next manager which could spell the end for Lawwell and Park if true. And we know DD likes to aim big(ish).
- A Director of Football has been discussed but who or by whom I couldn't even guess. MON over Roy Keane has been mentioned but I think that's pie in the sky stuff.
- The Keanes and Moyes level of manager are not prepared to work under the current conditions with Lawwell and Park and want significant investment in the team.
- The Keanes and Moyes level of manager want to be able to bring in their own people (if Moyes could bring in Steve Round it would be quite a coup imo) and have full control over player recruitment in a more traditional approach.
- Bitton and Johansen will be moved on to provide the manager with funds to start with a portion of any sales going into that fund too.
- The two board members who wanted Neil Lennon out are adamant that he won't be returning to the Club.
That's about all I can think of just now DRB and remember I'm not saying any of that is true.}
29 Apr 2016 15:36:03
That's some pretty promising BS though! Here's hoping!
{Ed007's Note - It sounds OK doesn't it Jimbo but we'll see what actually happens.}
29 Apr 2016 15:39:57
Peter Lawwell is a paid lachie who works to the remit given to him by good ol' Dermott Desmond!
So I don't think DD is in a position to openly or publically slate him, DD needs to take a long hard look at his own role in the deterioration of our team over the last 3 or 4 years, especially the last 2 seasons under Ronny Deila .
29 Apr 2016 15:58:55
I don't disagree with you Drewzy, until I see real change I ain't putting another penny into the club, whilst the billionaire major shareholders invest jack $#@! I don't care if that makes me a bad fan or a stayaway or whatever. I, like everybody else I feel, have been taken as a bit of a mug for several seasons. Getting rid of JP and PL would be one hell of a start though.
29 Apr 2016 16:35:20
Thanks for that info Ed, sounds better than it has done for quite a while, even if it just means PL is made aware that he better reassess his priorities for the club then that will be good. here's hoping we appoint a high profile manager.
29 Apr 2016 17:16:11
Hopefully get a total clearout. Sounds promising.
29 Apr 2016 19:01:07
I have said from the beginning that I thought it would be DD that picks the next manager is same way he picked oneill and Strachan
29 Apr 2016 19:17:34
Jim Tim I agree with you and have been thinking along the same lines as yourself, we have without doubt been getting shortchanged and taken for granted by our board for years, but my point was that DD calls the tune PL is his employee who runs the club according to the instructions of DD so I think DD has a Hyde on him slating PL, if you do everything on the cheap you end up where we are are at the moment, empty stands and unhappy fans!
29 Apr 2016 19:27:05
That was really interesting Ed thanks for that I would not say PL is bad for the club IMO but for me he has to step RIGHT back from the football side and let what ever manager do his job and PL do his (the money side of it) give the manager a budget and let him get on with it.
{Ed007's Note - Lawwell has done well with regards to incoming finances, sponsorships etc The only part of player recruitment he should be involved in is contract negotiations. It's not even the amount of money that he's spent it's what he's spent it on, he's wasted millions on duds all on the say so of John Park.
I don't think Lawwell would be happy to relinquish the power he has though.}
29 Apr 2016 20:24:47
Thanks ed . the story as told to me came from "a reliable source" hope the crux of it is true and change is on its way . I keep forgetting to check the rumours page was looking on banter for post to come up . glad I never done a rabmac . 😆.
{Ed007's Note - :=D
29 Apr 2016 23:12:48
Interesting post DRB enjoyed reading that. Fingers crossed this is true.
29 Apr 2016 23:55:36
Good post there is hope after all. Surely with a high profile manager like Moyes or Rodgers will probably be enough to lure some decent out of contact EPL players up North and put a bit of credibility back in the league.
30 Apr 2016 01:41:19
Does anyone think with this information in mind, we might very well see PL leave to go to Sunderland? If DD appoints next manager, i can't see the trust in PL being reestablished.
We need a quality set up off field in terms of management and coaching.
{Ed007's Note - I really don't see how Lawwell's job is tenable. RD was his project and he MUST fall on his sword over it unless he throws Park under the bus.
I said the other week I spoke to a well placed and knowledgeable source in England that compared Lawell to Levy at Spurs, he has far too much financial and emotional investment in the Club and would need to be sacked/pushed.
If DD is in the kind of mood thst's rumoured a mutual consent push could be best for both parties. I would be surprised if Lawwell seen Sunderland as a big enough job for him, remember he is a power hungry, narcissistic megalomaniac who probably sees a Man City or Chelsea job more to his stature.}
30 Apr 2016 02:49:54
Surely yous don't think PL picks who the manager is going to be? DD will always have the final say on that .
30 Apr 2016 02:55:05
I hate it that these actions are knee jerk. But it has came to that. Pl has been attepting to line his nest for years and I agree that suderland might not be the biggest fish he fancies. Wish there were trickles from the next level up on his chances of being moved to the top table. Think the Sunderland link speaks volumes as to where he will actually end up.
29 Apr 2016 22:42:32
I can only speculate drewzy, but DD leaves the running of the club to PL, DD has got other things going on. Simple as.
However, as what we've heard from the most valuable source on the page, this might change, as DD probably being a sensible man, can't be too pleased.
DD has spoken himself about CFC being an 'emotional investment not a financial one', so, given his riches, is it? I know people who go without in order to watch Celtic games. Yet DD only seems to dip in his pockets to please his Irish playboy pals. See Keane and Keane eg. That pisses me off.
I agree with you, and basically what I'm saying is the money CFC make for DD is peanuts compared to his other ventures. So surely now with mounting pressure against himself, he has to take pride in the running of the club, and twist, because as the s*** falls down the pyramid - from Berget, to RD, to PL and JP, it will soon end up on his door, if not already.
The reality is, until we are in a position of regular CL qualification (which is PL's fault we aren't) and some sheik or oil baron wants their logo on our kits and stadium, DD will be our owner. So, the running of the club, on a footballing basis, needs to change.
I've said all along that PL is good at the financial side of things. Between himself and rasputin JP though, they are unfit for purpose. And although have been given money, have used it very unwisely.
30 Apr 2016 10:09:32
I don't think PL will be going anywhere to be honest
Yes celtic gambled on Ronny and it hasn't worked out
Tried a new direction and it failed
But in PLs time here celtic have been successful on and off the pitch.
Every club picks the wrong manager now and again
Hopefully they reorganise and pick the right man this time.
I am not a supporter of PL or the board but I ain't against them either
All I care about is my club is successful and healthy.
29 Apr 2016 20:50:47
Ed can you tell me any more about Lennon and the 2 board members or do you need to watch what you're saying? I know you don't like to throw gossip and scandal about the site but I can't find anything about it on google etc.
{Ed007's Note - During Lennon's final season in charge there were two members of the board who were very vocal about the lack of trophies won under him, and the embarrassing CL campaign.The board unanimously agreed that after the money and time invested in NL the CL campaign was a mitigating disaster with the 6-1 drubbing by Barca seen as a significant example of the deterioration of the Club under NL's tenure, not to mention the whole staleness around the club with Rangers demise and whether he was the man to lead the Club forward considering his failings to deliver trphies in a Rangers-less league. The board felt the Club was going backwards and that NL thought he was untouchable because he portrayed himself as the ultimate Celtic minded poster boy. A far cry from the Liverppol daft youngster who came over to Motherwell for trials.
His off field activities and shenanigans were also noted as a major source for concerrn with regards to the future public image of the Club.
29 Apr 2016 22:22:10
I agree Ed, PL has financially run the club well if anything too well, until DD changes the financial remit nothing can change, but the other posters are correct PL should limit his involvement in player recruitment to contract negotiations and its time to cut John Park loose, he has wasted million on a succession of dud strikers, DD has to take the lead and sort out the mess .