Celtic Rumours Archive May 07 2012

07 May 2012 22:55:58
whatever peter lawell and the board have planned regarding rangers position we can only second guess and no matter which way they go they cant under invest in the team again , even if rangers go to div3 we have to buy for europe not the spl , also on going to england up here we only needed to invest more than rangers to win the title and how many times have we done that , maybe im too sceptical but to get out the championship we would have to not only outplay but out spend up to 6 clubs to get to the epl then just to survive we would have to do the same again to do this we would have spend 30-40 mill ? a season and i cant see that happening ,,,, deep river bhoy

I reckon our income could double in england {Ed007's Note - It would more than double.}

Don't forget TV money in the Premiership is a lot higher. Also, no more playing 5,000 seater parks. Premiership is shown all over the world, sponsorship deals are very lucrative.

Our finances would go through the roof. Companies would crawl over broken glass to sponsor Celtic if they were in England. our world wide appeal would be even greater and I think we would become one of the richest clubs in the world. we could also attract huge players and increase the stadium to 75000 and fill it.

Agree with the last two posts. The way we are spending now say 4-5 million maybe a year and to win the league we get what? 2 mill tops? well a team like fulham in the premiership gets i think approx 40 million just for finishing 10th-14th. So who still thinks celtic cudnt hack it???

Kieran1888

And don't forget the 60 million u get for getting promoted from the championship to the premiership. Play off final is the richest game in football. Fact. More than The winnings for Champions League title

As it is never going to happen why bring up this tired old subject yet again?

07 May 2012 21:27:05
Andrew Johnson would actually do well up here but it doesnt seem like a Celtic type signing. I know they are looking for some more experienced players but I would have thought they would be even older and had more European experience.

Celtic have had scouts at a lot of Scandinavian games recently, thats a market which is still reasonably affordable so I can see why we are looking there. Henrikson, Kara and Yttergard Jenssen were apparently the players being watched (Kara is a Wanyama type collosus previously linked to Arsenal)

Also apparently looking at Jeremy Perbet of Mons who has a reputation as a clinical finisher, he has a £1 million buyout clause.

Mac

Kara and Yttergard Jenssen

bit much football manager there i think

I havent played football manager since it was championship manager 97/98 mate.

I'm just passing on what I have been told. Celtic have definitely had scouts at at least three Tromso games.

I have several good friends in Norway and Sweden and I have been told that Celtic representatives are watching a lot of games in both countries.

Mac

Never mind him mac. I thought ur rumours were interesting. Heard the one about Kara myself. He's even bigger than wanyama.

Rumours are exactly what they are. I was told Celtic were interested in these players so I thought I'd post it on here. I certainly wont be one of these posters who will come on and say these players are definitely cominc FACT but I was told by (impartial) people who's opinions I give credence to that Celtic were interested in them.

I know Celtic have had reps at Tromso games as one of my friends is a season ticket holder.

Mac

07 May 2012 20:38:35
Hi ed, is sammy injured do you know or is he just getting rested for last couple of games? Have to see was very impressed with Watt and Mc geouch at the weekend, 2 lads probably the only to get pass marks. Have to ask though, Rasmussen and Juarez, not even getting a chance to show what they can do-bit harsh? I mean hooper and stokes look on holidays already - so play rasmussen who would be keen to make a point. Same point with juarez? Bangura will def have another season to prove himself, rightly so. Big clearout needed in the summer and liked lennys comments about 3 'keane' type signings, (hope he means quality and not wages!)CB, RM and CF a def, and Gk sorted! Delighted to hear kayal could be in squad on sunday! Sounds strange but we've missed him, especially those tough away games. Some midfield diamond of wanyama, joe, broonie, kayal - take no sh*t! {Ed007's Note - I've not heard of any injury to Samaras. I just assumed he will be resting before Euro 2012.}

Heard that Sammy was allowed to fly to Greece to vote in the election on Sunday.
CM

He was told to take a 2 week holiday and went to Greece

07 May 2012 19:40:52
Evening Ed

Are there any ideas as to who might be on Celtics wish list as the big physical striker that Lennon craves! He stated in an interview at the weekend he's been looking for over a year for this type of player but had no luck! Have any names been mentioned and do you think it'll be an experienced fella or an undiscovered gem ie Izzy, Kayal etc

Ice man {Ed007's Note - Andy Johnson from Fulham's representatives have said CFC are interested in signing him. Kermorgant from Charlton has been watched as well. There is interest in Jay Rodriquez but Wigan have been 'chatting him up' all year with AV also interested in him. It looks as if Jordan Rhodes will be priced out of a move but that could depend on the structure of the deal rather than the cost. Jamie Vardy has decided to go to Leicester although the clubs have yet to agree a deal. I think there will be a couple of experienced players brought in and anything else will depend on departures. }

07 May 2012 20:03:36
Jings, the hibs are pinging them in, Dunfermline like sporting integrity have waved bye bye to the SPL.
Nevis

07 May 2012 19:09:31
ED007; Just heard a rumour that Mr Lawell is sitting on a nuclear option if Celtic feel rangers are getting special treatment.It seems we have had dialogue with UEFA with regards to shipping out to the English Div1.We are looking at a special dispensation if the EBT case goes against rangers,this would mean UEFA would leave any punishments to the SFA instead of them getting involved.The buy in has supposedly been set at 60m,which would be fronted by our two real billionaires,and we have a majority of support in the first div.This frees UEFA from making difficult decisions re the national team and rangers european results regarding unregistered players.Does sound piie in the sky to me but Mr Lawells silence has been deafening.you had a sniff?..........green jhedi {Ed007's Note - I said weeks ago that CFC legal team and Lawwell were watching very closely. Nuclear was the exact same word I told and used GJ. Everybody is trying to second guess Lawwell because he hasn't said anything, some are saying CFC will vote to 'save' Rangers because we need them, I have always doubted that point of view.}

Its too far fetched. If Rangers don't get there 10+ points deductions for next 2-3 years and the loss of earnings punishment THEN I think you will see Mr lawell and the lawyers coming to the fore. He is being clever by keeping quiet until wee see what happens. If he was to come out and say that legal action will be taken if these sanctions aren't taken against rangers AND then they did. It may to the bampots look like he was running the show and he would also undoubtedly be a target for the maniacs who would blame him, after all they couldn't blame they're own club could they now. So no Point in saying anything until he needs to. They will stay in the SPL and they will get these punishments. I'm sure of it. But much as it would be fantastic I can't see the move to english leagues. Interesting post though

Green Jhedi, I enjoy reading your posts on here. They are well written and well thought out and I agree with pretty much everything you've written but I just cant see that happening. If you have good sources and contacts then I take it back. I have neither. I just think the English league wont have us. Not after previous statements they have came out with. I think we will be having a strong word with uefa in the background and ask them to step in as the spl obviously arent up to it. I hope you are right as I do think scottish football is finished as we know it. Will be interesting to see how we vote.....Stef {Ed007's Note - The moving to England part will always be a MAJOR stumbling block, personally I can't see it happening any time soon, or until the breakaway European Super League becomes a reality.}

I think that all sounds too good to be true. Why for example would Celtic get special dispensation due to Rangers use of EBT's. Whilst we obviously suffered most its the case that all of Scottish football has been cheated, not just CFC. And why would UEFA cut that sort of deal. It doesnt make any sense. Hope I'm missing something and you're right but sadly I doubt it. That said, I don't doubt PL could go Nuclear at any minute lol

I have thought for some time that Mr Lawell has been very quiet with regards to the supposed sanctions.
If Rangers are not punished because it's the best for Scottish football ( as other persons put it) then its a total injustice and I for one would support a move to the English Division 1.
Mr Lawell will have a plan I have no doubt and I am looking forward to seeing it.
BigB

Dont think this will happen,, celtic to leave the country because rangers get special treatment , they always have and they always will!!!!!!!

Paul Brennan of CQN says that Celtic will definitely oppose Newco and that his source is impeccable. I know he has had direct contact with Lawell in the past so I wouldnt rule out the source being the man himself.

Celtic are 'keeping their powder dry' apparently and the word 'nuclear' is being bandied about by those in the know (not me!) I wont pretend to know whats on the cards but I think it is a fairly safe bet Celtic wont lie back and let them get their way without a fight.

Mac

There was an article in the English edition of the Sunday People on Sunday 29th April that stated Celtic were making moves behind the scenes in England and were getting favourable vibes regarding buying Portsmouths licence and that could be the chance to move south {Ed007's Note - That's not the most reliable of source for anything, isn't it just celebrity and football gossip in it? I'm not dissing you though, cheers for letting us know what was said and where.}

I also heard that Mr Lawwell is keeping his cards close to his chest at the moment but has something up his sleeve. CM

As i said in the op.it does sound iffy.The source is well connected to a lot of ex players in England and he claims the move started cos of the 60m buy in.With rangers unable to pay this they think it might be worth taking one team without the sectarian baggage.When i mentioned UEFA he claimed that the "rangers friendly" years of the SFA will be exposed and thats a can of worms they dont want opened,Lawells nuclear option perhaps.Cant see it but these are strange times.............green jhedi

Would be great if it were true, but agree with other posters, why should Celtic get speacial treatment because Rangers have done something wrong.

I think Celtic will quietly support Rangers Newco getting into the SPL because it is good for business. PL's silence is probably because he doesn't want to publicy admit his support for Rangers.

K-Dot

Can't believe I'm saying this but there's no chance Miller has made any contact with Lawwell is there? Seen some rumours about a Zombie Rangers possibly re-emerging in the English leagues as well. SPL board struggling at the moment, OF have too much clout and league too dependent on them. Be doing them a favour if we moved on.

I hope your right GJ, but when asking ed about a move to epl he always says that it cant happen which is more likely, however seeing a 60 mill price tag to get in does give me hope in that what you said they cant afford it. On top of that i believe or would like to believe that we are more liked in epl then them, and just think of the atmosphere we could bring to it. i think we could surprise a few in epl and it would suck giving up CL for awhile but at least we could work our way up(the right way lol) to get CL back through hard work but what i think would be good for us is that we will get alot more respect as to being a great team and not just a one good team in a crappy league that we get now.
I do think PL as well our Celtic leaders do have a plan because there is no way we would sit back and say nothing and just let whatever happens happens after all the years of dodgyness and bad calls im sure they would want out and make Celtic even better and more profit as a bigger brand. we do have 2 big money guys

What would happen IF,big IF, rangers were ever to finish bottom of the league, would they be relegated or would the spl change the rules?, i mean they seem to be saying the spl cant live without them, so what would happen.

I don't know about UEFA but I've had enough of this - SPL has proved that it is incapable of acting against Rangers, the old firm clubs now are just too big to be governed by the SFA.

What's the point of having rules and regulations if the club offending can just say ok, throw us out, and the minor clubs say hang on a minute, this cost us money, yes mr rangers, no mr rangers, whatever you want, are we bending over far enough?

UEFA's only solution is to either ban rangers outright, or move it to a league body that is bigger than they are and they can't throw their weight around.

If rangers move down to the english FA leagues, then the 'tic should be given entry on the same if not better terms.

It has to happen a some point, this all just get more farcical by the day!

Sectarian baggage? Is this the part where you say that ther's no such baggade with Celtic? Oh, I forgot it's political as opposed to sectarian as far as Celtic are concerned.......aye right! I've also heard from a very reliable source that Celtic are INDEED trying to get into the English League and that there is a groundswell in favour of such a move - if it does happen then you lot will have to clean up your act just as much as Rangers would. Burning Union Jacks won't go down too weel down South!!!!!!!

It would explain why PL's been so quiet, keep away from the argument, humour the other SPL clubs, in the knowledge that we're out of here soon guys anyway.

What do you think will happen when Sky attempt to renew the tv deal in 2014?If they lose teams to internet streaming then do you think they will encourage clubs to accept Celtic?Money talks after all.

Jungle Bhoy.

Tv is killing football in Scotland. A complete embargo of all live games must be brought in, reduce the ticket price and go back to highlights on a Saturday night only. For Celtic the other answer is indeed to embrace live TV and join the English leagues but that means the New Arhur Montford will never be found. Depriving the country of a new world beating commentator is a heavy responsibility to carry. Its all such a stramash! Sopot Celt

07 May 2012 17:39:56
If newco are rejected from the SPL are they guaranteed entry into the SFL? I don't think the SPL have the jurisdiction to dictate that. SFL probably don't want them either! {Ed007's Note - There is no guarantee of acceptance into the SFL. Spartans and Cove Rangers would compete against Zombie Rangers for acceptance.}

07 May 2012 17:19:51
I've heard from a friend who works in the Manchester FA office that there is a meeting down in London with representatives from BM's group on wednesday. He thinks newco Rangers are buying some time to for exploratory talks with the English Leagues before commiting to SPL re entry.

Tiny

Actually this could make some sense. newco don't actually have a league to play in next year. No formal acceptance from SPL or even SFL, Miller may be considering this as a back up plan. He'd be daft to buy a club that can't play next year.

They picked the wrong city, Manchester remembers the rangers who destroyed and rioted on their last visit...

Interesting. Would they have to have a stadium on english soil though. The Cardiff, Swansea, wrexham argument has been made clear. They were in English leagues before the rule changed. Now though you have to be based in England. I suppose that's not impossible. Build new stadium. Im exited at the prospect.........of seeing the back of them.

Not sure if relevant. Report on Irish radio, McCoist flying out to US thursday morning, will be in London wed as well. Coincidence?

07 May 2012 15:48:39
Waste of time SPL member clubs put off making a decision again. Lets just be grateful these people don't have responsible jobs in real life - MacDonalds drive thru's would be crap.

07 May 2012 15:39:30
Decision put off again....what a surprise....could Bill Millar not make his flight? What a joke this country is....i'd say 3rd World country...but that would be disrespectful to those countrys

07 May 2012 16:51:26
With todays SPL meeting postponed on request of Rangers, I think it is
time for all Celtic fans to make their voices heard.
The Celtic Trust are meeting Doncaster tomorrow and want all fans opinions
email them at celtictrust@hotmail.com Let's make our opinions known Timalloy

For the delegation...Mr Doncaster is an arrogant fellow and slippery as an eel, which together with the fact that he is a jellyfish will make the discussions pointless. He never has Cod mornay as he doesn't want to eat his relatives. Seriously he is a lawyer and an MBA, and as such he is a master BS****er. Charming, caring, attentive and empathetic, the minute he leaves the room he will be laughing at all of us. Dont believe a word he says. Sopot Celt

Let's see if Doncaster walks out the same way Regan did with rangers fans. These people aren't fit to run our game. BNB

Thought Doncaster would bring positive change to scottish football but he has been groomed just like his forebearers to be rangers minded. Wish celtic could find a way to get away to a league with fairness and integrity as its motto.

07 May 2012 16:14:13
We don't do walking away , looks like they don't do turning up either .Pathetic they cant even turn up for one of the most important meetings in history . Their arrogance shows no bounds........DH

07 May 2012 15:37:30
Scottish Premier League clubs meeting at Hampden have delayed voting on financial fair play rules until 30 May.
Proposals for increased penalties for clubs in administration include the docking of 10 points for two seasons and the loss of 75% of income for three years.
Dunfermline chairman John Yorkston told BBC Scotland there was not enough information to make a decision.
Rangers did not attend today's SPL meeting at Hampden.
Current rules state that, should a member club wish to transfer its share in the league to a new company, the decision to accept or reject lies with the SPL board

07 May 2012 15:30:50
So the SPL have delayed their decision. Whay=t a joke and they have shown what a spineless bunch they are. If it had been Celtic in the position you can bet it would have been done and dusted by Feb 16th! Now its back to the bargaining table and deals being made.

07 May 2012 13:05:00
ed/tim/usual suspects on here...

going to costa susanna (20min outside barcelona) tomorrow for the week,just wanting to know if there is any tic pubs in or around costa susanna/barcelona that any of you might know?

lenny

Lenny one I have been in is the
Wooden Spoon Irish Bar, C/Paradis, Barcelona..
I also know there are at least 3 other Celtic/Irish bars around Barcelona
or go to Celticbars.com or Bars S which list all Celtic pubs around the world.
Hail hail Timalloy

Lorette de mar, not to far

07 May 2012 11:49:02
so scottish football is finished without rangers
celtic win league,kilmarnock l/cup
hearts/hibs scottish cup......more chances for other teams me thinks........col

07 May 2012 11:33:55
if a Rangers Newco does remains in the SPL because other clubs are doing it for financial reasons, and the integrity of the game is damaged, by this favoritsm, then i urge every Celtic fan to boycott away grounds, lets hit these clubs finacially and bring them to their knees, for supporting a club that has broken the rules, has cheated for over a decade and is an embarressment to scottish football
NO CELTIC FANS IN AWAY GROUNDS NEXT SEASON

All teams should do the same. if not that means rangers rule the spl. if it was a club other than the o/f they would be out in a minute. the only way is to stick together on this.

Has lawell been quoted as to what he thinks? What happens if they vote to keep any newco? BNB

I understand the sentiments to a degree and would dearly love R*ngers to disappear completely never mind to the 3rd division. However, what do we do if PL votes financially rather than morally along with the rest of them? Do we boycott Celtic? I think we had better wait and see how PL has voted before we start talking about boycotting any grounds. I’m not sure I’m ready to turn my back on a team I have loved and supported for as long as I can remember. Frankiebhoy. (Ed007 - Hope you enjoyed your birthday last week.) {Ed007's Note - Thanks Frankie.}

Totally agree, let's boycott all away games if this indeed comes to pass, only exception I would say would be Dunfermline if they stay up. Their Chairman has been the only one with enough balls to put his head above the parapet.

Missing out on away support revenue is the other mobs threat....so all u do hear is say....Rangers supporters are correct!! There arevother ways to protest....like Celtic Park to ban away fans....let the SPL take us on for that one....so we can have our QC rip them a new one

I agree to an extent. Why would we punish our great club by having no support at any away ground? I would like for Celtic or the supporters to agree a set amount of supporters that should attend each away game ie 2 or 3 hundred. That way the clubs will still be hit in the pocket but the hoops still get supported.

07 May 2012 00:34:45
Alright bhoys, just watching MOTD it's just so fantastic! The goals the saves,tackles,results league positions love watching the EPL it is great entertainment you can't deny that! I'm a tim through n through and love watching my team play fast,good entertaining footy (not like other teams hrmrrfc). But I seems like MOTD just get better each week! Loving it! Some tackle on Hutton too eh? That's a leg breaker! But dish it out got tae take it!
Night bhoys
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