Celtic Rumours Archive September 06 2012

06 Sep 2012 22:13:22
Watched the Scotland under 21s. Tony Watt did well as did most of the team. Still wish we had got Johnny Russell on board. Julieghirl

06 Sep 2012 16:13:18
Evening Ed, I've just found my Match Program from the Uefa Cup Final versus Porto. Just wondering if you or anyone else knows what sort of price i could get if i were to sell it.

St Mikey {Ed007's Note - Have a look on here Mikey:

www.celticprogrammesonline.com/pricewatch.htm

Cheers Ed.

St Mikey {Ed007's Note - :-)

What would you take for it St Mikey? Id be interested if your looking to punt it.

Nah mate, i wasn't planning on selling i was just curious about how much i could sell it for. But thanks for the offer anyway. :)

St Mikey

You'd get about a tenner lol.
After the final Celtic printed thousands of them and sold them at Celtic park . Most people will have them {Ed007's Note - You can tell if it is one of the originals or the later editions and the original ones are worth more money.}

It's funny that this came up cause after the draw for cl I found a program for 06/07 Celtic vs Benfica in me room. Could this be a sign that we can make it through? I can see it, ppls eyes are going to open and see the sight of the green and white. Good times ahead. C-Bhoy

I bought 6 in Seville and gave them to friends that I had arranged to meet in Seville on day of the game. I then went on to leave mine on the bus after the game and never saw it again. They were going for £200 weeks after the game.

I have a program from 1966/1967 season against some vovidjina or something its from the away leg and is just one page printed in Hungarian on one side and English on the other does anyone know if this is worth money

Hail hail

Marco1888

I have 2 .... 1 signed 1 unsigned and I'm open to offers

My program is worth 1000 I just found out now to see about selling it lol

Hail hail

Marco1888

06 Sep 2012 10:54:39
www.celticbars.com/ ed this is a link to celtic bars a-z , nearly every day people come on here asking where they can watch the games while on holiday, this is a great site , lists them all worldwide, hope this is helpful to everybody.. shamrock

Remember on holiday in t borders lookin at that site draggin t mrs into dumfries 2 check oot their celtic bar walkin throo the door 2 find only 1 punter sittin w his rangers top on.. Neilly

06 Sep 2012 00:46:21
Hi there Ed,

I have only posted a few times, but I wanted to post my opinion on Gary Hooper to garner fellow supporters' thoughts. For me, Hooper has not kicked a ball in anger for a good while now. I am not for one minute saying he is a bad player because on his day he can be phenomenal. I am, however, starting to doubt his effort in many of our games. A large majority of fans beside me (North Stand Upper) have become disillusioned with Hooper and have accused him of downright laziness. On Saturday, for example, young Tony Watt put in a real shift, but Hooper looked completely disinterested. I do not know if it is because he wanted a move to the EPL(a rumour that I keep on hearing) but , for me, he is resting on his laurels. Not only is he lacking that killer touch, but he is overweight at the moment. I just don't get where the ˜legend' tag has came from at all. Good player, but if he has aspirations of playing for Barcelona, he better get the finger out... starting in the Nou Camp BHOYS ;)

Fergiebhoy {Ed007's Note - Hi Fergie, welcome to the site, opinions are always welcome here. Hooper's agent worked all summer to get him a move to the EPL, he wasn't exactly discreet about it. Southampton (and others) wouldn't meet CFC's asking price and signed Jay Rodriguez instead. Whether it is the cause for a dip in form I don't know. Don't let all this new contract talk fool you, that is only to give Hooper a pay rise and has been spoke about since 2011. Hooper has a LONG way to go before he can even be considered a CFC great never mind a legend.}

Think he has lost his scoring touch, don't think he is lazy,some of his running off the ball has been great this season i don't think his work rate has lessened any just believe he need's a bit of luck in front of goal.
Tambhoy ( original )

Like a few players he's not at his best early on in the season. Like a few players he wants to play in England one day. Get over it. He'll come good again.

He's a good player and thats about it, if we get a decent offer then i wouldn't mind him leaving.

I think he is still not match fit and a bit overwieght, much the same as the way he started last season.
He looks as though he could be a player just like scott macdonald who starts each season with a few extra holiday pounds and takes time to catch up.
Not really acceptable but if hes feeling comfortable with being a first pick will then thats thats part of his problem.
I personally think he is very, very over rated!

Now, I don't want to be labelled 'One of them', or ' a sevco fan', but I don't rate Hooper. Grabted he puts the ball away, but for a Centre forward he is the easiest player in the Team to Mark. His Left foot is non-existant, and he wont/can't/doesn't head the ball. For a Centre forward that only uses 1 foot, it's a joke really. How many times have you seen him take 4 touches to get it under control and on to his right foot for the shot? not really good enough for a Celtic Centre Forward. I would have sold him in the summer. It's only my opinion, and I will get hammered for it.

Samson

Ed, agree with every word.

Nice OP.

I would agree with your points. Hooper reminds me abit like Viduka, great impact but was always chasing the money.

Don't understand why he would knock back CL football for EPL, clearly motivated by greed. He would not get in to any of the top 4 teams, even as a squad player.

The thing about Hooper is that he knows he is one of the first names on the team sheet. Even half fit you would play him over Stokes etc. That is why I am glad we managed to bring in two new faces. Not seen them play but they sound hungry and up for it!

Ed, do you know what CFC's asking price for Hooper is?

Linnie88 {Ed007's Note - It was offers over £7 million Linnie.}

Hooper has been our top scorer since landing in paradise, i can't believe this talk is coming from fellow supporters , so please go back to your own div 3 page and be happy that yous are the only div 3 club in the world that are on this site (should've been dropped from site when yous liquidated/died) ,.,.kbarry {

Agree with the first reply (tambhoy) i'm sure his luck will come soon and start knocking them in for fun, He definitly has to loose some weight alright seen him after the last match with shirt off and defo could loose a few lbs... he will come good bhoys keep the faith..Goreybhoy

You guys are really off with your thoughts of hooper, maybe you guys don't see what he does off the ball or if he doesn't have the ball you don't notice him. You would see hooper a bunch of times in a game running back to mid to help move the ball around, he has GREAT touch for when the ball comes at his feet he can control it and bring it in no problem(ex the commons goal last year against the darkside when hooper was along the touch line and kept it in with in a inch). Go back and watch them last game and you would see hooper in the right places just some ppl don't get thier head up to see his runs, he had3-4 ppl around him and made a great pass to Mathews to give us a cross and a good chance on net, he took a shot and hit the cross bar by quickly taking a touch before hitting a powerfull shot and got his head in the ball just to have no luck. Just because he is not scoring doesn't mean he is out of it, yes his finishes has not been like last season and should have 4 more goals then he does now because his shooting is off a wee bit but it's only been 3 games ppl!! 50 goals in 2 seasons and yous are saying you would let him go, our top striker, you ppl are really sad after the season has just started and you are saying get rid of this guy and that guy cause they have a bad game. For f**k sakes relax and think before you start saying how bad players are just cause they may do one bad thing, it's not hooper being lazy its yous who can't remember or watch a game proper, for your just lazy in making up shiat cause your upset. Your sounding like the fans of the club that are no more.

As I said Ed. Being Labelled a Sevco Fan because I have an Opinion. I don't rate him. He will not use his left peg. When he scored 5 against Hearts last season, he took the ball round the keeper for one of the goals. When he was past the keeper, instead of hitting it with his left, which would have been easier. He took 4 touches to compose himself on his right peg before he hit it. Any striker worth his salt will be comfortable on either foot or with his head, which Hooper sadly is not.

Samson {Ed007's Note - I have a friend (yes I do have them) who would happily sell Hooper for anything over what we paid for him, he just doesn't rate him. I tend to stick up for him because I think goal-scoring in the box is one of the few naturally instinctive things in the game, you can't teach that.}

Well said the hooper fans, i think its a disgrace the comments from some so called fans regarding the player.Give him the proper service and he will score goals, last season a perfect example .I dont recall him getting abuse last season when he scored five in one match ,its difficult enough without your own fans giving you a hard time.

At no point did I say Hooper was a bad palyer. I said he is motivated by greed and reminds me of Viduka.

Linnie88

For someone who was labeled disintrested v Hibs, he was helluva unlucky not to bag a brace. 2 massive goals in Europe this season and top scorer in the past 2 seasons and still people doubt him? Top quality for me.

Samson, you are giving hooper a hard time because he took his time to control the ball and make sure it goes in, instead of taking an unbalanced shot with his left because it is what all players do? That is by far the dumbest thing I have ever heard, if he did do that and missed his shot would you rate him as a good player just because he used his left? I for one love the fact that he would rather take his time and make sure to score then just take a quick shot. Wtf he scores and you say that's not good enough, you seem like a person that doesn't like what the team does if it goes against your thinking because what you said is the top nit picking I have seen and heard. Tell us how his 49+ other goals didn't meet your standard of play? 50+goals from (let's just go by what you say) only his right leg, is hell of a lot better then some player that can use both and just get 10 goals a season. And where he might not use his left a lot he makes that up with his work off the ball.

What I find a joke on this page is you get labelled a Sevco fan if you have an opinion. You so called 'Celtic' fans are a disgrace to slag fellow fans for having an opinion on a player. We pay our money, just like you. We don't live in Nazi Germany where no-one can speak out lads. We live in a democratic country and I respect everyones opinion no matter how different they are from mine. Hooper is over rated and is resting on his laurels. You talk about scoring 50 goals a season, but its in the SPL. Do you not remember the King scoring 50? Now that is a legend. We get 20-25 chances per match at home and as a Celtic forward, Hooper should at least be scoring 25. Remember he is getting paid to do that and more often than not, he is lazy! Do you not remember Hooper in the cup finals, semi finals that we lost. He was an utter disgrace and I lost a lot of respect for him after they performances.

To the person that posted abovr my last post(no name left). I have watched Hooper for 2 years at Celtic, and theres no denying he is a goalscorer, but he is predictable. I play in goals and would love to face him, as I know nothing will happen from him until its shifted to his right foot. We have excellent wingers who can provide excellent service, but no Strikers who will gamble in the air. usually have to leave that for Wanyama or Ledley to get in the box. If think Barca, Spartak and Benfica will have him well scouted. I would also ask you to watch Hooper play, and note how very one sided he is. Maybe i've been spoiled watching Larsson, Sutton, Hartson, who would break their neck to get their head on the ball, and would shoot as soon as the opportunity arose. But it's only an opinion

Samson

Hooper was only our top goalscorer last season because Stokes didn't get anywhere as much game time (they were level until late in the season) and wouldn't have been anywhere near top SPL scorer had Jellyfish not jumped ship. No doubting he can score goals but he's way over rated in my opinion. I would swap for Rhodes in a heartbeat. Think Miku will be a massive hit for us.

Remember the 3 - 0 Ranger game at Parkheed?

Hooper - What a Star.

Its so early in to the season.

Just watch and enjoy.

First off to the guy who is talking about how ppl are getting called a newco fan just for disagreeing with others is wrong. No where in this discussion have I seen someone call another a newco or insult another, so this just leaves the question as to what you are up to?
Samson, it doesn't matter if he is one sided or if you think you can stop him because in the end he gets the job done. maybe he is smarter with the ball and that is being underestimated seeing how he is so predictable and all golies should be able to stop him. I started following during the larsson era and I did it as well holding high expectations on players now a days but I realize(and I think a lot more fans need to) that times have changed. But hooper is maybe the best player we have brought in because of the goals and his over all play(look at some highlights with his vision and passing) I don't say that just cause I think he is the best but the impact and how important he has been. I mean there is a debate about that and I myself have a hard time picking the best player. But each player is different, in the end all it comes down to is do they get the job done and with hooper he does. And if ppl think hooper is lazy the n they must think stokes is sleeping in the game cause stokes stops moving and complains when the ball doesn't go his way, it is his complain and anger at other team players is why I think nl keeps him out. If he worked harder and stop complaining he would be in cause he is a good striker.
Forgot to put me name before..... C-Bhoy

Samaras at the start of last season, Hooper at the beginning of this.

There is always one player who will incur the rath of supporters justified or otherwise.

It is too early to be getting too hung up.

Been reading this thread with interest as it is a situation I am in touch with. Where I fully respect people opinions of Gary in a footballing term, some people accusations about his personal attributes are way way off. From a footballing view, Gary has not been on top form scoring wise. However, his all round play has improved on last term and his off the ball work and work rate has been 1st class. He's the 1st to admit he needs to up his game in front of goal. Believe me. What has really got be here is 1 poster in the guise of a Celtic fan claiming garys motivation is greed. This could not be further from the truth. If it was, he wouldn't be at CP. Champions league football is this seasons main motivation. As for ed claiming valuations were not met? Incorrect. To many posters working off hear'say not enough working off fact.

MG (real initials)

Super Dooper Gary Hooper, the Bhoy is a predator. Watch him go in the Champions league. Ian L

Is this a wind-up post. One poster complaining Hooper only scores with his right foot!?!? and another complaining he only can score in SPL!?!? Hooper has been top scorer at out club since he came to us. What more do you want? As for lazy players who don't look interested, start a post about Stokes and/or McCourt. Hbhoy {Ed007's Note - I actually think Hooper and Stokes are too similar, Stokes has a great scoring record as well when you look at the stats.}

Samson you say you fancy facing hooper ha ha ha, who do you play for?,.,.kbarry