Celtic Rumours Archive June 04 2014

04 Jun 2014 19:36:08
I saw a rumour that we are fighting it out with West Ham for the signing of Julian Scheiber (spelling) from Dortmund. The guy is 25 and has scored just over 20 goals in his club career. Surely this isn't what we need. And any player that Sam Allardyce is chasing should be avoided at all costs!

Who is in charge of signings at present?

The Scottish Media, no one else would link us with a non scoring striker

04 Jun 2014 11:36:23
Talksh1t radio saying Robin Dellia from stromgodset in running for managers post. Worrying times if true IMO

How is that worrying? Sounds quite promising

Not at all, worrying times would be ignoring all possibilities and going for coyle.

Why exactly is that worrying? Bringing in a young manager who apprently plays good attacking football and has worked wonders with a small club. Personally I think it's very refreshing as opposed to giving managers like Keane, Coyle or Housten a look in

Don't see how this is worrying, by all accounts he is a good coach. might need a Celtic head as an assistant or first team coach to help him bed in, but that wouldn't be a problem.

Possible different ideas could mean more excitement for next season.

04 Jun 2014 12:48:59
How is this worrying? The guy clearly has something about him. He led them to a Norwegian cup and took them from 12th to league winners. If anything this is a massive coup for us, a young up and coming manager who is tactically aware and brings fast paced attacking football, just look at Stefan Johannsen, the kind of players this guy likes to produce. Exciting times ahead if you ask me

Not worrying at all. Thinks this would be a great appointment. Modern attacking football with youth, that's is what is required. Hail Hail

One minute were being linked with former premiership managers with experience then get linked with unknown managers from a league worse than spfl. If you want to sign an unknown manager I would rather it be from Spain Italy France Germany holland Portugal this guy might be good and there is no guarantees with anyone but it is totally uninspiring and appears to be a continuing downgrading at our club if he is to become manager. I can already see the headline celtic sign man who lost 15-0 only a couple months ago.

I'm with 70's Jimmy. So much so I'm totally going to ignore this link as having any substance! There's a few on here happy though so I'll just accept being the minority I guess. Sigh.

Who had heard of wim jansen as a manager before 1997?

D'you not mean Ronny Deila? Player / asst manager at Stromsgodset since 2006, manager since manager since 2008. Won one league and one cup in six yrs? League stats are:

2008: 11/14 (P26, W8, D5, L13, F33, A44)
2009: 12/16 (P30, W10, D6, L14, F40, A42)
2010: 07/16 (P30, W13, D4, L13, F51, A59)
2011: 08/16 (P30, W12, D9, L9, F44, A43)
2012: 02/16 (P30, W17, D7, L6, F62, A40)
2013: 01/16 (P30, W19, D6, L5, F66, A26)

Can't say I've heard of him or know what his style of play, etc is like - but that record does not impress me in the slightest.

As you said there is no guarantees with anyone. All manager great good or bad have to start somewhere. Managers such as Mourinho, Klopp and AVB have had humble beginnings and gone on to be great managers. He seems to be suited to our style and I don't think this is a lack of ambition. I actually think it's more ambitious to appoint a young manager who has a good track record than EPL cast offs who have all failed and are uninspiring.

I personally think this would be a good move, totally diff concept from what everyone has been saying to me it's a +ve step to better football.

Hamilton Bhoy - are you actually serious?

HamiltonBhoy, I think those stats are great. This guy is managing in a league far more competitive in ours, the top 3 finishers in this league change pretty much every year. As for the winner only Rosenberg and Molde have won back to back titles in recent years. Don't forget the main stat of all, they finished top last year. Champions.

As you've mentioned avb Jose and klopp it backs up my call of appoint someone from football nations that are respected Germany Portugal Spain France holland, I've not heard of many people recommending Norway as a nation to pick up managers.if he was to be assistant I could possibly understand it but never manager

He hasn't spent a bean, and still outdid the equivalent of Celtic/the other mob in Rosenberg and Molde. The thing that I like is he isn't scared to go and learn from other top managers, - supposedly he's been at Barca/Ajax/Man C, Utd/Dortmund to name a few. We have to many dinosaur managers that think they know better, think they know it all, and won't change the way they play regardless. They come out with the same old nonsense about working hard/being good at set-pieces, these should be a given. At club level/Internationally we have been shown up and completely humbled compared to say Italy/Spain/Germany. Moyes was found out at Man Utd, supposedly the players thought his ideas were from the dark ages, even Martin O'Neil couldn't handle Di Canio saying his Sunderland team wasn't fit enough, - In the uk we think we have a monopoly on how football should be played/how things should be done, but guess what, we have been left behind!

I'm deadly serious Anton + Garry. I'm just as weary of going for someone unheard of to someone we know will struggle like Owen Coyle. I wouldn't describe finishing mid to bottom table in Norway's top flight for 4 yrs, runners up then winners once each as great. If that's all it takes to be a candidate for manager of the Scottish champions nowadays then Stuart McCall, Derek Adams, Darren Ferguson, etc must all be contenders as well then?!

I was on yesterday saying how I would prefer us to go down the roots and go for lambert or jackie mac, if we went for another option though I would definetely take a gamble on this guy. Young ambitious and let's face it we have nothing to lose and won't really spend a lot in compensation, I do agree tho, nobody had heard of wim Jansen as the guy earlier posted, also just seen that his agent was seen leaving parkhead, the same agent of johansen, this was showing on tv btw in which it actually showed the guy so something must be going on. By guiding this stromsgotset team from 12th to champions does speak volumes and I think he's certainly worth a punt

I know nothing about the guy but what looks obv is that his team progresses every year.Lookin at the stats HB it looks like this guy has done the equivalent of St. Johnstone winnin the league here.If that actually happened wudnt we be hailing the St.Johnstone manager as the next Stein/Fergie/Morinho?

{Ed007's Note - Stromsgodset are losing 1-0 at half-time away to second division Tromsdalen in the Norwegian cup - he's perfect for the CFC job! ;)

I think most fans are so fed up with the delay that we'd take Delia feckin Smith as our new manager never mind Robin Deila!

If you look at his record fi a negative point of view then he's a bit inconsistent, fi a positive view there's steady-ish improvement tbh. If he's as good as the Norwegian's have made him out to be then I'd be happy to see whit he's got in his locker!

Keane is out the frame. now all we need is Coyle to be discounted and i'll be happy.

Well most on here thought Garcia would be a good appointment and he couldn't get the mighty Brighton out the championship and is now plying his trade at the mighty maccabi tel aviv maybe this boy will do ok

Knocked out cup 4-2 tonite by 2nd div team sign him apparently they played well!

Jim grow up mate. One bad result in cup competition, pretty sure Morton knocked us out last year and they were also relegated. This guy is the level our club is now at, I'd be willing to be the brings success. Obviously our scouts haven't just been watching players.

{Ed007's Note - So you think PL was preparing to replace NL all season? Interesting...}

Jim1972, and your recommendation for manager would be?. People who actually watch football outwith the world of Sky will tell you he is an excellent young manager who has, importantly, modern views on football and how to play the game. I, for one, would be happy with someone like this, rather than the Coyles of this world. If I had to choose a UK based manager, it would be Steve Clarke.

Well said Garry92, one stupid result doesn't reflect the guys reputation or potential. It's the exact same as the Morton game last season or the Ross county in Lennons first for few games or even when the mighty Barcelona were beaten by us! Upsets happen its part n parcel of the game! I really think the positives have to be looked upon, he, s 38 who is only going to get better and supposedly He likes to play attacking football and develop young players into gems. There's a bit of a ring to that as that's what we have been doing the last few years with signings? Johansen played with his team and from what I've saw he, a probably our best midfielder overall and that's sad saying it since he only came in January, he's always closing down and very attack minded, why not take a gamble? Instead of going for all the stupid British based under achievers, ie keane coyle etc

Garry you should be embarrassed to say that stromgodset is our level now they play in front of a couple of thousand people have you settled to being at that level?
Cmac I would look for Clarke/rosler/Evans in uk before tinny and in Europe there are numerous clubs punching above their size in top leagues like getafe rayo vallecano hereenveen if you want unknowns.

Jim I didn't say the club were at our level, I said the manager. He's a young exciting up and coming manager who clearly has a lot of potential. This is what we need to be looking for, not some sacked manager from down south who's looking to repair a tarnished reputation or a manager who would demand a huge wage and transfer budget.

If that is where we're at then Gary why are the board even talking to keane and why would they consider moyes Clarke etc or is it just a smokescreen to kid fans on?

I would be all for Deila getting the job.
Unlike other candidates he hasn't yet failed at any job . Most if not all have had more failures in their career than success .

We obviously don't know the ins and outs behind the scenes but the way I see it it, Desmond wanted Keane and only Desmond. Lawwell in my eyes is doing the right thing here. All these names are paper talk, can we really believe most of the names mentioned were actually targets?