Celtic Rumours Archive March 03 2012

03 Mar 2012 22:52:07
gossip galore on the train back from the game today.

was there something said in a press conference, or by mccoist this morning?

i've heard that at least 4 players (current) contracts are being declared as illegal, and as such, any points gained when they have played will be deducted. i always thought this was dodgy, when i posted a while back about it being 3rd party ownership, it was done so that these players cannot be classed as rangers assets, therefore, if they were sold, money would go to whyte instead of rangers.

also heard that ogilvie is heavily implicated in this, AND the seperate contracts given during the EBT's, which as i stated before, were still being used up until the end of 2010.

another bit of a shady rumour, this time from an aberdeen fan, is that there are currently 2 former referees being investigated after documents were unearthed at ibrox by strathclyde police. the only thing i can think of is backhanders.

craig whyte has probably opened the biggest can of worms EVER!


taco {Ed007's Note - I mentioned the 3rd party ownership thing elsewhere Taco.}

That's right Ed, it was with myself a while back. but we thought it wouldn't be an issue, as the other company is connected to rangers. but it turns out that the only thing that connects the two are the name rangers, there is no financial securities or liabilities on the 2nd company, therefore meaning it's basically craig whyte that owns the players contracts and not rangers


taco {Ed007's Note - No Taco, I was talking to someone earlier today about it and then answered a post earlier about this points deduction.}

No worries Ed, i see it now.

definitely looks like a sion situation, and the fact ogilvie is involved makes it an even bigger embarassment for the sfa


taco {Ed007's Note - I said months ago that Ogilvie must have questions to answer, his position at Rangers suggests he was involved in any wrong doing at the club.}

Honestly...if the investigations by the police, sfa, and spl are handled fairly and without any cover ups, this will blow up in so many peoples faces.

there's going to be allegations of corruption and fraud at the highest levels.....people are going to get seriously f@cked when it all comes out in the wash


taco {Ed007's Note - It will make Jim Farry look like a naughty schoolboy Taco.}

Could this be bad news for us as well though?

If sh-t hits the fan regarding suits in the SFA and SPL, surely that deems them untrustworthy and corrupt?

If the governing body are declared corrupt, could UEFA withdraw Scotland's CL and EL places, with heavy sanctions for direct participants in any underhanded dealings (i.e. Rangers if true).

And if that was to happen, how much planning was involved by the Whyte and other "in the know" directors of Rangers about leading Scottish football to these consequences. I.e., would there be an element of "if we're going down, you're all coming with us?" such that the gap between Celtic and any other clubs that might flourish with Rangers' demise would be considerably smaller with no (potential of) European money.

I would seriously doubt UEFA would place sanctions on the member clubs. more likely the sfa will deal with them like farry, in other words, be seen to be doing something.
it would be wrong, and unjust for UEFA to punish clubs that played no part in this.

i believe whyte has no clue as to what's going on regarding this, other than the fact he was brought in by murray to ride out administration. obviously, that plan has failed spectacularly, and now his own little scheme is being unravelled.

there are so many seperate issues, involving so many different people connected to rangers, but one man is central to everything that has come out...david murray. whyte's just a fly-by-night chancer, with a brass neck and balls of steel....DM is a knight of the realm!


taco

The thing is though UEFA already threatened to ban all Swiss clubs from European competitions over the Sion case. That was a club deemed corrupt, and UEFA threatened club expulsion. If the governing body is deemed corrupt, surely that's even worse?

In the end the Swiss FA decided to punish Sion accordingly and thus preserve Basel's place in Europe and return everything to normal as regards Swiss clubs in Europe for the forseeable future.

But who punishes the football association if it's them who are corrupt? And what can really be done by a association besides a lengthy enquiry and sacking of those involved? FIFA and UEFA are the two who'd be concerned with this, and the associations need to adhere by their regulations. Punishment could mean a fine, a ban or expulsion from the association; the latter meaning we lose the European places and our international qualification places.

I dont think we would have much to worry about.What might happen is UEFA call for a clear out and re-election of all the relevant posts vacated by the guilty parties.You never know it might even help us to start in england at some level! now that would be ironic..........green jhedi

03 Mar 2012 22:18:16
Got to say didnt fancy NLs team selection today especially the full backs , Chico in mid field , Forest and Hooper reading to much press . Park was poor but no excuses thought it was below par showing also ref had a crap game ....".DH

03 Mar 2012 20:09:25
Arite bhoys and ghirls after today's results are we still able to win the league at ibrokes?
Hobbybhoy {Ed007's Note - Rangers must WIN against Dundee United or we can win it at Ibrox.}

Think it would also need for Motherwell to drop points at any of the following ganes v aberdeen 17th or killie on the 24th Ed as mathimatically they could still catch us in the league . so it would need Dundee utd to beat rangers and killie or aberdeen to take any points off motherwell for us to win the league on the 25th .i know Motherwell aint going to catch us im just pointing it out and the press will jump on this to say we cant win the league on the 25th

however being honest i dont see the game on the 25th even taking place i really dont think they can avoid liquidation before that date

Lubo25

Either way ed we`re still gonny win the league, you really must believe us,you really must believe us,you really must believe us,, we`re gonny win the league.hail hail,just can`t get enough,kb-bhoy

03 Mar 2012 18:52:06
Hi Ed how's it going? Makes me laugh that Rangers fans are saying the referees are corrupt and cheating and always giving decisions against them lol. They not remember last season. {Ed007's Note - Referees are not cheats, corrupt or bias, they are just shockingly poor.}

That's what happens when you can't afford to pay your staff. They turn against you! Lol

Ice Man

I think the ref's are on less money now how else can u explain the drastic change in decisions

The ESTABLISHMENT are now playing
fair. About time

They are poor - but do you see us hounding them outta the game??

03 Mar 2012 17:11:56
very bad news re gers in papers mon/tues.source/alistair mccoist.%100 true.artybhoy

Well done mystic meg

Why don't you just say what it is and put 'allegedly' in front of it?

No sh*t sherlock! how can you keep that to yourself lol. we all know whats coming and people who post whats happening in the next few days have a knack of not knowin! they could win the euro millions and be safe by then

03 Mar 2012 14:24:10
Thought it a bit strange to give debuts to the new boys at full back away from home in what would be a hard game but in saying that the whole team just didnt get going.Is it still possible for Celtic to win the league at ibrokes?

It,ll all be over before then mate.that game aint happening.artybhoy

Motherwell are also in the equation.

03 Mar 2012 13:56:47
Draw just about right? long time since we carried so many passengers,hoops,stokes no service,forrest poor,full backs need more time i thought.lots of soft fouls from thomson.big players rested and should be fresh though. onward and upwards..HH..........green jhedi

Thought hooper was well off the pace today,but he's been immense for us so many times before.sunday mail probably have a cracked crest in it tomorrow,lol

Hooper had a shocker first touch terrible,young jamsie looks as though he could do with a rest, commons better of without him and giving 2 new full backs debuts at a tricky away game seemed strange to me.

But other than that in Lenny we trust?lol. Hoops needs a rest other than that the changes were needed because so many players away on international duty. Gained a point on them with half a team against the form side in the league Hail Hail

Only saw the last half hour or so but from what I saw I have to say I was very disappointed.

Hooper and Stokes were terrible all round - no first touch, poor linkup play and looked disinterested. Commons needs to sort his game out big time or find the nearest exit in the summer - Lennon's been giving him a shot of and he's been the worst player on the park more often than not. The midfield wasn't good enough at picking up the loose ball and Arneson, Fyvie and co. had a field day punting it forward.

Lustig looked lightweight but in fairness the weather didn't help him.

Not going to worry too much though - we were missing key players and we've been long overdue an off-day...may as well come with several players out. To be fair to Aberdeen from what I saw they deserved their point and had some good performances in the middle of the park. We looked tired and lacked creativity. We'll need to be better to beat Dundee United at Tannadice.