Celtic Rumours Archive June 29 2012

 

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29 Jun 2012 23:24:02
fraser forster signs deal at celtic according to the daily fail.

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If its true why is it not on slysports f***in joke do it is (slysports that is) hailhail

Paulbhoy010

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29 Jun 2012 23:23:50
Evening Ed and all the bhoys out there!
First off love this site check into it all day!
Just a few things I wondered if you could help me on?
Is Lennon on holiday it's just I haven't heard a peep from him in weeks with all the ongoings the last few weeks with Alan Thompson getting sacked and the long and getting boring saga of what's happening at the other end of Glasgow thought we might of heard From our leader! When do we report back for preseason? And lastly when we start our champions league qualifying campaign? Thanks Ed keep up the good work! Cheers

Gaz! {Ed007's Note - - Thanks Gaz and welcome to Wonka's Chocolate Factory, where everyday is a new adventure. Players will start to report back next week and our first CL game is on 31st July. NL has had nothing to say, probably best he keeps a low profile, he would just be answering questions about AT, Rangers etc to give the media their headlines.}

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Don't you think it should be Mr Peter Lawwell that should be answering your questions and not NL? Hbhoy.

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29 Jun 2012 21:48:55
sign this bhoys its to show support against sevco fc getting into div 1. hail hail. Marco1888

http://t.co/5eaGO7tv

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Petition signed, how many signatures are you hoping to get.

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I would but dont see why i should have to pay for the privilege! {Ed007's Note - You don't pay, that is a standard page that is looking for donations to cover costs for the whole site. Your signature is still lodged.}

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I tried posting this yesterday Ed , thought there was some legal reason you didn't post it, in a huff now lol get it signed people

Bigbr {Ed007's Note - Sorry mate, I'm blaming an English Ed for that one! You just can't get the staff. My sex-crazed secretary is useless, I asked her to find a file earlier and she had lost it!!!}

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29 Jun 2012 21:45:04
Ed,what do you think club wiil do for the fans next season as we are all paying roughly 500 quid for season ticket but we wont get our usual 2 old firm games do you think they should do cheap 3 match packages for season ticket holders for euro games,whatever comp we will be in {Ed007's Note - Unless you paid extra to get derby tickets I don't see why the club should do anything.}

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I'd jump at the chance to pay 500 to see my Bhoys every week.

GoldCoastBhoy

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29 Jun 2012 21:43:03
Just returned from a great week away supporting Portugal in the Algarve . Shut myself off from Scottish media and now I'm catching up on the banter and rumour pages . What I'm really disappointed about is that we've not got a goalie yet , what's happening with big Forster , I remember reading he had signed but still nothing......DH {Ed007's Note - Welcome back mate. The deal for Forster isn't dead, it is just stalled for now, it could go either way. It seems it is over a minimum release clause for £4 million that Forster (his agent) wants included.}

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Cheers Ed , has the Craig Gordon back up plan still got legs or is there any body else .....DH {Ed007's Note - Gordon has been spoken to and it seems he would be happy to sign, but he isn't going to wait for ever. It needs sorted ASAP, Smithies and Forde are also possible and there would be some foreigners on the list as well I would imagine.}

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29 Jun 2012 21:31:10
all genuine football fans should email the SFA and SPL demanding the resignations of Regan and Doncaster along with Ogilvie, these people are unfit for purpose and they should go now. lets send emails and letters, hopefully 60000 letters and emails and then the SFA and SPL will have to act
these 3 people are a disgrace and corrupt to the core and they are now using threats and balckmial techniques
the fans should now demand their IMMEDIATE RESIGNATIONS

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29 Jun 2012 21:15:23
Ed further to the wee convo earlier what do u or anyone think the chances are of us signing Simon Kjaer. I think he is top notch. As you said there was a fallout with Magarth but I'm sure lots of players have had a falling out with him, and kjaer has never really struck me as a primadonna!

I assume wages would be a problem given he was at roma albeit on loan. But for what we need he fits the bill imo. Although he will prob end up in england What does everyone think? If a package can be put together I think he is worth it. I've seen him play a bit He has pace, can play a decent long ball. Is solid in the air and in the tackle and can read the game pretty darn well aswell all in my opinion of course and I am no scout lol

Evinguu {Ed007's Note - He is a great player Evinguu but we would never be able to match his wages. He was supposedly looking for £100k a week two years ago, when he was leaving Palermo, to move to England, Tottenham and Arsenal were very keen but wouldn't pay that. He signed for Wolfsburg instead for around £50k a week (18 million kr p.a.).

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29 Jun 2012 20:40:37
any truth in the isaksson rumours ed?
think he woud be a fantastic signing

green hornet {Ed007's Note - No. It was a spam story, I know who started it.}

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Was it you started it ED you bad boy! {Ed007's Note - Of course not. That is far too small wind up for me!}

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29 Jun 2012 20:21:56
ED007 how accommodating of the people at the SFA to keep their offices open until 7.00pm on a Friday night during the close season when zilch is happening. But then as if by magic, some papers appear asking if Sevco can join them. 5PM Grenwich Mean time? No with the Euro's on Ogilvie is working on Ukraine time.... Timalloy {Ed007's Note - I noticed that Tim. The only thing I can think of is they had some problems getting the application ready. It was probably today as a date the deadline was, and with the state of Scottish football I would like to think the authorities are not sticking to office hours trying to sort out the whole mess.}

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Just glad oglivies first name aint john, then i would be worried !!!!!!!!

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29 Jun 2012 18:43:59
SFA confirm that Newco have missed the deadline of today for submitting their application, including business plan, shareholder and director information as well as fit and proper representations from Duff and Phelps

Just copied this from the dark sides page.

Hoopey67

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29 Jun 2012 20:18:48
CELTIC PLC and Alan Thompson are pleased to advise that they have reached an agreement to amicably settle their legal dispute.

Celtic PLC extend their thanks to Alan for his services to the Club as a top-level player and a first-class coach. Alan would like to express his deep gratitude for the overwhelming and heartfelt backing he has received from Celtic fans everywhere, and for the support of his legal team at Bridge Litigation UK Solicitors.

Alan intends to continue his coaching career, building on the invaluable experience gained during his time with Celtic. Alan wishes Celtic Football Club and the fans every success for the future.

Celtic would like to thank Alan for the contribution he has made to the Club over a number of years as both a player and a coach, and we sincerely wish him well for the future.

Jungle Bhoy.

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Saw Thommo today, his missus driving him down the M74 - Wish the man every success, a great servant to the Hoops, Any man who can hammer it over Klos's head in the 90th minute is a hero in my eyes, All the best Thommo.... Brendan

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29 Jun 2012 19:33:42
Evening ed! Was just wondering how many new faces you thought would be coming in this summer?as we are having a good old clear out I'd think we were going to get busy! Or do to think youth will be brought through and just a few quality players to bolster the squad for cl? Brian {Ed007's Note - I think we only need a GK (obviously) and probably another 2/3 new faces, it also depends on who else leaves.}

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29 Jun 2012 18:17:16
Alright tims and timettes?wee cry for help here.son has 2 tickets for t in the park,and he cant go now.any buyers?full weekend camping,thursday to monday.cost £400.any offers.i,ll even throw in a wee celtic gift or two?artybhoy

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350 and I'll collect them

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If you are genuine its a done deal mate.contact details?artybhoy {Ed007's Note - I will pass on details privately no problem.}

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Great ed.thanks very much,artybhoy

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Obviously i made a wee mistake there guys.its thursday to sunday.apologies,artybhoy.who showed an interest ed?wind up? {Ed007's Note - They never got back to me mate.}

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Ed,been a long day,and im off to snoozeland.i,ll check this again first thing in the morning mate.any genuine interest,im sure you,ll help me out.cheers mate.goodnight to you and all the celtic family.artybhoy {Ed007's Note - No probs mate.}

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I work in a bar & night club (sori will try n type everyting correctlly i kno how much it upsets da ed lol ) bt will ask about cn sorta remember someone in wrk asking bout tickets will let u know either way
afgandan

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Artybhoy, be careful of wind up merchants your post over there got 29 unbelievables? what's that all about.
Also I remember a genuine bear (yes there are a couple still around) offered two tickets for a big Rangers game last season (well big in their eyes lol) and guy arranged to meet outside main doors , he waited 2 hours and nobody turned up. Why not put it on Ebay or something? hail hail Timalloy

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Mate you would defo get those tickets sold up there, so if you cannot go up give the tickets to someone you trust who is going up and will sell no problem!!

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He thought he had them sold on ebay for 360,but the buyer didnt put the money into paypal so hes in limbo.need to get rid this weekend as he goes on holiday on monday night.cheers everybody.artybhoy

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Hi ed if artybhoy wants I can advertise them on another Celtic forum I have put my email at the top of the page let me know asap as I am nights .cheers

Hail hail

Marco1888

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GOt them away for 320 guys.cheers.and thanks ed for letting me turn this into ebay.artybhoy {Ed007's Note - Remember and pay the tax ;-) And I'll claim the wee CFC gifts!!}

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29 Jun 2012 17:44:21
Just seen gossip on the reliable chronicle that is my facebook...Rangers should not have been allowed to play last season due to not meeting the financial criteria ! Mrs E

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If true,sfa should be disbanded with immediate effect.artybhoy

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29 Jun 2012 11:45:08
Awright ed, with all the speculation regarding the various football authorities attempts to accommodate that law breaking, non bill paying manky mob, and in doing so breaking their own rules and regulations, do you think it's about time FIFA or UEFA stepped in to sort this mess out. Nobody here seems capable of any sort of strong leadership. Frano 63 {Ed007's Note - UEFA are aware of everything Frano, IMO it is now time for them to get involved. The incompetence of the SFA/SPL/SFL is there for all to see now. The fact that Ogilvie is still in a job has got to be seriously questioned. He has been in this up to his neck for over a year now and is still holding office and making decisions.}

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Hi rangers fan here i for one have just put my vote in for the newco to apply to the 3rd division fans fighting fund holding a vote do i think this vote will make sfa/spl/sfl and charles green stop with there plans no i also emailed rfc and said i would not renew my season ticket unless newco were in third division and i also think that there may be a risk to all scottish clubs that are due to play european football this year if uefa and fifa get involved remember the sion case they were going to kick all swiss clubs and country from competeing in europe so pesonally hope they don't get involved because these other clubs including yours don't deserve to be punished for what my club did and would i swap all the trophies ever won for this to go away yes and would i have still been a season ticket holder if rangers were finishing 2nd 3rd 4th 5th every season yes and am i sorry for the grief my club has caused scottish football yes i am

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I thought that spl/sfa had to acted fast in order to please uefa and fifa, ed do you think that this could harm Celtic as well as every other club for europe? it has been going on took long and the fact they are pulling out all the stops to have them back in has to not sit well with them. maybe they are waiting for them to get organized and then step in in and say no and set it up themselves... and your right i don't know how in the world ogilvie is still in charge and how was regens investigation clear him, things are kept to quite with them because we don't know what investigation took place and what wa found....every fan media source need to get on them to get answers....this is a big change for spl but it needs done the right way and right intentions, no more corruption from spl/sfa/clubs/refs all need to be gone. {Ed007's Note - So far there is nothing that will affect teams in Europe.}

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I don't understand any of this at all ! Are the SFA really this incompetent ? They're kicked out of the SPL so effectively the SFL are beng bullied into taking them...Shocking, disgraceful & a complete mockery of what's left of the Scottish game. Mrs E

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Thanks for the reply ed, and of course, you're correct regarding Ogrevie, any other person with a sense of decency would have stepped down by now. Franco 63

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To quote the fat one "transparency" is required. How can an enquiry find him innocent n yet not disclose the findings in full. Is anyone surprised after the decades of abuse? Ed, I hope ure correct in that UEFA watching what's goin on. To get round the nationality issue, if we lost the independence and became uk in the eyes of FIFA/UEFA cld we then make our way into English leagues? Stevo {Ed007's Note - It would mean having a UK FA and only one national team, that is one of the reasons it will never happen, no country wants to lose their individual identity.}

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Fair play to the bear above, wish more of that clubs support felt the same.

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Hi Ed, going back to my point about losing the national team identity. As a celtic fan who couldnt care less now about Scotland as a national side (note I played at u'16 level) why cant we push that agenda? The bulk of the national sides fan base comes from North scotland anyway. I would watch the scotland games as i do now but dont really care what the result is, if it meant my team could get into england then Id forgo that in a minute. stevo {Ed007's Note - I'm the same Stevo, I have very little interest in international football but do you think England, Wales or the Tartan Army would all feel the same, not to mention the respective FAs.}

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Rangers fan here i also agree we should go into division 3 we are being made to look bad in this after all div 1 clubs have a vote to say no to this time to build bridges and move on im really sorry no one has said sorry yet for this total shambles we are are hurting too great to see another bear posting {Ed007's Note - Sensible 'Bears' are always welcome on here.}

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29 Jun 2012 16:42:43
Seems to be a strong rumour on the Edinburgh side that Spartans are preparing to challenge the legality of this plan to shoehorn newco into a league.As a well run club with years of records and accounts behind them this might get interesting.You cant just change rules and regulations in a few days to suit a totally new club.Sounds feasible to me.........green jhedi

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Totally agree that the Newco should have to apply to join Div3 and the likes of Spartans.Linlithgow Rose etc should also be given the same opportunity to apply for the vacancy in the SFL That is the current rule as I understand it..

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Will this be a repeat of the 300 Spartans against Xerxes at the battle of Thermopalae?, ref 300??, come on SPARTA

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If an organisation deliberately ignore their own rules and articles of assocaition and suborn others to do likewise by means of bribery, coercion or threats, surely Celtic supporters organisations and other fans' organisation should mount a legal challenge, by seeeking a Judicial Review of the actions of the SFA/SPL/SFL?
I am sure fans would contibute funds to finance a legal challenge.

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THIS IS SPARTA ...........ALL YOUR GRANDCHIDREN WILL BE CELTIC FANS !!!!

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29 Jun 2012 15:20:08
With regard to the Sky deal , if they renege ,could Scottish football authorities schedule matches in conflict to the live EPL games to prevent them being shown here as (I think) that is against UEFA rules ?

Paddy Malarkey

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Hi Ed, might have asked you this question, but have Sly not already anounced that no matter what, the deal will stand reguardless of what teams are in SPL. I could be wrong but is this Sly deal just a smoke screen by the MSM to put frightners on affected parties.

TheEssexHoops {Ed007's Note - SLY have said it will have no effect on their coverage of the game.}

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Good idea mate f*** sky and their deal

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Despite our hard working Ed, many sources and Sky themselves fans still believe and worry about the pap put out by the MSM. Sky and ESPN have no intention on reneging or cancelling their deal over the football. We keep saying this, don't believe the tabloids.

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29 Jun 2012 14:22:36
In the document released to SFL clubs regarding the "cheating" tactics to save TRFC from the third division,Doncaster implied the Scottish Government would withdraw support for the SFL community strategy if clubs dont accept the changes.In response to an E mail asking if this was true,Shona Robinson,Minister for sport in Scotland,denied this was the case.She replied"we will respect the decision whatever it is", now i find this a very serious and disturbing revelation.For the SPL chief executive to threaten SFL clubs is bad enough,but to threaten them with lies is outrageous.What on earth is this guy playing at? He must be asked questions about this ridiculous claim.For me his position is rapidly becoming untenable,almost as bad as the Ogilvie situation.This situation is now lurching from one crisis to the next,and what seems to be slipping Doncasters mind is it should be easy enough to fix.The rules are there,liquidated clubs go out the SPL and apply to the SFL for a position.A huge percentage of fans,of every club,agree this is the answer to the problem.Even the sensible rangers fans accept this,and would prefer it seeing it as a chance to wipe the slate clean and build a better more modern club.This is a chance for Scottish football to change the debt culture that has left most clubs hamstrung for years.With rangers out of the SPL for a minimum of three years,clubs could alter their whole financial strategy,Of course they would have to sell players and cut budgets,but is that a bad thing?The other upside is the financial gain to the lower leagues with TRFC in it.Everybody wins in my opinion.TRFC are seen to be treated within the laws of the game,lower tier clubs get a cash boost and SPL clubs learn to live within their means.Young players would prosper by getting their chance,players in the lower tier might get promoted to SPL teams instead of lower grade foreign or English players swamping the leagues.TRFC in the first division would be a farce,if they gained promotion at the first time of asking,they would be back in the SPL debt free and stronger than when they were expelled!If it is all about sly,then let them walk.A TV contract of some kind will be found,even highlights on a saturday night.If Doncaster and Reagan really want restructuring then good,but lets do it properly and for the good of the game,not to make sure their bonus payments remain high............green jhedi

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This whole process has been about saving "Rangers" and not what is best for the reputation of Scottish football. I do not detect any enthusiasm from the lower leagues for the placing of "Rangers" within their ranks. The future of "Rangers" is more uncertain than ever and it is possible they may be cast into the wilderness for the forseeable future.
Liah Smit

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Its an absolute disgrace. That isnt a consultation its a damned ransom note. The sports minister has already said that the threat made in the document that the SFL community strategy's support could be removed has no basis in fact so who knows if any of the other threats have any validity.

Would the last one out please turn the lights off.

Mac

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It's about time Lawwell MADE HIS POSITION CLEAR!

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GJ.
"The rules are there"??
There are no rules mate.
This has never happened before,so there is no precedent.
The SPL is run by a seperate entiity to the SFL.
They are entirely different business models operating within seperate articles of association.
There is no vehicle for demotion as there is no SPL 2.
That's why the appelate committee ruled that "Suspension or expulsion was too harsh" and they went with the transfer embargo.
I also think you are making too much of the E-Mail reply, What is being said is that they are not really going to get involved. This is the right thing to do. Politics and sport should be kept apart.
If you disagree with this then you should try reading the document pertaining to the community strategy.
If the leaked report is genuine,and comes to fruition,i think people should be asking more questions of Rod Petrie(Hibernian chairman) because he was the first to go jumping up and down in public about how his club would be voting no to Rangers remaining in the SPL.
Yet we are hearing now, that he drew up the draft for this report!
I'm sure Hib's fans will be delighted with that!
You go onto suggest that the SFA/SFL are "Threatening" other clubs with the content of this report. I'm sure most club chairmen are fully aware of the financial implications for their clubs,without having to be informed about it by someone else.
Kilmarnock and Motherwell also were quick to jump on the "sporting integrity" nonsense,to appease their fans. However both have come out since and voiced their concerns over the financial black hole that will be left.
It is inevitable i suppose that certain clubs fans will object to this proposal,however if they can't see the logic,and sobriety in it,then i really do fear for our game's future,not just my club's. And i do not accept the argument by some that if Sporting integrity does not exist then Scottish football is finished.It's never been prevalent at any level. Look at FIFA and Sepp Blatter ffs!
What has astounded me is the deafening silence coming from Parkhead in all of this,and Celtic fans like yourself are asking nothing of your club's position.
This has nothing to do with anyone bending over backwards to save Rangers,
It is all about league restructuring,which the SFA have been mooting for years,but the SPL refused to get involved with.
There needs to be more even distribution throughout the Scottish Football League process,and to have three seperate bodies in charge is a complete joke.
Like i've said before sporting integrity is a myth.
It's all about power money and influence.
Take Rangers or Celtic out of the equation and this is was always going to happen.
P.O.B.

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Reading your name backwards makes interesting reading Liah! Lol.
P.O.B.

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I honestly have no doubt that if SLY pull out of the current deal, then ESPN will take over the reins. They already show obscure leagues on their platform, the SPL (all matches) would slot into the channel great.
I would much rather pay one broadcaster than have to subscribe to both for the games I cant attend. Another raw deal for SPL fans.
As for the div 2 set up, it CANNOT be approved surely, does UEFA not have laws about NewCo's and their entry regulations into approved league set up?
A last thought.... not that it matters to most but why would Dundee get promoted? I think that the pars should be given that Club 12 spot as in reality RFC should have bben given a much stiffer penalty when they did go down the sh*tter in Feb!!

Dungannon Celts

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Green Jhedi, as always good points made. have you seen statement from the Celtic Trust? They are seeking a meeting with Mr Lawwell and are also in contact with other supporters groups in Scotland.
I also think it is now time for Celtic to be proactive and even offer an alternative to this rubbish put out by Doncaster.
If we show we are willing to talk and offer good and fair to all alternatives we will get more clubs on our side.
As we all know Celtic FC is now the strongest team in Scotland, money and fan base wise. It is time Celtic took the lead in these negotiations. Let's have all your thoughts bhoys? Timalloy {Ed007's Note - Here is the link:

www.celtictrust.net/index.php?func=d_home_article&id=378

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He will, and soon enough. Take my word for it.

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Im a realistic rangers fan and feel that the 3rd division is the only place to start ! Saying that if we do start in the 3rd it is likely that a few clubs will go bust through no fault of their own !! So what do the Celtic fans think should happen then ? We deserve to be punished but other clubs shouldnt suffer , what should happen then ? Looking forward to your comments.

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How about Celtic make a magnanimous gesture to the other clubs,that they will pick up the slack created by Rangers?
Given that the old firm equated out to 32% of revenue between them,Celtic could donate their 16% to the leeches.
This would plug the financial hole,and help keep the others on a firm footing.
Given the alleged upturn in ST sales as a result of the "sporting integrity" vote the other clubs would be better placed to offer a challenge to Celtic,and preserve the SPL as a competitive force until TRFC make their way back!
Now there's a simple plan. Why didn't anyone think of this before?
P.O.B.

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@POB; The rules are there.Rangers are in the process of being liquidated.That club is over,and their share in the SPL should not be transferable.As such they should then apply for a position in the SFL,after of course,attaining a licence from the SFA.I can understand your point regarding the two different governing bodies but surely the SFA would have the most clout in a face off? For me this is where all the trouble began,with a spineless SFA.I also think all chairmen should have kept their thoughts in house through this.The financial implications should not enter this problem at all.If clubs have to go part time then so be it,bad leadership from chairmen can lead to fiscal problems,as im sure you are aware. If Kilmarnock and Motherwell have black holes to fill,sell some players,it is that simple.As i said in my OP,it is long overdue that the stupid waste of money in the game up here was arrested.How much do clubs spend on hotel bills for pre match stays? I would think the amount might surprise you.As for the restructuring of the league,if this had not happened,do you really think this would be getting raised now? As for Celtics silence on the matter,why not? Nothing has been decided as yet,so i would assume we are playing our cards close,sounds sensible to me. Bottom line: This is a new club,with no accounts,few players and a threat of imploding before it actually plays a game,seeking admission to the pro Scottish leagues.Thats where the sporting integrity comes in,i agree it is not very evident,but could this not be the moment we restored it?............green jhedi

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@POB: So,rangers get liquidated,cause financial hardship to other SPL teams and Celtic should lose money to see justice done? I will assume you might have had a Friday drink as that post is quite ridiculous.You also seem to have missed the fact that most clubs season book figures are up this year............green jhedi

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Honestly, rewriting the rule book and restructuring the whole of Scottish Football for the benefit of one discredited club. Doncaster who I presume is behind this to save his precious SLY Tv deal should just resign, closely followed by the SFA for their lack of leadership..

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Calm down GJ.
My last post was in response to the one above it,and was done with tongue firmly in cheek.
However your point about financial hardship is contrary to the rhetoric of your earlier post,when you advocate TRFC going to third division.
I'm tee total by the way.lol.
P.O.B.

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The point being that the"Rule book" needs rewritten mate.
There seems to be a lack of acceptance that the "Old firm" ruled the roost in any decision making process under the old 11-1 system.
The other clubs,the "group of ten" sense blood now that "partnerhip" has been dissolved.
Celtic will be the first to to feel the pinch of the money belt tightening in the SPL.
The others can only benefit.
Interesting interview with Stewart Gilmour today,where he reaffirms St Mirren's resolve to veto RFC's place in the SPL.However,after quoting "sporting integrity" as the reason, he then informs his own fans that job losses will be imminent,and there will be no new signings!
P.O.B. {Ed007's Note - Did he say that was because of Rangers though?}

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Ed. I posted the link earlier.
It is linked to RFC dropping out of the SPL,and the possible loss of commercial and Television partners.
Gilmour states that the club will maintain its principle of sporting integrity, but that the financial reality of that may mean cuts at the club.
Regrettably, the commercial and hence financial impact is still not clear to the club, we are very hopeful that this aspect will become clearer in the next few days. This will play a major part in the decision making for the Board of Directors as to the way forward for the club in the short term.
P.O.B. {Ed007's Note - The words 'possible', 'may mean', 'still not clear' and 'hopefully' shows that it is just speculation. St Mirren had their own problems financially, Rangers ' demise is obviously going to have an initial impact, then the impact will pass.}

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GJ.
" You also seem to have missed the fact that most clubs season book figures are up this year" ??
I think it is you who has had a drink mate.
If you read my post properly instead of just going off on one, you will see that i have specifically made that very point in my post.
Sorry to read you're retiring, i enjoyed our wee jousts.
P.O.B.

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Okay fair point Ed.
The initial impact will pass in time.
However SG is hopeful that this will become clearer in the next few days.
He is looking for guarantees of continued support from TV and Sponsorship.
Who is going to fill that void? Dundee,Partick,Raith Rovers,Dunfermline?
There is obviously a shared concern among the football authorities that there will be a significant impact.
You can't deny that the loss to the game of 52,000 home supporters,and tens of thousands more throughout the world will be anything other than detrimental to sponsors and TV input.
If this was not the case RFC would have been expelled. End of.
Nothing has changed Ed as far as the old firm being a cash cow is concerned.
Even a Rangers on their knees are a crucial component in the future of our game. It would be the exact same if either of the big two dissapeared.
P.O.B. {Ed007's Note - What happens now will either make or break our league for years to come. Corners shouldn't be cut just to keep the present financially viable, in the long run it will have a detrimental effect on the game. No other league in the world would be governed by people coming out with all this nonsense. If rules are broken to fast-track a brand new team into anything but the SFL3 then the game as a whole in Scotland will be dead. It could take generations to recover from it where as Zombie Rangers could be back as a force in 5(??) years, if their fans keep the promise to back them in the lower leagues, 86% have supposedly said so.}

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That's the second time this 86% has turned up Ed.
I asked the Ed's last week about some troll/Gilfnard or whatever you call them posting this in my name. I've been through every search item and the only reference that appears is the one put up by the imposter.
P.O.B. {Ed007's Note - {Ed007's Note - It wasn't an impostor... a Rangers fan said about it the other night on here. Search this time stamp using the search function:

22 Jun 2012 22:13:39

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Thanks Ed. That puts this debate to bed then.
This is the post i was referring to.

24 Jun 2012 20:40:14
On the Champions page P.O.B. ha said that 86% of Rangers fans want to go to the third division. Why are you not all letting Green know this or is P.O.B. just talking his usual sh!te.More faces than the toon hall clock. If you care about sporting integrity then let the owner know.... bet not one Rangers fan would agree to this lmao

Below is the post wrongly associated with me.
To set you straight Mrs E a number of letters from supporter clubs have been sent to Charles Green saying that the fans want him to withdraw the request to join the SPL and go to the SFL. And on a rangers fans forum 86% of fans voted to goto div3 and take the punishment and start again.
BNB

May well be that it was a simple case of mistaken identity -(BNB - POB) however it is not the first time it has happened.
I post regularly and offer my opinion as a vehicle for discussion. What annoyed me on this occasion was that i was quoted specifically by a nameless neanderthal
attributing a post to me,which i clearly had nothing to do with.
P.O.B.

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SPL looking at the possibility of relegating Rangers into Division 1 but, as Ed points out the 'no other league in the world would break the rules and fast track anew team'. How ironic that must be to all the posters who insist that Celtic should seek to move to a different country's league, such as England!! Also interested in previous comment Ed regarding Stewart Gilmour's coments about 'possible' financial implications. Are we to assume that SG knows less about St. Mirren's financies than Ed? {Ed007's Note - What?}

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29 Jun 2012 08:56:07
Andreas Isaksson.....Yes please, great value on a free transfer!

Also Ciani for 1 - 2 Million, yes please again!

From the rumours no flying about Celtic could end up a real good side next year!

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