Celtic Rumours Archive December 28 2012

 

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28 Dec 2012 23:40:38
Hi toffee bhoy here, the rumour down here on merseyside is hooper to sign for everton, agent has said talks at early stage
...gujo

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Moyes is only looking for loans or bosmans as moneys very tight and hes not for selling anyone

Mikey Bhoy

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Everton can't afford 10m for hoops n thats even considering that amount.
He, s far too good for them anyway

Markmck

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Since when could everton afford 10m+ on a player. I think he will move to sunderland or lpool in the summer

Celticthomas

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As said talks at early stage....everton don't want to sell any of their star players either like Baines 18m..fellaini..upto 30m...but the one player that will go down here and release founds is johnny heitenga to Ajax the money from that will cover payment on hooper...everton will get lescott in on loan for cover, if I could see any benefit for the bhoys they should ask for victor anichebe to be part of package

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You're having a laugh if you think the fee for Heitinga will pay the transfer fee for Hooper.....you'll be lucky to get 5m+ for Heitinga off of Ajax.You will have to pay 10m+ to get Hooper (i can see him going to Everton by the way, top six club, european football, good manager) but you will have to sell more players aswell as Heitinga to afford Hooper.

Hail Hail Toffee Bhoy

Joe Mckenna

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Anichebe ? This guy spends more time on the recovery table then anywhere else. He is also not good enough , even for the SPL.

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Victor anichebe is an awful footballer and not fit to wear the Celtic shirt. This will not happen while Celtic are in the CL. There is no guarantee he will start due to the shape Everton play!

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Word up here liverpool

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Disagree entirely with the guy slagging anichebe, the guy is a good player and has had his injuries since a cowardly horror tackle by Kevin Nolan. He's been a big player for Everton this season, maybe confusing his injuries with vaughans when he was there?

Jamie mac

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I'm not gonna disagree with anything he's said (would love Hopper to stay but if to go anywhere i'd be happy with Goodison) other than I thought I was the only Toffeebhoy lol. Will let you off as your based in Liverpool and I'm the Glasgow version lol.

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Yeh I'm ...Gujo...I'm originally from elderslie near Johnstone but now live in Kirkby liverpool and support both the bhoys and the toffees...so it's a bitter sweet pill to hear what I've heard because I don't want hooper to leave celtic...even though I get all sorts of rubbish sticking up for scottish game I don't think hooper is good enough

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Victor anichebe has scored 15 goals in his career for Everton and has only managed 4 this season. The last thing we need is another striker who can't find the net! Hooper will leave eventually; however, Anichebe is not good enough for Celtic.

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28 Dec 2012 22:39:30
looking for a tix for tomoro. can pass on email adress to Ed. Stevo Dundee

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28 Dec 2012 22:30:42
Maybe a long shot, but anyone have a spare ticket for tomorrows game. Ed can you pass on my details please. Thanks very much. Paul

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28 Dec 2012 22:05:42
Tomorrow marks the 5th anniversary of a great loss to football, phil odonnell passing away.

Gentlemen on and off the park and will never be forgotten

God bless phil odonnell GBNF

Hail hail

Cumby Bhoy

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Seconded mate.A real loss..........green jhedi

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28 Dec 2012 18:52:06
Sorry folks not a rumour, were in costa teguise n tryin to get a pub for game tomiro, Any ideas? Hail hail finbar

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Aye the wee celtic/irish pub on the corner!, , , , you must be really addicted to this page bhoy if your on it on your hols?

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It was called popeyes i think last time we were there.......in the centre opposite los zocos....

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Try the shamrock bar or the Irish bailey

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Cheers for that fellow tims am on the case hail hail!

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28 Dec 2012 18:48:26
whats this that man utd are wonting fraser forster does every 1 wont our players lol the english always slate our game but yet they wont our players

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Fraser will go on to be the best 'keeper Celtic have signed for decades should he stay. The only reason he was allowed to agree a long-term deal with Celtic is because Newcastle hold him in such kind regards. Its difficult to put a figure on Goalkeepers but if Man Utd did want him to replace DeGea then they can pay more than they paid for DeGea - a record fee at the time i believe. The past season though Forster really has kicked on and Celtic, as with a few other players, NEED to demand a fee that would buy a player of a similar calibre plus a healthy profit. Either that or he stays, and you still have the top class player clubs like Man Utd covet. That said i don't think they're interested at all!

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28 Dec 2012 17:54:47
does anybody else think we never gave niall mcginn enough of a chance . the wee man is doing really well for the dons.. shammy

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He is playing out of his skin for the Dons - but honestly don't think he is good enough for Celtic. Steveomac

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28 Dec 2012 17:37:45
Is it true McCourt is going to C/Palace? {Ed007's Note - Holloway tried to sign McCourt in every window while he was Blackpool manager. As soon as he became manager at CP I said to Ed003 (a Blackpool fan) that he would probably follow him down there, again either in January or in the summer. I think it was Blackpool's shirt colour that was putting him off ;-) Ed003 has asked me to point out that it's tangerine you know, not orange!!!}

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28 Dec 2012 16:26:08
I'm hearing celtic have had a 1.75 million bid for universidad catolicas nineteen year old striker Nicholas Castillo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAQ8ICUCGCs

Jamie mac(if true tata Gary) {Ed007's Note - Jamie, the last I heard about him his club had put a 10 million Euros price on him and there was strong interest from Italy.}

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Big sell on fee? Champs league etc may generate a higher fee. I trust there's substance to this ed

Jamie mac {Ed007's Note - I have contacted someone who should be able to clarify it Jamie, I will get back to you as soon as I hear anything from her.}

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Ed there are now reports of this all over the Internet, surely can't be made up

Jamie mac {Ed007's Note - We'll see mate.}

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Cheers ed

Jamie mac

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Could be the guy to help get to last eight.
Miku isn't.

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28 Dec 2012 17:01:17
Eventually found the name of the song i was looking for, its Fiesta whcih thanks to folk on this i now know. The version played at Parkhead is by the K9's- any download or youtube links would be brilliant but only for the K9's version- i think its on the officla celtic album...

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Cheers mate :-) the pouges are class you should look at some more of there stuff a new it was fiesta just with your description hope u enjoy some more of there tunes.
.............. cally bhoy ..............

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A pair of brown eyes.

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28 Dec 2012 15:02:06
in line with our recent recruitment policy i hope our scouts are looking at the boy andreas cornelius of fc copenhagen 6ft4 a big lump of a boy looks quick and looks really good in the air a type of player we dont seem to be able to produce in scotland, , , deep river bhoy

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28 Dec 2012 14:53:14
Just heard from a mates mate that the trouble in Dundee was not as bad as the Dundee spokesman is making out. He claims that it started because of coins being thrown and too many drunk fans being admitted. Now i refuse to accept booze as a legitimate reason for such behaviour, but sadly, as you can see every weekend in town, this is where we are at at this time in Scotland.As for the coin throwing allegations, if true, you can understand why people might fly off the handle at this.Sadly it did not end there.It seems that a lot of Celtic fans were incensed when the pro IRA chants started.When they objected some of our own "fans" decided that was enough to cause trouble among ourselves.When will these people realise that Celtic Football Club, at home or away, do not condone, want or need these songs being sung? I speak as a staunch Republican who finds this sort of behaviour appalling.Times have moved on, look at the cases of collusion being exposed through the Peace Process.Every time i hear of fans singing anti forces songs i wonder if these people realise how many Celtic fans are in the Army? Are you sitting feet away from a lifelong Celtic fan who's son or daughter is in Iraq while they are sick with worry all day every day? Celtic Park has earned a unique place in CL football, Visiting fans, press and players love it, The show before the Barca game was one of the greatest things i have seen in over 40 years following Celtic at home and abroad.I would urge these "fans" who want to indulge themselves in the singing of pro IRA songs to think before they open their mouths.Lets be noisy and passionate, but keep the passion for the Club thats who we are there to support, not the IRA. We all know the Media in this country are still very pro The rangers, do you really want to give them a stick to beat us with?.........green jhedi

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Good post , let's rid our club and football of this disgraceful behaviour
Rob

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Well said GJ, even Lenny has came out and told the fans "If they want to behave like that then do it somewhere else".It has been great to read about all the praise our fans and atmosphere gets from foreigners but the few who do spoil it should be dealt with by our other fans.Let's police ourselves and keep our good name intact.Doesn't have to be violent, just shout them down.

Jungle Bhoy.

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Green Jhedi..I could not agree more. keep this out of football. A s a club we have more than enough songs we can sing without bringin politics into it. Lets not be dragged down to the level of that lot across the city.All u ever here there is derry's walls, rule britt..., and the sash, now I am no expert but I struggle to hear the name of their team anywhere in there. We sing great songs about our club and they only support our players, management and club, lets not give anybody any chance to pour scorn on us. We are the shining light in Scotland at the moment and the whole of Europe is watching us, lets show them how good we are and if you want to sing these songs in public, then stay away from teh bhoys in green.....Allymac

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For all this outrageous singing only one arrest was made and even that's not a cast in stone offence.

Hmmmm

Makes you wonder, eh?

Jamie mac

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Self policing is a dangerous game, some people are thicker skinned than others and may genuinely feel they have done nothing wrong to be challenged about, one mans offence is not another mans in some cases.

I am not saying songs like the Black and Tans etc wouldn't offend because clearly they do - that's obvious. There are some crazy do gooders out there at the other end of the spectrum capable of causing offence too.

Maybe the answer is for celtic to step up their stewarding even if it means riding costs as then they are following exact club guidelines and they can mete out the proper punishment advised by the club.

I would not be happy to see one fan chastise another in the same way I would if it were a non footballing issue on the high street. Who amongst any of us is riteous enough to tell anyone what to or not to do.

You'd have a rather big ego if you think you can(not aimed at green jhedi you- the general you)

Let the authorities decide before we substitute poor song choices for arguing in house. The poorer songs should stop, sorry should have already stopped.

Again, let the club deal with it because at celtic park one fan does not put themselves above the other.

Jamie mac(no to divide and conquer)

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Well put GJ couldn't agree more

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@ Jamie mac; While i agree with your thick skinned argument, you kind of negate it in the next paragraph.By pointing out that the Black and tans is offensive you must see my point.The people who sing these songs must realise any song in praise of the IRA will offend most people.As someone who's forefathers fought for the republicans i do not.I also do not find any of the bile spewed at us in rangers games offensive either, in fact i find it amusing that some people are so pig ignorant, so i would not class myself as a do gooder. As for chastising other fans, would you chastise a racist? Remember for evil to flourish it takes only one good man to look away, in our case all the sterling work done by Lenny and the players and fans will be tainted if we give the press one column inch to slate us. Your other point about one fan above the other, totally agree, so when one fan complains, should the singer not realise this as well? We are all brothers in following Celtic, inclusive of all, we are a cause and we need to be united as we have enough enemies. Thanks for the reply mate...........green jhedi

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Well lads ive been going to paradise for 31 years and i have always heard these songs being sung(it has never bothered me the way its bothering some of you) ive got to say its part and parcel now. I also love lenny but id have to tell him these songs have been sung well bfore he was even born. Freedom of speech/freedom of song, the people that sing these songs pay the same money as the people who dont sing the songs. So its not up to 1 man ie lawwell cheif of police or whoever else to pick and choose what people can and cant sing, ., .kbarry

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My point is that the Black and Tans etc are written to provoke a reaction and can NOT be deemed inoffensive by anyone, it's the songs in the "grey area" if you will that are causing the confusion. I'm not totally sure how that negates each other or if I'm picking you up wrongly jhedi?

For example, we don't care what the animals say can be viewed as innocent enough or depending on who's ears are listening it could be the biggest outrage. The major problem with this is that as soon as someone says they're upset or offended then they are; regardless of whether you may suspect they are lying. No one can tell what anothers emotions, thoughts and feelings truly are.

I think that there needs to be nailed on definitions enforced by the security team to the same level at home and away.

I tend not to be offended by the hatred I encounter, it too makes me smile. It's certainly not going to make me cry. I do not engage in these exchanges as that appears to rile them more.

I feel there is far too much scope for personal agenda and interpretation regarding what's offensive and what is not.

On your point about one fan not putting themselves above the other- I have to say I feel that both of our viewpoints negate each other at this point which is another reason why I believe the "policing" must be done at club level, after all they are the authority figure. I feel freedom to express yourself within reason should be allowed, be that through song, dance, whatever.

I'm all about people's liberties, it's all I'm about and I feel if we allow this near non issue then, in my opinion, I feel we risk losing part of the identity and ancestry of our club before too long if we all go too deep into political correctness. I also feel that there is a high chance that the game could be sanitised beyond recognition at the very same time.

Please bare in mend fellow tims I am not arguing the case for sectarianism or bigotry, just an even handed approach to what is ok. The fields of athenrye, for example, has been on the next to never play list at celtic park for years, and I feel this is sad in the truest sense of the word. We cannot allow anyone to image alter our future or past entirely as we will then no longer be the unique and wonderful club we are known to be.

To me it's about where they go after they take the singing away, when they probably shouldn't be, the sanitation of our club cannot continue until there are no ties to the past. They will not make me feel guilty or embarrassed about coming from a family of Irish republicans nor should they be able to.

Jamie mac

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All this political nonsense should be kept outside of football. Move on, support your team not the past! Bizzarley whilst in Barcelona watching the game many spaniards were asking the question why we were wearing kilts (I counted 4 fans including us) and most others flying the tricolour. Try explaining that in English never mind Spanish!

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@ kbarry; Saying the songs have been sung for years is hardly the point mate. For years it was the norm to use disgusting names to describe Black People, for years it was okay to use the most vile names to describe gay people. The crux of my argument is, as a club, we have enough emotive songs about great players and past glories. The freedom of choice argument is a good one, but i just feel that when you are harming the image of the club second thoughts are needed.
@Jamie mac; What i agree with is the "grey area". The only counter argument to that would be to use your own common sense, if the IRA are mentioned then you can bet it will offend someone. You do cite a great example in the line "what the animals say" My mate, a big bluenose, told me that this was all started on rangers message boards to give Celtic stick years ago, similar to the word "huns"And thats my point, why give them ammo? I would also agree we should NEVER airbrush the wonderful history of our club, totally unique in the world of football. Your citing of the Fields is a great example, how that could offend anyone is beyond me, i still think it one of the most evocative songs i have ever heard. I would also never feel guilty of the fact i come from a Republican family, indeed i am proud of the stand my ancestors took against attempted colonisation, all i ask is lets be a bit cleverer than our enemies.Lets not give them the chance to feed the frenzy we have witnessed these past few days.Wait till the Hibs game, they will be watching and waiting to jump all over us...............green jhedi

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Great post GJ, agree particularly about not giving the opportunity to beat us with that stick & as we can see nobody in the msm needs encouraging. As for self policing anyone who underestimates the Celtic faithful & our ability to to do this i point you to the casual era, our club was largely unaffected by this & those who thought they were never shouted about it. I witnessed in a testimonial against man utd at parkhead how Celtic fans dealt with those who tried to tarnish our clubs good name, the police could do nothing as the jungle roared in great delight as the police hat's were flying up in the air. send your casuals over here ! A few sore faces later the casual element & a few of Strathclydes finest were left in no doubt our supporters faithful thru & thru wouldn't tolerate this
Casuals bulls*it ! It's changed days & times I'm not saying we have to get physical or is there the need to we know the songs which have no place in paradise anymore, sung my heart out swayed bounced roared & shed tears & laughed with my fellow bhoys & ghirls in the jungle threw childhood & manhood. Started more chants than most i would bet & even these days sing my heart out backing the bhoys, for the love of Glasgow Celtic the finest club & supporters on gods green earth leave politics out of it. The spotlight will be on us GUARANTEED ! AbS

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Super post echoes thoughts majority of us!! cmon bhoys stick to supporting glasgow celtic, if u want be religious go to church/chapel do not follow our football club. danny.

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Leave religion at the church door its not healthy in football

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28 Dec 2012 12:52:11
Nice to see the s*n still putting a positive spin on any story concerning The rangers. Under the headline" Fran loves ibrox life" the fact that he was told not to bless himself before games merits a tiny mention.Sandaza himself says it "helps avoid misunderstandings" What a disgrace.The fact that this was "people at the club" would suggest more than one bigot still thrives at this festering sore of a club.But lets not kid ourselves here,the sun are the most guilty party in this disgrace.For a national newspaper to cloud the facts is outrageous in the extreme.Fran loving life is NOT the story here.The story is WHO told him not to express his faith? Here we have a club,who green and mccoist told us,were going to enjoy the journey through the leagues while making friends in the process.Just not Catholic friends though? Will The rangers make a statement? Will the person/people responsible be disciplined? We are constantly told about the small minority in the rangers support who cannot move on from the 1690 years,so can we expect the decent majority to ask questions? This should not be swept under the carpet.My god,we are in the 21st century............green jhedi

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Well said. can't believe this is still an issue in the 21st century. only in scotland (literally).....

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Yesterday you said he was advised not to do it now you are saying he has been told not to! Which is it? And yes there is a difference. If a player signed for Celtic and insisted on kissing a poppy before he took to the field I'm sure he would be advised not to as it would offend a small minority of eejits, just the same as the Sandazza story!
Gavla {Ed007's Note - What has a poppy got to do with ANY religion? That is a completely stupid and ignorant thing to think let alone say. To foreigners the poppy symbol means absolutely nothing. Maybe a wee lie down would help you, it might help with your strawclutchitis..}

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Aye very good Glava ya diddy lol away and sober up son.

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And where did I mention religion in my post?
Gavla {Ed007's Note - Well blessing himself is part of the Sand-Dancer's religion... D'UH!!!!! So exactly what was the point you failed to make? I won't hold my breath for an intelligent answer......}

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Gavla, put your brain in gear then speak

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@ Gavla; Really? I think advised was in quotations, for a reason. Poppys? Good god, this forces sweethearts nonsense is so ironic from a club who held money back from taxes.How many land Rovers would that have bought? Still to hear you condemn it...interesting.............green jhedi

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A wee read for you Gavla written by none other than your new head of communications...

www.heraldscotland.com/sport/spl/aberdeen/thistle-leap-to-player-s-defence-1.468087

Mrs E

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There shouldn't be any religious acts or politically related things on a football field, period. Save it for elsewhere or in private. End of the day, its a job, do any of you go to work and bless yourself before you clock in? Why is football so different?

God doesn't make messi score the goals he does, just like he doesn't make me good at my job. Lets get some perspective here {Ed007's Note - Blessing yourself only seems to be a problem in Scotland. So, as you say, let's get some perspective, why should UEFA or FIFA stop players all over the world, at every level, blessing themselves because The Rangers fans don't like it?
Are players still allowed to point skywards after scoring, then we have sportsmen and women that thank God in acceptance speeches, do we tell them to stop that too? The human rights people might have something to say on that.
It's like something Enoch Powell would come out with and people need to realise that times have moved on, if you find someone blessing themselves offensive then tough, it is time you took a long hard look at yourself.}

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God Save The Queen ?? What does that have to do with football and oh the irony of being the only Sottish Club to have so widely used a tax avoidance scheme pfftt.

Mrs E

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28 Dec 2012 12:33:18
Anyone any idea how long samaras has on his current deal? I think its roughly in the region of 2 to 1 and a half to 2 years.
Would love to see the big man get another few years on that and a higher wage just for his sheer excellence this season.
Although there are definetely a few others, samaras situation is a little more easier as the guy loves the club, loves the city and wants to stay.
He's been absolutely pivotal for us thisis season, especially in Europe and he,s playing really really well at the minute.
I think if we can tie down Sammy Hooper and big Vic on new deals then we only really need a new left back for competition for izzy as this might push him a little more and raise his game more consistently. Maybe let a few go out on loan or sell if the deal is right and bring in a new playmaker for the last 16 who is not registered.
I also think lassad is our man for up top,
Albeit not prolific as hoops, 6ft 2 good in the air and a good foil makes him the target man we miss.
We,ve done really really well so farthis season so do we really need to splash out on another striker?
What's you're thoughts guys,Thanks ,,,

Markmck1888

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We definitely don't need another striker, we've one too many as it is. Thought at the time it was daft signing Lassad AND Miku, what's the latest on Miku going back to Spain? Prob best for all concerned, , , dopeydavey

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Was delighted when we signed miku, thought he would score for fun but sadly it hasn't worked out for him

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Samaras is contracted until Summer 2014 i'm sure (ED007?) so this time next year would be interesting for him.

He might want the chance to play elsewhere, who knows. He does seem to love the European competitions.

I would like for nothing better than to see Hooper and Wanyama stay beyond next Summer but I have my doubts. I honestly see no benefit to either of them leaving this January.

I think i'll have to give Lassad more time before I make up my mind about him, the jury's still out.

A creative midfielder would be top of my wish list at the moment. If Wanyama left, we still have Brown and Kayal...who seems to be getting better every week and finding the form from his first season here. ~ Mrs E {Ed007's Note - Yep, it's 2014.}

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