Celtic Rumours Archive August 26 2011

 

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26 Aug 2011 23:45:37
3 players signed new contracts i wonder who they are.. brown , mulgrew , kayal/izzy??

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26 Aug 2011 23:24:54
Is this correct ?
FIFA and UEFA are based in Switzerland therefore got to obey to the Swiss law.
MG69 {Ed007's Note - No.}

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No that's wrong , each member has to obay they swiss law in gerneral living there but sports law is totaly different . there is a seperate law and court for sporting related cases.

Fifa have already said it does not matter what the swiss court has said in relation to player being registered for the swiss league it will not make any different to there decision . if found guilty both fc sion and the swiss fa will be hit hard by fifa.

but mind you, that could be fifa just passing the buck.

but if not found guilty that leaves a president to every other club with a transfer embargo on them.

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So why did they go against the SWISS supreme court and challenging it in a civil court?

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26 Aug 2011 22:55:03
looks like another target is off adam le fondre going for medical at reading.....nice one celtic are we ever gonna get our targets instead of dilly dallying its becoming a joke...if they get him then we should have a wee crack at jordan rhodes and jimmy kebe from reading to very decent players

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26 Aug 2011 22:33:53
Commons twitter account tonight
Why ?
kcommons15 Gutted about thurs night but fingers crossed UEFA do the right thing tues and chuck sion out Were certainly due a bit of luck.

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Was this not in response to him not being in Scotland squad ??

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Is commons having a laugh, these players dont deserve to be in europe, its a bad day when our players are talking this much crap on twitter, he should concentrate on trying to play football

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I'll tell him why, he's done nothing since the start of the season apart from miss a penalty and nobody will tell me he's not overweight. The guy who sits next to me at CP said Commons is quoted as saying he's been "bulking up" in the gym, sorry but the last thing he needs to do is bulk up FFS

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One of my favourite players last year but has'nt done it so far this season.

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26 Aug 2011 22:12:16
We have to sign a centre half and a striker of good quality with top league experience ie. premiership, la liga quality surely we can at least get a couple of players in on loan.
we also have to get rid of samaras, loovens, hooiveld would also take a chance on ALF considering the price.
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Give me Loovens ahead of big dan any day
Kevbhoy

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I agree we need a quality striker and centre half but I dont think top league experience is a must, as long as they are good enough. Remember we brought in Big Dan because of his 'experience' and look where that got us.

I used to stick up for Samaras all the time but he is seriously wearing down any patience i had for him.

If he was just s**t like the other two you mentioned we could forgive him. The fact he has all the attributes to play for one of the top teams in the world but just doesnt produce the goods makes him the most infuriating player I've ever seen in the hoops.

Before Cha arrived Samaras was the fastest player at the club.
He is 6'4" and good in the air (usually).
He shields the ball brilliantly and when he stays up front instead of drifting out wide he holds the ball up excellently.
He has the best close control of any player at the club.
He takes good penalties (even against them across the road).

He is unplayable on his day but unfortunately his day is rarely match day
Celtic's system doesnt really suit him either which doesnt help but I am convinced if we sell him to an Italian or Spanish club he will be worth a fortune within a season or two because those leagues would suit him.

I dont know how to solve the problem of Samaras but if we sell him we should definately try for a sell on clause

Island Bhoy {Ed007's Note - I have said for a while that Samaras drifts out too much and is crossing balls he should be in the middle waiting for himself!}

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26 Aug 2011 21:50:15
hate putting my team down but same again as last year we get linked to every god dam player who is unsettled in the English Premiership but end up with nothing, I love this club but dont know what direction we are going its scary to see what level of player we have now attract very worried celtic fan

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26 Aug 2011 21:47:52
is there any news on celtic signing people we need to sign and fast

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26 Aug 2011 21:31:49
hi ED im watchin the barca n porto game and wonderin why why NL doesnt scoure south america to find players cause porto seem to find the rite strikers mids def ect the people celtic should sign (PORTO SCOUTS LOL), the scouts we have couldnt pick a pin out of a hay stack or should I say sack the scouts?OR the( lawellnd £nd the desmond crew)or cant they AFFORD it {Ed007's Note - There are problems with work permits for young players from South America. Man Utd can argue that a youngster has great potential plus they have the option to use Royal Antwerp to 'loan' players to which allows them to gain a European work permit or even dual nationality. If CFC tried to bring a young player over the authorities would ask 'If he is that good why are the bigger teams in EPL not looking at him?'. CFC have had to plead cases for a lot of players, most recently Wanyama.}

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Hi Ed, good point.

In your opinion any idea why we don't try a partnership with one of the smaller European clubs which would enable us to do the same. This would be wise investment as then African and South American players could be identified and filtered through as Man Utd do.

Surely this wouldn't cost that much as deal could be done to loan players etc which would benefit all parties.

(did we not have some agreement with a Hungarian team ? Could be used to facilitate this as they are in the EU or failing that our strong contacts with Sweden ((Henrik)) or other countries could be used)

Just a thought :-)

Johnboymcs {Ed007's Note - CFC had ties with Ujpest while Willie McStay was manager, I am not sure how close the relationship was/is. Tie ups with smaller teams abroad could be a benefit, even to loan players to etc, the youngsters that Man Utd have sent to Antwerp over the years is quite impressive including John O'Shea, Darron Gibson and Jonny Evans, just to give them experience of playing first team football in a competitive league. I am not sure of any financial costs that would be an issue, it is just basically to benefit both clubs.}

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OP we kind of have.

We've looked at lesser leagues and teams in South America and I think this is definitely the way to go as far as scouting South America is concerned.

The problem with Brazil, for example, is that some clubs in their leagues are capable of bidding comparable amounts to those in the EPL so there's no reason they can't rip sides off. For example, Corinthians recently bid around 30M for Tevez. That's aside from work permit issues and rules around players leaving Brazil (I think it's 17 or 18 before they can go abroad and we're not powerful enough to get authorities to bend the rules). They also get involved in 3rd party ownership etc. which complicates deals.

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In an ideal world quality south american players signing 4 the Tic would b awesome but with our history of signing 'SAMBA SUPERSTARS' I think thats a wee bit ambitious haha.

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I,m a rangers fan and cannot agree with your comment about your scouts,they got you ki,kayal,izzy,commons,rogne and a few others,not too bad a find

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26 Aug 2011 21:08:51
Well ed. What's the craic? Another poor show last nite. Sammy, big dan should never be let near a Celtic jersey again. Where was Stokes and Paddy lastnite? We need 2 big signing before the window closes. Everybody talking about le fondre from league2 but were only kidding ourselfs if that's the type of players we are going to sign we need people with experience a top goal scorer. We have darren o dea on loan to Leeds who has been playing for the republic and in big international matchs don't know why the fellow is not given a chance. I hope we don't go for Bellamy. We need to stop the rot NOW... Any transfer rumours at all?Bigirishmac {Ed007's Note - It has been very quiet today regarding transfers/rumours BIM, everyone seems to be dissecting last nights collapse. I said I would have rather went with O'Dea than Majstorovic all along, I still wasn't expecting that from him last night, even if they had scored we would have had a better chance at 1-0 down with 11 men than 10.}

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26 Aug 2011 20:22:39
Not a transfer rumour but I just wanted to ask my fellow Celtic fans if you agree with me that, with him being fit again, Thomas Rogne MUST start on sunday against St Mirren and then every other week after that (aslong as he doesn't get injured again)

If you agree = believable

If you disagree = unbelievable

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For those who clicked on 'unbelievable', could you tell us why?

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Getting back into Europe would be payback in some way for the Rapid Vienna fiasco in 84. Uefa owe us one.

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Wanyama looked good i would have him with kelvin wilson both good in air and have pace rogne a bit ring rusty wouldnt risk him in a must win game

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26 Aug 2011 19:59:41
Adam le fondre at Reading having a medical.

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26 Aug 2011 19:55:21
i think the board have got alot to anwser for to be honest they havnt supported neil lennon this season at all havnt given him any money and i think if we get into the europa league we should be thankful and this should be a great chance for the board to show there trust in neil lennon by giving him money to spend on players

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Absloute rubbish, sorry but how can you say that? The board are 100% behind NL, where have you been for the last year?.......Miko

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Shamrock Rovers need i say more
Stevie

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Lol they have been behind neil lennon were do you come to that how much money have they given him to spend other than the money from the mcgeady sale em only 900.000 for wanyama and your saying there behind him i think not if they were they would have given him money to spend

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The board have not backed him at all this summer, £900,000...not good enough. Some of you are fools

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Shut up miko the celtic board r just a bunch of tight w@nkers they have not backed him what so ever.

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Get real lads stop making excuses for our under achievements , you cannot blame the board for this shambles, i'll guarantee you that the Celtic wage bill is higher than 90% of the clubs competing in the europa cup , blame the over paid prima donnas that are playing week in week out........ Stevie

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I agree,however if the board allow NL to purchase Liam ridgewell and aldo de nigris then I think we would win the spl...that's all we need 2 quality players

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26 Aug 2011 19:33:12
after the last 2 shambolic performances does anyone else think it may be a blessing in disguise if if uefa/fifa dont through sion out of the europa cup as going by recent performances it will be very very embarrasing against ath madrid,udinese & rennes who although not the 3 best sides on the go are still a lot better than us and certainly better than sion and st johnstone.
ps i always thought wayne biggins was the biggest embarassment ever too wear the hoops but that greek clown samaras and baldy dan are not far behind and in my opinion neither of them should ever grace the hoops again.

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Totally agree but i fear Sion will (quite rightly )get thrown out, we will then no doubtedly be on the receiving end of a few hammerings in the group stages, meanwhile the spl slips away for yet another season. We should accept we're sadly not good enough for the Euro consolation cup

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I take it the 2 clowns who think the above post is unbelievable are supporters of the manky mob from castle greyskull as no true celtic fan think the 2 idiots mentioned should ever play again

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26 Aug 2011 19:07:20
Hi Ed. Just wondering how much Celtic acctually got for Izlam Feruz. Thought he was the way forward. HH {Ed007's Note - The compensation hasn't been sorted yet, it will likely be in the region of 350k as it is a standardised system Chelsea use in such matters.}

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Nothing has been agreed yet celtic are still hopeful of signing him i hope we do he could be a great player for celtic and worth alot of money in the future

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To be honest the lad owes Celtic big time . Hope he does the right thing by establishing himself here and then moving on .
CelticMatt

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Celtic helped the bhoy and his family. the least he could do it give it another year. DomBhoy

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26 Aug 2011 18:58:55
{Ed007's Note - Wee Pats take on the Euro exits is in the CFC News Section.}

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26 Aug 2011 17:55:26
there will be no straight route into champions league for the winners of spl im sure ed will back me up on this one. plus if we get into europa league i fear well end up 2nd again cause that shower of imposters we have wont be able to handle midweek games aswell {Ed007's Note - I don't have time to wade through it and be 100% certain, but I think it is entry at the third qualifier. Someone did send me a link on Twitter earlier (Wikipedia though) saying both first and second place enter at the third qualification round??? The sites are that busy that I don't really have time to look into it further just now, sorry. Here is the Wiki page, but I don't count Wikipedia as a reliable source at all.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012%E2%80%9313_UEFA_Champions_League

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The winners go straight into the champs league next year

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This seasons winner goes right in to the group stages. It is the year after when everyone will have to qualify

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Here ed see that wiki page diz he write aw hiz ain stuff ur is it in kerean, n' anithur thing he's akchewally kwite big. wheres that 'kin kat,here smelly puss, naw no you vera,k'off

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Hope im wrong and youz r right but lets be honest will it matter if we keep playing the way we have been. we cant even blame it on the team having to gel like the neighbours can. am not being defeatist just trying to be realist. sorry if you dont agree lads. but looking at their signings and the guys there gona get back plus the experience the team has at winning leagues. i fear the worst. still will be at paradise tho. good times and bad.

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I think what happend to us was a shock that we needed cause we wernt good enough but if we do get through to the group stages we will need to spend and i think thats what we will do and i dont think if we do it will effect our preformance in the league if we get better players in hail hail

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I feel the year after but if we BOTH do well in the CL... and the swiss have a bad run then we can claim the place back. Its why we got that place back last year

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26 Aug 2011 18:14:10
well i am gutted just like every other old firm fan but i am not going to point the finger at the board or neil lennon. we all see how much money sky are pumping into e.p.l. while we are left with the crumbs on the table. the truth is sky does not want scottish football apart from the old firm but they are happy to take scottish money for their product.
maybe its time for us scots to pull the plug on sky.

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Shamrock Rovers dont have any cash and look where they are.

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Then we would ave even less money without sky so that is the worst idea i ave ever heard in my life

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Theres more to SKY than football, so I wont be unsubscribing

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We might have less money but would probably have a stronger team there is no pressure on teams like shamrock rovers or maribor they are expected to lose back in the eighties it was normal for celtic rangers aberdeen and dundee utd to do well in europe then when the big money started to come in the results got poorer even when rangers had the big money english players in europe they were poor apart from one year then we had some real good european nights when martin o neil was here and when gordon strachen was here but we had some really good players then now we dont have enough money to get the good quality in so we need to go back to the youth policy and the fans have to be patient and give them a chance

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Do you not think we would be better looking for a better options than sky like the s.p.l. investing in our own t.v. channel which would include interests for fans from all the clubs in the s.p.l.

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I totaly agree with you mate with regards to Sky money. Celtic received 1.75mil last year and if you compare that to West Ham's parachute payment of 25m it just shows how little money we receive. I have to rely on Sky for SPl as I live in Hertfordshire and I think the coverage is a token gesture if you ask me. Bring back Setanta Sports

There was talk of the SPL making their own channel last year but I haven't heard anymore.

Celtic & Rangers will unfortunately be buying at best average players as lets be honest who want's to ply there trade in the SPL.

I watched the Hoops 1st game against Hibs at Easter Road & was appalled that the home support couldn't fill their stadium on the opening game of the season against Celtic.


I beleive teams outside the old-firm need to have an honest look at themselves and ask the question; Do we contribute to the SPL & Scottish football? Sorry the answers no.

There has never been a better time for |Celtic & Rangers to beg to join English football. I'd happily join Div 1 for a (hopefully) couple of seasons to progress to the EPL.

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Richybhoy the thing is with hibs is that they have lost a lot of good players and i can understand why the hibs fans are not turning up, its the same with aberdeen they have a good fan base as well. motherwell on the other hand are playing well and more fans are turning up but scottish football needs a better t.v. deal so these teams can keep their players and build on what they have got. the english don`t want us down there so i can`t see that happening. setanta sports was o.k. if you where an old firm fan but we need better coverage of the other teams in the s.p.l. as well for their fans to take an interest and put money into it.

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Fair point about the Hibs fans losing players and I agree Well are turning up in numbers when they're doing well.

I think for the old firm to get back to a decent level we need to leave Scottish football and join a Euro lge. Again this won't ever happen.

Still, we can win the league this season. HH

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26 Aug 2011 17:35:24
What the F**k is wrong with you all celtic had the least conceeded goals last season down to the defence oviously so leave dan maj alone hes a great guy to have at the back

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Honestly m8 have u ever watched maj play? i think not becoz the guy is a total diddy and any1 who says he aint havent got a clue

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You obviously havent watched him because sounds like your a season ticket holder at Jurassic park, his positional awareness is atrocious and has cost us too many games.

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Are u serious? Have u been to a game and seen him play? Ive seen milk turn quicker than that big tool
All round improvement is needed anyone who cant see that needs help.

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You havin a laugh the big swede is a tumshy(turnip)

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You are havin a laugh mate dan makes that tit loovens look like JT he is a complete liability slower than NL would be now and a f**kin idiot, he single handedly knocked us out of europe and struggle to think of a single time he has looked confident, stuff selling him get him out release the t**t

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Big dan runs as thou he is toeing a caravan, and to go to ground inside a minute is beyond me. if he stays on his feet i think the keeper might have stopped this as the boy took a heavy touch and did not have close controll of the ball, very poor for the so called experianced player

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Dan should be back up at best. He is off form at the mo. Lennon shouldnt have played him the other night. IMO Lennons judgement is starting to look suspect.

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Yeah & hes "not the real jesus,his names dan & hes been a very naughty boy, now clear off"
marty bhoy

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Ah it wouldnt be the same unless Celtic fasn shooting down their own players. you would think other Celtic teams had never been beat.

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Mate waken up think you are on the wrong site, were talking SPL record, when it comes to the big boys our defence is pish as usual.

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Get a grip of yourself he is a bombscare u must be off ur head if you want him at the back

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Yes mate I agree...the back door unfortunatlely

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26 Aug 2011 17:32:28
Why doesn't NL go back for aldo de nigris fulham seemed to have dropped intrest decent buy for 2million.......Ed? {Ed007's Note - I have no idea, I would like to see him signed though.}

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I agree I would go all out to get him looks like he could have a larsson impact .. Would be a great.

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26 Aug 2011 17:02:42
I see the Frenchies are expecting to mee the hoops in the EL. Lifted this from the Rennes website:
Le calendrier des matchs – Jeudi 15 septembre : Udinese – SRFC à 21h05- Jeudi 29 septembre : SRFC – Atletico Madrid à 19h- Jeudi 20 octobre : SRFC – Celtic Glasgow à 19h- Jeudi 3 novembre : Celtic Glasgow – SRFC à 21h05- Mercredi 30 novembre : SRFC – Udinese à 19h- Jeudi 15 décembre : Atletico Madrid – SRFC à 21h05

C'mon the CAS
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It actally says (translated to English) Finally, the third opponent of Stade Rennais FC will definitely be known in a few days. Initially drawn in the group of SRFC, the FC Sion could be excluded from the competition and replace it with the Scots of Glasgow Celtic , last opponent in the Swiss

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Jeudi 15 septembre ?ɬ† 21h05 : Udinese / SRFC

Jeudi 29 septembre ?ɬ† 19h : SRFC / Atl?ɬ©tico Madrid

Jeudi 20 octobre ?ɬ† 19h : SRFC / FC Sion ou Celtic Glasgow

Jeudi 3 novembre ?ɬ† 21h05 : F.C Sion ou Celtic Glasgow / SRFC

Mercredi 30 novembre ?ɬ† 19h : SRFC / Udinese

Jeudi 15 d?ɬ©cembre ?ɬ† 21h05 : Atletico Madrid / SRFC

Direct from there website....so they aren't sure how the case is gonna go

Even if we do get in, it will be a hollow victory to group stages.....we were well beaten and will be by the teams we join (IF we get in)

DazzaBhoy

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26 Aug 2011 16:47:35
Hi Ed, I'm sure your getting sick of this Sion thing but would I be right in saying that the Swiss FA are also in bother with Uefa for registering the players against Uefa's wishes and could be expelled from all Uefa competitions.

Mark {Ed007's Note - The Swiss FA will claim they went with the legal court ruling, but technically they could face sanctions as well.}

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26 Aug 2011 16:37:49
Has anyone else noticed Sion's first goal was more Browns fault because he doent have the skill to be playing out on the right If we had a winger on in that area we would have retained the ball.

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The 1st goal was Majstorovic fault, end of.

Drew

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26 Aug 2011 16:25:49
Thank the we man above both teams are out scottish football take a look . youth is the way forward any1 brought in aint better thean what both teams have in there youths .
we have tried everything else so try the youths atleast we know they are tring

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26 Aug 2011 16:20:01
Have heard that Middlesborough are in for Le Fondre and that Celtic have enquired about McDonald and McManus from 'Boro. If that is correct I have mixed feelings on this. As they say 'Never go back' so what do you guys think?
Why not go the whole hogg and go for Robson as well and give them Sam and Dan the Vagina Brothers


Jinky Fan.

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I think it would be a great signing. for both. McManus next to wilson and mcdonald a back up to stokes and hooper. (thats if lennon decides to play stokes)

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I've heard a whisper that rasmussen and maloney are going to middlesborough with macdonald and macmanus coming our way.

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McDonald looks as though he's wearing two body warmers under his stripe instead of only the one when he was with us.
And McManus is just Dan with hair.

I'll take LeFondre and a cheeky loan bid for D Wilson of Liverpool.

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To be honest if they sign McManus a give up We need to go forward not back.

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McManus and McDonald were both slated at Celtic, McManus was poor and McDonald was labelled fat. I thought it was a mistake letting McManus go but would prefer a young striker to partner Hooper with.

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Mick mcmanus is one of the worst celtic captains ever, an even worse defender too i'd never go back if we bought him again. shocking rumour hope its a silly fan pulling our leg

ktf davybhoy

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26 Aug 2011 16:19:06
hi ed could you tell what happens if celtic get put in the europa league if celtic won the tie they would have been in pot2 while sion were in pot4 so that means that if we get in we would be playing 3 tough pots with great teams so wot happens with this ? {Ed007's Note - I can't see them doing the draw again, so I would imagine the draw would stand as it is.}

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26 Aug 2011 15:18:40
Ok so we might get back into Europe through the back door which would generate some much needed cash to pay a decent wage for a decent player. Only thing is decision on Sion being made on Tuesday and window closes Wednesday Will we spend without the guarantee of Euro cash? I doubt it. One thing is for sure. Samara should not be at the club any more. He lacks heart and ambition and Lenny you are making a major mistake every time you put your faith in him. I said after Ross County that Sammy would cost Neil his job. I know it's a bit harsh but he prob cost us the league last year yet he is still getting a game. Paddy McCourt would put in more effort and score more goals (wouldn't be hard) Come on Neil wake up mate

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How can u say Samaras cost you the league? He didnt miss his penalty... McGregor saved it PLUS do you 4get Inverness when yas bottled it?

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Samaras has got something special but the problem is you only see it in very very small doses, he definitely has to go but don?¢‚Ǩ‚Ñ¢t for one minute believe Paddy McCourt is the answer, Paddy is the laziest player at Celtic, the fact the guy is from Derry has kept him in favour with the Celtic support, Samaras is a better player and there transfer fees will show this if we manage to punt these two lazy B**tards

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Everyone blames Sammy. I don't particularly think the guys has done anything for us but to blame him for us losing the league is wrong. We got beat at Inverness in a game that quite simply wins us the league and he didn't play. Last week against St Johnstone another game that could eventually cost us the league, he didn't play. Sammy is a scapegoat and he doesn't contribute much these days but he's not to blame.

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26 Aug 2011 14:59:44
I know we are all upset( god i am) but are there any footie rumours arround today???

Have a bad felling it will be like the last window and get nowt

bristolcelt

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Well sign some one. the board know they have to after last night. i just fear it will be a "big name" instead of strengthening positions that are needed

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I actually don't think the Board care. They won't spend any more money, maybe a loan or two but that's it. They will also try and sell some players. There is no real ambition and to hell with the fans as far as I can see.

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If we hed sold=mginn 250k
jurez 2.5mil
murphy 500k
odea 500k
thomson 200k
instead of loaning them
we could of brought a decent center half/striker and still be in europe and top of the league

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I think they'll sign somebody. Maybe a useless tosser from the English 2nd division to apease the fans. Celtic had about 7 foreign players on the park last night. How many of them understand the pride that Murdoch or McNeil felt EVERY time they pulled on a celtic shirt? Isn't this the hub of the problem? Nobody in the team knows or cares about the history, they do it for the money. Did Celtic buy Jinky from some unknown Russian or Slovak side? and what about Chalmers, Lennox, Gemmel? The pride in Celtic is no longer felt by the players. Celtic need to get that back, get players who care about the club and feel for the club. Guys that can grace the shirts worn by the Lions. But the current board will sanction the signing of somebody like Adam Le Fondre when it is clear that a big centre back is needed. Sorry mate, I hijacked your post a bit.

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To the last poster. Sorry mate but saying that foreign players don't have pride when pulling on the jersey is bull. While I agree that some of the players don't look like they care, just look at Kayal and Hooper when they play. Look at Stephane Mahe, his wife left him to move back to france with his kid and he stayed becasues he loved Celtic. And it showed when he was sent off against the orcs and left the field in tears, knowing at had cost the team. Look at Thommo, big Johan, Sutton and big bad John. Larsson, Moravcik. Crosas said before he left that when he was watching from the stands, he knew he wasn't a Celtic player anymore, because he was a fan and that it was more painful to leave Celtic than his childhood heroes Barca. Real footballers have pride when pulling on the jersey, mercenaries however don't.. What do you think ed?
Ben Bhoy 1916 {Ed007's Note - I'm with you in this one Ben, it is the individual person and their character.}

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The post above is correct but a big part of these players falling in love with celtic and having the pride etc was down to people like Tommy Burns selling the club and its history to them we need someone like that a the club to inform these signings what this club means {Ed007's Note - I have said on many occasions to my friends etc that Billy McNeill should have a similar role at CFC to Bobby Charlton has at Man Utd. He knows the club inside out and commands respect throughout the game at every level.}

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26 Aug 2011 14:44:37
If Lennon continues with Majstorovic it will cost him his job, never been more confident of anything. I think a striker and a centre half will be in by Wed. However for this Sun i would like to see Mark Wilson at Centre half along with Kelvin coz he can and has played there before. Mulgrew at left back and Matthews at right back. Nothing but a win will do on sun and i think this is the only back four available that will make sure it happens.

Drew

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Yes Wilson and Mulgrew have been our best CH's over the last few years. A bit worried about sunday. St Mirren are not going to be easy

David

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@David - What the hell are you talking about 'Wilson and Mulgrew have been out best CH's over the last few years'?

We only bleeding re-signed Mulgrew last season and he never started playing CH till halfway through the season out of necessity and Wilson has only ever played there a handful of times Get your facts right before posting ffs

Bunny Munro

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Is Rogne fit? if he is he should be the most obvious choice for me to partner wilson, i like wilson as well at right back but also i like the looks of cha du ri going forwards but defensively would put in wilson, johnny

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26 Aug 2011 14:34:31
Why is Scott Brown getting a new contract,he has done nothing to deserve one,Hasselbaink will be looking forward to playing against Majstorovic on Sunday,Darren Mackie caused Big Maj some trouble the last time we played Aberdeen,Majstorovic is far to slow if he is up against a forward with a bit of pace.

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26 Aug 2011 14:05:14
{Ed007's Note - A friend of mine has re-wrote a song/poem and it is in the CFC News section, The Tims They Are A Changing}

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26 Aug 2011 13:41:03
I heard that there will be a decision on Sion before the first group game, but does anyone know exactly when? If it is going to be a last minute decision, and Celtic replace them, Celtic need to make plans and preparations for the Uefa cup themselves. How can they properly prepare for a Uefa cup campaign a couple days before their first match?

One last thing. Will the uncertainty over this still affect the amount of transfer money Lennon is given? {Ed007's Note - The hearing is next week and I am hearing it will be Tuesday.}

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Have you seen Sions group.better of staying out save ourselves from more embaressment

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Decision to be made on Tuesday. Maybe we would be better not preparing

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26 Aug 2011 13:37:19
Why does Lennon not go with the 3-5-2 formation that he and his helpers played so well in , I think with the squad we have would do better in this formation , what do you all think ?
Mg69

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We don't have 2 good enough centre halves just now never mind 3

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I've always thought this is a great formation to go with when you have two great attacking full backs as we do. however there is a but For this to work well you need good central defenders and someone mopping up which we just do not have at the moment. It does make sense but only if we can get the central area sorted with another one or two QUALITY purchases.

(was amazed England never did this with Cole and Johnson as full backs)


Johnboymcs

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We dont have the defenders for that formation. Even if we did, teams wud then just go 3 up front and stretch the back 3 leaving big gaps for players like Davis and Naismith and Wylde to run in2, we would get murdered in old firm games playing that way.

Drew

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Forster
K.Wilson rogne mulgrew
Commons brown kayal ledley izzy
Hooper stokes

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3-5-2 would never work with commons on the right and neither hooper or stokes is good enough in the air

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Because a 3-5-2 the way celtic used to play it means having 3 central defenders not in action for large parts of the game. Against teams in Scotland playing one up front that means two spare men at the back and a player short in midfield. Under St martin we were only really a threat from set pieces against anyone better than run of the mill SPL games. We could play a 3-5-2 the way Barcelona play it with Ki in the Busquets role dropping in between the Centre backs and recycling posession but it means Ledley and Brown on the bench with Commons or McCourt as the main creative midfielder. If we were to sign a good quality playmaker it could work, if the team has the discipline to stick to the system.

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Few managers play it now because a 4-3-3 usually will beat it. Thats how McLeish got the better of O'Neill at first and then Martin went 4-4-2.

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Tried it last year at home in a game and played awful mate

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He has been playin 4 5 1 so far this season and its been a disaster anything is worth a try

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26 Aug 2011 13:19:47
I'm pretty certain that Sion will be chucked out , and unfortunately i think this could come back to bite us when it comes to trying to get the title back . Couldnt go another season without title, especially this one with automatic CL spot up for grabs
Stevie

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We had no european football last season and we still cudnt win the league so i wudn't worry about it.

Drew

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26 Aug 2011 13:06:23
Sion in group I with Athletico Bilbao, Udinese and Rennes. If we go into that group very tough but 3 cracking home ties. Sion were 4th seeds, but Celtic would have been in pot 2 but glamour games if we get reinstated. hail hail timalloy

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I think we need to foget about Euroup now, it has gone we wern't good enough.

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26 Aug 2011 13:04:56
Think we should withdraw our appeal, Athletico , Udinese, and Rennes . More humiliation

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26 Aug 2011 13:03:38
thats a group i woulda loved to have been in

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26 Aug 2011 13:03:18
So if we are reinstated back into Europa League this is who we have

Atletico Madrid
Rennes
Udinese


Do we want back in ?????

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European nights back at paradise....i think so :)

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Definitely, look if this team did what they are getting accused of then they should be punished, why was the tie allowed to go ahead in the first place? They have obviously played players who were not eligible to play blatant cheating.

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Whit ye get all this chat but truth is the team is sooo s**t it's untrue....

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Only appealling thing would be the MONEY mate, we dont have the team to take on any of the above teams, sad but true johnny

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26 Aug 2011 13:02:26
Athletico, Udinese, Rennes and SION would we get through.


No

Spurs and Shamrock Rovers as well.

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26 Aug 2011 12:54:18
watching the draw live on the uefa site and i notice that Sion have a * next to their name (but i've no idea why and no sound on this pc so dont' know what that's all about) {Ed007's Note - They are only provisionally in the draw, it is becoming a bit of a farce now IMO.}

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Didnt have a start on the official website for the draw

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Becoming a bit of a farce now? it's been a farce from the outset. Why has this taken so long when Uefa were able to make the Rankers decision in hours of the complaint and acted very quickly regarding the Fenerbahce issue to remove and replace them. Sion will not be kicked out, IMO. If this was against a team from a so called big leauge, England Spain Italy or Germany this would have been resolved weeks ago. {Ed007's Note - The whole situation should have been resolved after the first leg, they broke the rules then and it should have been dealt with. The Rangers situation was an employment issue and the Turkish one was match rigging. This has legal ramifications which I would imagine is the hold up.}

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26 Aug 2011 12:37:54
Ed is Lennon doing the usual Friday press conference today? Interested to hear about this striker that we were only days away from signing. Place could do with a lift...... {Ed007's Note - I don't see why he won't hold his usual weekend pre match press conference at some point.}

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26 Aug 2011 12:33:25
whatched last nights game embarrsment or what we need new players nd get sum out like samaras hes terrible get him away your lucky if u get anything fu him though about 100 thousand is prob wht u get a dnt hink hes worth a penny tho and majostorovic hes a fud a new cb and striker go for theirs a guy that plays for udinese hes called ighalo hes a strikers hes 21 and hes fast as lightning and a deffender called subotic that plays for borrusia dortmund i think hes 21 as well i thinnk hes a good deffender

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U r living in fantasayland if u think we would have a chance with nevin subotic. he is being touted to move to one of europes top clubs. would cost about £15-£20 million at least

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The sme subotic that man utd wanted for close to 20 million.aye nb pal,a hink u better stay aff that glue

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26 Aug 2011 12:32:57
Celtic could be handed a route back into the Europa League after UEFA president Michel Platini said that Sion were "in clear violation" of a ban on transfers and had used ineligible players in the competition.

Sion defeated Celtic 3-1 to take a place in the group stages but had registered five new signings in their squad. A FIFA ruling had banned them from all transfer activity for two transfer windows.

That ban has been in dispute and is set to be heard by the Court of Arbitration for Sport but Platini has said that UEFA will make a ruling on Sion's participation before their first group match on September 15.

"What is happening there is the rules have not been respected. FC Sion has not respected the rules of the transfer ban," Platini said. "They signed players and then played those players."

Sion have challenged the rulings made against them in a Swiss court but UEFA general secretary Gianni Infantino said that was not relevant to footballing matters and confirmed that they could be ejected from the Europa League.

"The civil court ruling does not affect UEFA," Infantino insisted. "We will look at our rules and the FIFA rules. There is a ruling by FIFA, CAS have ruled, it went to the Swiss supreme court and everything was confirmed but it has been challenged again.

"It is an interpretation question which is complicated - whether a two transfer-window ban means two transfer windows or parts of several transfer windows.

"Sion will be in the draw but they can be subsequently excluded. The control and disciplinary body will make a decision certainly before the group stage starts."

If Sion are proven to have fielded an ineligible player following Celtic's protest, the automatic punishment under Article 14bis of UEFA's disciplinary regulations is a 3-0 forfeit.

The rule reads: "A match may be declared forfeit if a player who is ineligible under the regulations of the competition concerned participates in the match, as long as the opposing club files a protest."

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26 Aug 2011 12:28:10
Stokes must b totally shattered today, our best forward this season is left on bench for hooper who isn't 100 per cent fit and samaras who has no heart or desire Why?

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Did you watch the game last night mate, Hooper and Samaras were brilliant last night considering the 4-4-1 we had to play. Stokes did nothing for us at home against Sion. Samaras is made a scapegoat at every turn and its starting to wear thin, watch the game properly and see that there are so many others, Ki, Brown, Commons etc who deserve far greater criticism.

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Samaras strolled around on the halfway line most of the second half, i thought stokes should have been brought on at 2 nil, but to bring commons on 87 minutes in 3-1 down?

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In reply to the first reply, are you having a laugh? SAMARAS? he is an absolute waste of space , him and big dan should have their contracts torn up , hes made a scapegoat because he is a jokeno desire for the team , fails to be able to lift his head within 15 seconds of having the ball at his feet, Samaras should have been taken off soon as we went to 10 men as playing with him is like having a man down anyway , he gives nothing scores none and is a disgrace to be in a celtic top

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26 Aug 2011 12:26:48
Sorry to say this.. It is hard to say but IMO mk dons would win the spl and they are league1 ..I can't think of Celtic ever being this bad it's a shame Lawell & co can't spend money it's so obvious our players are not Celtic class I would play larsson he would score more goals than our strikers even now.

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Its a combination of things for me

Poor players (we all know who they are)
A niaeve manager. (the board appointed him).

The real issue is here is the board and here is the problem. They keep telling us the club must be run within its budget and we cant get in to debt, but if they are running things as a business then all businesses have to go forward and invest to progress otherwise the regress. We as a club are regressing through complacency and more worryingly a complete lack of investment. If we had spent £10 million this year, we would have made the Europa league stages and recouped that money and with that investment would probably bring the league back. That would mean we get straight in to the CL recouping our investment with money left over for reinvesting.

The fans are being made a fool of and their loyalty being exploited to the full. We have two shareholders who are near off billionaires who are penny pinching. I have to question why they are there in the first place if they wont put their ££ where their mouth is. The only way this will change is if the fans vote with their feet and stop turning up. Before I get any comments of "call yourself a fan, etc etc" as a season ticket holder, yes I do and our actions will speak volumes. Enough is enough.

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Part of the reason there's no money is due to fans not attending matches. So take your comments about voting with your feet and stick them pal.

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26 Aug 2011 12:25:32
If Sion get booted out and we are there direct replacement we will have a tougher draw than we would of if we progressed. We would have been in pot 2 and Sion are in pot 4.

Jamie

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26 Aug 2011 12:17:44
Sion should be kicked out of europe. Sad times for scottish football. Rangers and Celtic get your money out (if we have any)

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26 Aug 2011 12:15:48
Sion have been accused of fielding ineligable players so Celtic could get a life line

BBC News

Pardoe

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26 Aug 2011 11:59:35
daily record - scott brown hires personal shopper. says it all about how good these clowns think they are

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Nearly spewed when i read that this morning. Maybe he should hire someone to show him how to pass, head, shoot and tackle

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26 Aug 2011 11:48:01
a hope someone ouside the old firm wins the league this season , if that doesnt get the board spendin a dont know what will ...

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26 Aug 2011 11:45:29
The Europa League draw starts at 12 noon. Might aswell keep an eye on the draw as we may end up replacing Sion...although it will be an embarrssing way to enter any tournament.

TrampsPants.

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26 Aug 2011 11:32:48
Celtic could be handed a route back into the Europa League after UEFA president Michel Platini said that Sion were "in clear violation" of a ban on transfers and had used ineligible players in the competition. (STV website) - I don't understand it, why break the rules like this so blatently ? Can you shed any light Ed ? {Ed007's Note - I have just spoken to Ed002 about this, she is an expert on that kind of stuff. As a follow up to what I have already stated, she has told me that Sion have a strong counter argument that there new players were registered. How could that happen if there was still a ban in place? I would not expect anything to happen today and the draw will go ahead as planned using Sion. They have a position that the embargo was clearly for two transfer windows and they abided by that - then signing players who were accepted and registered and given international clearance. That is their position.}

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Ed i have read what you said and to me it sounds as if the governing bodies have made a balls up,Sion should have never been able to register those players if a ban was in place,and personally i think they will back down,hope they dont would love to see Celtic back in Europe,but the group looks a hard one,what do you think ed.MACCA {Ed007's Note - I honestly can't see how FIFA/UEFA can fail to implement their own statures, it could throw up all sorts of problems in the future. It isn't the ideal way to qualify but if they broke the rules so be it. It would be a tough group as well, but the income could be vital.}

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26 Aug 2011 11:28:05
No rumours,no stories,just this...Majstorovic MUST GO

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26 Aug 2011 11:03:39
First time poster. Any idea where Maloney and wanyama were last night? They weren't even subs. Surely wanyama is now a better bet at centre half than dan {Ed007's Note - Welcome to the site.}

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Hope maloney was as far away as possible, he's mingin

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Wanyama was terrible against St Johnstone, not Celtic class. I don't base that on one game but trawl the internet for his previous club. Their fans are amazed someone paid the money we did for him. They didn't rate him at all

Gary

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Gary m8 ur trippin. wanyama was loved by his old clubs supporters and he played much better than maj. so stop spoutin ur rubbish u plank

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26 Aug 2011 11:01:15
Scottish football is f***ed. most of the co-efficient points wee earneed in 2007/8. if we dont improve next year we will be on par with san marino and the f***ing faero islands

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26 Aug 2011 11:00:23
To all the fans who say they dont want us to go into the Europa by default must be crazy, we would get £5miliion straight away which would help us buy the CB and CF we desperately need.

Plus Denmark qualified by default for the Euro Champs years ago and went on and won it. We dont have the quality to win it right now but money talks.

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I think the 5 mil would come too late to make a difference in this window but we still need the cash.

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Agree completely mate, we'd all take it but we can't let it mask the poor displays and lack of investment.

We are all Celtic through and through but the board must look at long term investment, give us a fighting chance board and spend some money

Johnboymcs

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26 Aug 2011 10:53:10
I watched last night's tragic comedy in the pub with my Son and at least 100 other Celtic fan's the majority of whom are season ticket holders. To a man/woman we could see the glaring deficiencies on the park, so I hope Lenny and the rest could do to. It's not rocket science too many over paid over hyped players who frankly are not fit to wear the shirt. As Big Jock said "the Celtic shirt doesn't shrink to fit the player" sadly these modern day fabrics they use clearly does.

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26 Aug 2011 09:36:50
Bad enough we suffered mortal embarrassment and not to be ignorned or played down in anyway...however, surely we must sign players based on the fact the SPL winners are straight into Group Stages next year

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The winners do not go straight into the c/l they go into the 3rd qualifying round.
paddybhoy

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26 Aug 2011 09:36:27
After last night once again I was underwhelmed by our centre halfs. To my mind the best central defensive pairing we have had over the last few years has been Mulgrew and Marc Wilson. I know every one will say they are fullbacks and not center halfs but they both seemed alert, quick, read the game well, and comfortable with the ball at their feet. McNamara and Boyd both moved in to the center with great effect, and I think this is what should happen now. Mathews and Cha can be the full backs. Hope your listening lenny

David

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Honestly the crap sum ppl talk is unbelievable. mulgrew and m.wilson r no were near as gd as k.wilson.yes they wud be better than maj but thats not hard

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26 Aug 2011 08:40:28
2 weeks ago i thought this season could be a walk in the park now i fear the worst, a quality cb and cf are a must right now, or it will be 4 in a row for that mob...c,mon lawell get the cash out now you,ve took us fans for granted for years,

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26 Aug 2011 01:52:45
majstorovic must never play again for the hoops. well done sion we dont deserve to qualify and hope were not put in by default. why cant we spend £5m before these games to make sure we qualify and get the money back or an i being too sensible here?

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Will Majstorovic meet the same fate as Hooiveld did after last years farce?? Lennon didn't give him a sniff at the 1st squad after that Fingers crossed

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Aye someone Samaras gets away with it game in game out

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26 Aug 2011 01:41:53
stop wasting time on garbage foreign mercineries that are only concerned with the money. coach our youngsters right and give them a game. why is that clown samaras still here and rogne is twice the player majstorovic will ever be. loovens can piss off too

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26 Aug 2011 01:38:14
said it a couple of years ago we shouldve signed s.fletcher when he was hibs so we would be way ahead of the rest of the spl. but we missed out and now hes worth a lot more. how long are celtic going to do this. just spend some f***ing money and get a return on them either by winning prize money (europe) or selling them on for more. IT SHOULD BE FOOTBALL BEFORE BUSINESS. fans pay plenty to watch their team not to see owners making profit.

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Agree completely and posted similar comments yesterday. We have regularly missed out on not just good players but also financial benefits through large seel on fees for numerous players. Two main recent ones hat spring to mind are:

Fletcher as you stated, we bid for him but did not go the extra mile to sign for him. Last move he made he went for 7 million and figures being quoted about the press down here in Engalnd were 10m plus now for him to move elsewhere. This would have been a great profit and also given us the quality for the period of time we had him.

McCarthy, linked with him and reported interest but not followed up with a bid. Now being quoted as a £10m plus prlayer who is getting rave reviews in the premiership and is destined for one of the top four in few years.

We have top business men on the board who have amassed huge wealth but yet seem unable to see player expenditure as part of both finacial and success long term.

Not asking for £50 m but come on board, Lawell, Desmond, O'Brien, set up a plan to invest sensibly for future success. A £10 m fund initially would be a start

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26 Aug 2011 00:36:15
Cudn't give a toss about weather we deserved to go through or not 2nite. Ill take qualification by default if we have to. Who are Celtic these days to be turning down european football. Sion were warned by uefa im sure. They're own fault if they're given the boot.

Drew

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U should give a toss, celtic were beaten by a team who finished 7th in their league they were a poor side who we should beat easily, embarrasing if we get in by defualt, just get beat again away in europe anyway, a joke

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In Euro 88 in sweeden Denmark replaced disqualifed Yugoslavia and won it

David

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26 Aug 2011 00:27:54
Online Petition to Change our game, support change, embrace it...it needs to happen.

www.ipetitions.com/petition/spl2011

Our game is dying a quick death and it needs to be stopped

Ed please post this, we need t stand together to fix the scottish game {Ed007's Note - If you leave an e-mail address (nobody else will see it) I will contact you regarding this.}

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Eh no offence mate but what exactly is the "change" you're on about, and why would FIFA and UEFA care about changing anything in our country over those in San Marino, Andorra, England or anywhere else in Europe or planet Earth?

Declare a decent mission statement on how we might actually change (or for the love of got at least mention WHAT you want changed) and maybe I'll sign it.

IMO highlighting the gap in finances between and as a result, in your opinion and in the opinion of millions in Europe - unfair distribution of wealth to top leagues who already gain millions per annum in sponsorship deals might be a good start.

But then I wouldn't only support Scotland's league. I'd support the Swiss and Slovenian leagues as well - none of these guys are exactly laughing their way to the bank on 375k a week, certainly no more than they're laughing at us.

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Hi guys Rangers fan here I agree with a petition but i think its both our clubs super rich owners that need to be targeted they both have the idea of targeting worldwide markets with us targeting america and you asia to make the cash but they are not spending it ok they needto operate accordingly but the money is made through qualifications and tv deal but how do we get tv deals if nobody wants to watch our mediocre players without spending on quality players then we will not earn the good tv deal we must speculate to accumulate we have both become the "whipping boys" we ourselves used to take to the cleaner and it is not acceptable. Thursday the 25th of august could be remebered as the day thats scottish football died or the day that change began i think in some cases rivalries must be put to 1 side and we must stand together for the good of our beloved football and teams WE DESERVE BETTER

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26 Aug 2011 00:14:43
theres not going to be a decision made on sion playing ineligible players till tuesday, so i doubt theres any chance they will throw them out. i'm not saying we deserve to be in the draw but this will now open a can of worms for uefa if they allow the swiss to continue, twice they have broken uefa's rules, if this was a scottish team they would be out on thier a***s

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UEFA are corrupt up to their eyeballs...will be interesting to see what happens I'll suffer the mortal embarrassment and go thro though.

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