Celtic Rumours Archive May 25 2016

 

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25 May 2016 21:44:34
Alrite guys, any truth that Scott Allan is to be released? I know br will need to cut the squad down but think we should give him a good pre season before cutting our losses?

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25 May 2016 22:09:00
He's not good enough for celtic but can't see him being released when we could probably make our money back on him.

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26 May 2016 00:23:20
He's not had enough game time to say he's not good enough for Celtic, I agree with gmac 84 he deserves a good pre-season before we just discard him, same applies to Logan Bailly .

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26 May 2016 08:54:37
Did he not have a career before celtic he can be judged on like?
We bought a player from the Scottish championship and people expect him to walk into the the champions team.
He has nothing his entire career.

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26 May 2016 12:56:56
Liam Henderson and John Mcginn play championship, they'd walk straight into the lineup, I agree before that he's done nothing but he deserves a chance.

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26 May 2016 13:03:33
Surely L Henderson was loaned out to the Championship as it is of a lower std and it was likely he would get more game time . It's always difficult to know if a player can make a step up from a lower league .

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26 May 2016 13:14:38
No they wouldn't.
I am a big fan of henderson but he wouldn't just walk in.
Mcginn looks like he will be a good player but has still to prove it at a high level.
Both are better than allan though.
Henderson is one of the main reasons that make the Allan signing a mistake.

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26 May 2016 13:18:02
iv no idea what went on there, why were loaning out youth who should be playing for us doesn't make sense. If there not ready fine, I'd have Henderson over brown every day of the week. Far better footballer! I'm not sayin Allan is great but definetly deserves a chance like Christie, Nesbit etc. Sorry bit of a rant, I'm just sick of us neglecting our youth when it should be a conveyor belt of good young players. Like Ajax, feyenoord and Psv.

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26 May 2016 14:50:25
Guys a few of you are getting yer heads in a spin for nothing. No-one has said anyone is leaving yet. I'm sure some will leave and a few might come in but the new manager's coat is still swinging on the back of the door. Give him a wee chance to look at what we have first!

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{Ed007's Note - Rodgers has been looking at the squad and looking back through matches for a couple of weeks now.}

26 May 2016 15:23:01
The only reason for signing Allen that I can think of was to stop him signing for Sevco.

Hopefully with BrenDan in he can bring him on and improve him into a first team player.

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26 May 2016 16:47:57
I think Scott Allan has something decent in his locker. The lad is keen to play and he deserves the opportunity to show what he can do. If he fails to do that then we should punt him but it's a bit harsh being so critical of him without him getting a chance to do something. He has been a bit part player here and a bit part player there. Just because Ronny couldn't find a place for him doesn't mean he can't be a decent player for us. Let's be honest, Ronny's structure and gameplan wasn't anything to shout about, or have we all forgotten that already!

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26 May 2016 17:00:45
What would be the point of signing him just to stop him playing for a team who were in a different league? Surely he was signed because he had some potential?

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26 May 2016 17:26:59
Did a championship team not play us off the park in the semi final it pains me to say it, and then there's Morton couple seasons ago.

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26 May 2016 19:26:23
Why haven't hibs miss him if he is so great?

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28 May 2016 00:23:15
I hear Peter Lawwell is trying to convince Brendan Rodgers there is only the last match against Motherwell available for viewing.

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28 May 2016 00:28:12
The most disappointing thing I have seen in all the new and young bhoys who got a chance last season Scott Allan didn't seem to put the effort in to show he wanted to impress, he tried to play on the peripheral of the game.

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{Ed007's Note - You're spot on, Chris, he never looked that interested when he played, there's no excuses for lack of effort, especially when you're supposed to be trying to earn a place, games seemed to just pass him by.
Craig Gordon, Leigh Griffiths, KT, Rogic, McGregor, Sviatchenko, even Christie and Aitchison against Motherwell are all examples of players getting a chance and grabbing it. People make the excuse that Allan hasn't had a chance but he has, he's just never done anything when he's been given it.
Would KT be first choice LB if he had put in performances like Allan has when he's been playing?}

25 May 2016 17:22:20
Brendan Rodgers has name Chris Davies who was at Reading, Swansea and Liverpool with him as his No2 at Celtic .

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25 May 2016 19:48:36
Heard that was case few days ago and that Kennedy might be getting kept on to.

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25 May 2016 17:00:23
Ed : Our new assistant manager is Chris Davies.
Thoughts anyone?

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25 May 2016 22:52:29
My only thoughts are that he has worked with Brendan Rodgers with two of his previous clubs . That's good enough for me, if we don't trust B R in his appointments of people he has worked with, how can we have any faith in him signing players who presumably haven't played for him .
I trust him entirely.

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26 May 2016 00:24:36
I'm with OldBhoy. He looks to have made quite a quick rise in coaching. Rodgers could have went for experience. But Davies is obviously somebody he trusts, somebody who knows his methods and drills and should make the transition easier. And that's good enough for me.

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26 May 2016 02:03:30
Most of us want Rodgers to have final say on recruitment so whatever he chooses will do me fine. Let him live or die by his own sword. In Rodgers we trust hail hail!

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{Ed007's Note - I was reading this earlier:

www.tomkinstimes.com/2014/09/interview-with-lfcs-head-of-opposition-analysis/

26 May 2016 02:26:02
It's late n that's a long article but had a quick look, al read the rest tomorrow. Sounds good ed, it's what everyone was wanting Rd to do, change the system to accommodate the players we have and to counter the opposition. Sounds like he'll do a valuable job

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{Ed007's Note - I've not finished it either but he certainly talks the talk from what I have read.}

26 May 2016 05:19:31
Good article that. I wonder who was doing this previously if at all; I know RD brought over a Head of Performance but that was probably more focused on us than the opposition. CD has come in as assistant manager though hasn't he? With BR being unfamiliar with Scottish football CD might continue this role too.

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{Ed001's Note - opposition analysis is the area Rodgers was weakest. Craig Bellamy tells a very good story about Liverpool facing Basel in the Europa League, while he was with the club working on coaching badges. Rodgers and his staff could not figure out how Basel were playing, let alone how to beat them, after doing their analysis and then playing them once, leading to us being embarrassed by them twice in the Europa League. They needed to analyse the games afterwards to figure out what the Swiss side were doing! I can't understand how it took them so long, they could have called me and I could have told them before kick off in the first match. How a bunch of highly paid professionals could not figure it out is beyond me.}

26 May 2016 05:57:18
Ach Ed you keep coming up with nuggets like this! Lol. That is a bad one.

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{Ed001's Note - sorry mate, but it is with good reason he fails to convince me. He is very good at talking the talk, but he is so focused on telling everyone how great he is that he seems to forget about actually doing it.}

26 May 2016 09:51:42
Seem to remember LFC playing a 3-5-2 with Can and Stirling as LWB's? So ITS not a given he will play the formation according to the players and not the other way around. RD did visit Rodgers in his study trips, so the football may not be that different from RD's. Going to be a hell of a ride though. I hope he gets it right even it makes RD look like a failure.

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26 May 2016 13:13:11
Brendan Rodgers will no doubt want want to be a success at Celtic . He has had plenty of time to self analysis what went well at Liverpool and what needed to improve. I would have little doubt that a Professional like Rodgers has also sought professional advice on how to illuminate his weaknesses . There are not too many managers around who don't have weaknesses but most of them become adept at minimising them.

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25 May 2016 09:42:36
Morning ED I've been hearing 12 first team players are going cole scepovic are 2 I think other 10 don't know about yet also izzy been told he's to turn up for pre season training and the manager to be controlling his own budget plus were be signing 5 players no names mentioned.

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25 May 2016 14:50:57
Cole
Scepovic
Allan
Ciftci
Stokes
Ambrose
Mulgrew
Commons
CKR
I wouldn't be upset with any of them leaving. 12 could be a realistic number.

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25 May 2016 16:09:10
The only one I'd like to keep is Mulgrew. He has good experience and I'd rather have him as back up than Boyata.

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25 May 2016 16:18:08
I agree with that list kev, only I'd raise you Gordon and Forrest. And is Izzy away bhoys do we know? Because that would then make 12.

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25 May 2016 16:56:31
I agree with Kevbhoy on Mulgrew over Boyata who is worse than Ambrose IMO, I don't feel Scott Allan or Logan Bailly have had a fair crack of the whip either, players i would get rid of would be :
Ambrose, Boyata, Findlay, Ciftci, Scepovic, Cole, Kazim-Richards, Forrest, Stokes and Commons and I'd sell Bitton and Johansen for what I could get for them, I'd keep Izzy for another season and loan out Fisher, Henderson, O'Connell, Nesbitt, Fasan, Aitchison and Ralston to get them game time and experience,
I'd be looking for us to sign a right back, centre back, holding midfield player, wide player and 2 strikers .

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25 May 2016 17:02:31
We also have young Norwegian holding midfield player Kristopher Ajer coming in shortly .

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25 May 2016 17:13:48
Forgot about forrest to be honest would let him go tae.
Mulgrew isn't good enough.
he was shocking during the qualification campaign.
Allan was one of the most pointless signing I have seem in a long time. He's just not good enough.
Why keep izzy he CAN'T defend and is a poor crosser of the ball.

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25 May 2016 18:52:27
Forrest is out of contract from the 1st of June so he will be away.

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25 May 2016 19:23:16
tried to come up with a list of possible departures but I'm actually thinking anyone from the squad could leave

Id keep 2 of Gordon bailly fasan

Simunovic sviatchenko kt from the defenders

2 of brown sj and biton

Commons Forrest stokes Cole scepovic if buyers can be found and also trim the attacking midfielders

I can't imagine Rodgers spending money on Rb lb and squad players so thinking that there will be possible 10-15 out between perm and loans and 5/ 6 in max

Can see the squad being about 20 and youth filling gaps.

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