25 Jun 2012 23:19:42
Hi Ed ,
Im thinking that the member clubs should use these times to change Scottish football for the better .With there being no sevco . I would like to see the introduction of a 16 team SPL playing everyone twice . This being 30 games would give you time for a longer winter break . I would also like to see playoffs , the attendances at the lower league playoffs was good and generated a bit of interest . I do think that our youth set up is falling into place at the right time . These boys will get more of a chance now and are of a general higher quality than in the past . If the people at the top get this correct it could be good for the whole of Scottish football . What do you think ?
CelticMatt {Ed007's Note - I would be back any plans to restructure the league to make it a more attractive product Matt. If you eradicate the overwhelming threat of relegation it would allow teams to bring through youth players, young players will only get better playing and testing themselves at the highest level available. I have always thought play-offs are a good idea. The league split should be binned immediately IMO, it is pointless and a bit silly.}
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25 Jun 2012 23:16:18
What do u make of the wanyama Situation ed ad like to try keep him
Heard any more on transfer front Hearing bout a move for henrikson
Looking possible
Dez {Ed007's Note - There is no change in either situation that I know of.}
25 Jun 2012 20:04:48
Hi ed, great site and your views always worth reading. I maybe wrong here but all this talk about Green not know what he is doing confuses me a little.
Cant believe he and millionaires are stupid. Am i not right in saying the deal with Duff and Duffer for him to buy a liquidated ( club 12)lol. Was on the condition that said ex club were in SPL. If this the case then he can back out and doesnt care what happens lol.
What you think, Great site as always. Pat, Timalloy, GJ and not to forget
the knowledgeable Mrs E are always worth checking out.
Rayman {Ed007's Note - Thanks Rayman and welcome to the site. Green can walk away and D&P have not received the £5.5 million in full (ST money was supposedly going to make up the shortfall). He will be looking to make money out of this deal no matter how he does it. I actually don't believe a word that comes out his mouth, he has contradicted himself on too many occasions and just seems to say things that he thinks people want to hear. He could easily just sell off the assets individually, make some money and leave.}
I thought along the same lines. I no doubt he will make money, my point tho is while we all enjoyin this and cant stop laffin it is gettin deadly serious as I now think it is possible there may be no club 12 in the future as it goes from farce to farce.I myself love my club and can only feel for the genuine fans many family and friends of mine who support club 12.I wud find it unpallatable without the pleasure of beatin them every year lol.I just cant see them bein here without massive injection of cash.
Rayman {Ed007's Note - Where is Green's 20-man consortium went to? More pie in the sky that was as clear as a diabetic's pi$$ yet they all fell for one man's spin and lies again.}
Hi Rayman, thanks for the compliment (I think you are the only one that likes my jokes ha ha)
I agree about decent ex club fans, I have two nephews who are devastated by all this. I hope the police make a good job and charge the proper people that caused all this. Timalloy
If tesco buy ibrox will they become the only supermarket in the world to have won 54 league titles ?? do they get the wee stars
25 Jun 2012 19:29:10
so the vote stands at 6 - 0! my math skills are not great but i am sure that they now have no chance of gaining the required votes so why on gods green earth are we waiting on until July 4th to confirm it all? This is not just about Rangers, other teams can/will be effected by this. the teams with hopes of being "club 12" need to prepare their case, the teams looking to gain access to the 3rd division need to prepare their case. the rangers need to apply to the SFL, same as Annan Athletic did when they beat the liks of spartans and preston athletic. these kind of teams will be looking for the same opportunity of SFL football. the SFA/SPL need to grow a pair and make the decision, pretty much everybody else has made theirs so it should be sorted!
scotty bhoy
I think they have to wait at least 14 days from the application otherwise it wouldnt be legal. Tulip
Think it's just to tie up the legality of it all. Don't think there was ever any doubt anyway, the fans of other clubs were against it from the start. ... MrCheshington
I am a rangers fan but i agree with the post i would rather my club withdraws its application nd applies for div 3 we r pushing it fr time as it never mind wasting 10 days doing nothing
25 Jun 2012 19:25:22
Well done to all the SPL clubs who have come out and said "no to a new co" I just want to applaud them on behalf of the Celtic support and say thanks and we will spend cash at your grounds now that you will vote no. I also think Celtic are wise to keep their cards close to their chest for the time being but will also vote no. I also hear from a good source that Rangers before they got liquidated realised liquidation was just round the corner and spent the Rangers fighting fund on grass so the new co didn't have to find the cash to do it. Shameful why to conduct business, all rff cash should have been spent on paying small creditors like it was meant for.
I'm sure all the other clubs in SPL will be happy to hear that you lot will now spend money after holding a gun to their heads. You also have the brassneck to applaud Celtic for not doing what the other clubs did........................Amazed doesn't quite cut it - Celtic are hoping they don't need to declare their vote - why else have they left it to others to declare!! {Ed007's Note - The vote isn't until the 4th July, why should CFC come out and say anything before then and opening up it's employees and supporters to a wave of unwarranted abuse from Rangers fans and their cronies in the media. PL has played a blinder and again has shown how smart a businessman he actually is. That is two versions of Rangers been basically killed off and PL or CFC have not said a word, HMRC and now the rest of the SPL done the dirty work.
Do you not think there has been discussions held between clubs that Rangers weren't invited to? Business is business after all, ask Airdrie fans.}
If Rangers now withdraw their application to the SPL on the grouds that it is now pointless Celtic won't need to declare how they would have voted. I've no problem with that (as you say business is business) but I find it astonishing that some Celtic fans threatened to boycott any club that dared to say 'yes' (even though we'll probably never know who or if) and also demanded that PL declare a 'no' vote, now are happy that Celtic keeps it's powder dry. I've always said that the newco should start in SFL if an application is accepted as no newco should be granted special dispensation. Celtic fans can and should look forward to the new season and that lack of challenge that will be mounted from elsewhere and I'll look forward to supporting my team (newco Rangers) where ever they may be playing.
25 Jun 2012 19:13:08
Ed007...what happens now, is there play-off between the relegated and 2nd places in the SFL divisions to create a space in the 3rd ?
Will the NewCo that Charles Green has have to apply the same for the 3rd div and wait on the outcome of a vote ? The league starts 5 weeks on Saturday and we have all this SPL & SFL merger discussions .. Mrs E {Ed007's Note - It has still to be decided how the leagues will restructure Mrs. After the formal vote on July 4th Green will need to apply for entry into the SFL and produce the necessary documentation, expect Spartans and Cove Rangers to also bid for any available SFL spot.}
Ed - I think Green will announce that he no longer wishes to apply for membership to the SPL so the meeting on 4th July won't go ahead. He is running out of time.
He is now likely to go for SFL, whether that be Div 1 or Div 3.
Falkirk FC and Partick Thistle fans starting to make "No" noises.
K-Dot.
25 Jun 2012 19:11:41
my latest info re: sevco 5088 is that plans are afoot to sell all available assets, but possibly holding onto murray park to use as newcos' stadium if they aren't successful in their bid to lease hampden for 1 year.
the plan is to miss the 12/13 season so that enough funds are available to start up again as a serious contender for league titles (be it div3 or div1) to enable them to return to the spl as soon as possible.
as things stand, there is not enough money for newco to hold onto existing players and staff, or to pay bills (hmrc included!) hence why green is cracking up about players deserting the sunken ship, as they would be transfer listed at the earliest possible opportunity, thus bringing in much needed revenue.
with the players revolting (literally), this has left green and his 20 strong consortium :D woefully short of expenditure, and so plan B will roll into effect.
i broke news of old rangers proposing to rent out hampden many months ago, before administration in fact, and this is the only time i've heard another source compound those details
ps.....craigy bhoy whyte still in charge;)
taco
"the plan is to miss the 12/13 season so that enough funds are available to start up again as a serious contender for league titles (be it div3 or div1) to enable them to return to the spl as soon as possible."
I think it will be a massive challenge to get any form of RFC into any league for the coming season.
However I can see no way that if they take a year out they can then be let in at Div 1.
There is enough uproar about that possibility just now never mind in 12 months time.
MgC
The thing is, in 12 months time, all the animosity and tensions will have died down, clubs will have had a year to digest and reflect on what could/would be happening.
at the moment, i would think that even div 1 clubs would vote no, regardless of the outcome from the secret handshakes meeting on saturday.
if newco have any aspirations of being ready for the coming season, would need in excess of £40m, as right now they have nothing, no stadium, no players, no kit, no sponsor, no credit, no staff.
people have also forgotten, that mr whyte transferred rangers assets (ibrox, murray park, etc) to a company that his dad is director....the legal battle for ownership of these alone will take months to sort out
taco
They better sort them selfs out fast because time is running out and if they dont get in a league this year you can forget it forever...jc
If they do decide to take a year out then another team will have to take their place i would imagine meaning that there would be no space for the season after next. i would imagine after a quick rejig of the leagues (promoting teams up the divisions etc) that there would be highland league and east of scotland league teams applying for entry into the 3rd division. what is your take on this ED. BacciBhoy {Ed007's Note - If Green can not get a football club ready in time for next season I think it would be the dethknell of any form of Rangers being in Scottish football. How can he sustain the running costs of a 'football club' with no income for an entire year.}
25 Jun 2012 18:55:19
ed
I have my view , but what is yours on how Celtic will react financially if Rangers not in SPL next year ... would you say that has just devalued players such as Ki and Hooper as now clubs know Celtic wouldnt need these big value players to succeed in league...surely Celtic cant just keep them for a possible Champs league run ? ... big gamble ?
If a 6 million bid came in for Hooper now do u think they would now accept when in january they wouldnt
LB {Ed007's Note - I don't 100% expect Hooper to be here next season anyway. Nothing Rangers have done will effect CFC's valuation of their players.}
Is that due to contract talks? legend67 {Ed007's Note - No it is to do with his ambition to play in the EPL and try to get international recognition.}
We only play THEM RIP 4 times a season,so dont see it as a major problem,most epl fans think the leagues total crap anyway.The real deal is it doesnt matter how bad the league is there will always be talent in it and if CFC KEEP BEING CLEVER WE WILL ALWAYS GET GOOD MONEY FOR OUR PLAYERS.1.WANYAMA 7 to 9 mill,KI 6 to 8 mill,IZZY 6 to 7 mill, HOOPER 8 to 10 mill, MCGEOUGH 10 to 15 mill in 4 years PAUL GEORGE 15 to 20 MILL. come on you bhoys in green..................
25 Jun 2012 17:47:20
St johnstone latest to say No!
Six confirmed. More will follow[follow.. :o)]
This day is just getting better and better!
HH
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Very ironic that our cousins in Aberdeen gave the symbolic 5th vote.
K-Dot.
25 Jun 2012 17:39:28
St jonstone just said no,thats all folks!
Deebhoy
25 Jun 2012 16:29:35
Ed do you think the board should still come out and say no? Defo think we should. luv the site by the way. {Ed007's Note - Thanks. CFC will make their stance known at the appropriate time, I expect an 11-1 count in the final vote. Why would any club now upset their own supporters (or alienate other club's fans) when their vote is really immaterial now that five club's have made their vote known?}
True m8,the thought of other teams saying we bottled coming out wud be to much to take.
Deebhoy
Or worse the tables being turned and all the other clubs accusing us of lying down to rangers ... but i actually think it would be funny if we came out and said yes that would pi55 them right off all the abuse from the media of blood thirsty and hatred would make them look quit stuped but would it be worth it ?? nahhhhh NOOOOO
We better vote no!!
25 Jun 2012 16:21:49
Ed....you're fairly on the button with all this stuff. Speaking in general terms, what do you think will ultimately happen over at Shamesville?
I know you haven't got a crystal ball and anything you say would only ever be an opinion but your past comments show you to be fairly accurate.
ChrisBhoy {Ed007's Note - I don't think there will be any form of Rangers playing in Scotland next season. With the time required to apply and to gain all the necessary paperwork (licences etc) and put a squad together there is a very tight schedule to meet. The old club has still to be officially liquidated which takes time as well and there is also no guarantee of entry into the SFL, other teams are allowed to bid for an available spot.}
My understanding is oldco is currently in breach with pending liquidation ( any club that is in threat of not forth filling their obligations to the league can have their licence revoked ) so if the vote goes against them the oldco will officially be removed their and then creating the space before the oldco is liquidated {Ed007's Note - It is not just a footballing licence, there is a pile of paperwork required to start a football team, all licences that were granted to the oldco will need to be reapplied for.}
ED Even if they do get a team together how do they pay for it. If its the 3rd division Ibrox and Murry Park will be like a millstone round their neck. There's no way they'll come close to filling Ibrox in the 3rd.
I take your point ed but do you honstly believe the blue nose blazer brigade at the sfa wont be bending over backwards to get it sorted i would put my money on etb ogilvie is at the typewriter as we speak
Etb ogilvie is at the typewriter as we speak
No He'll be at the shredder.
Im glad someone else has said this ed i have been telling my mates for about a month that i didnt think they would be playing next season they all thought i was mad . Tulip
I think they will get a team out all b it in the sfl but there will b a zombie rangers next season
They will get a team in because someone will need to fill the void if they dont and i watch a lot of 3rd division games because my young nephew plays their they get a few young players on loan from old firm and they really stand out the newco will have a team capable of doing a job in that division the first might be a bit tougher thou if they loose all their big players
25 Jun 2012 16:16:00
Aberdeen say NO.
The games a bogey.
And we didn't have to do a bloody thing!
LMFAO!
HH
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25 Jun 2012 16:14:44
Hi ed dont know ins and outs of the legalities regarding whats going on with them but seems to me if this green is right in what he's saying about retaining players contracts then from a business point of view he's got one hell of a deal. £5.5m for a team which would mostly be sold when in div 3 generating a lot more than that is some profit. Then property, assets, merchandising etc if I was on that apprentice programme that would've been my business model for Alan Sugar. It all stinks why isnt everything they have, kept and sold to repay all creditors.
Welshbhoy {Ed007's Note - Green is wrong to think he can transfer the players over. He must be aware of the rules or he really is clueless. You can't force someone to work for someone they don't want to, slavery is illegal. The players contracts were with Rangers, their Zombie club has no claim on the player and transfer of contracts need to be agreed by the player.}
Even if he was right (and we know he's not) where would the money come from to take the players to court? The RFF? Also what would UEFA make of them taking things to civil courts again. More madness from Mr Green. Its almost as if he does not want Zombie Rangers to survive. Is he looking for an excuse to liquidate and sell assets for property development.
Civil court is a non starter they will only go by employment laws that give the players the option they wont get involved in contracts with fifa
25 Jun 2012 15:10:37
Celtic should come out now and announce where they stand in relation to Newco and SPL. Not hide behind other clubs and show that they have listened to us the fans. {Ed007's Note - Napoleon Bonaparte once said, 'Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake'.}
Agree with you Ed007.
The rest will soon realise that when it is mathematically impossible for the Zombies to gain access they will all need to vote against or run the risk of having our fans boycotting them.
Prediction: 11/1 against!
HH
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It is for the good of Scottish football that all other clubs vote first.
K-Dot.
Great quote. You are growing on me Ed. :)
Linnie88 {Ed007's Note - About bloody time :-)
Hope we are last to vote..... he who votes last laughs longest!!!!!!
Plus the MSM would have a field day if we had announced.
They would twist it into a sectarian thing and we would be the bad guys.
I think Celtic have played a blinder here as the vote will have to be unanimous now and the MSM won't be able to do a dam thing.
What a great day for football integrity!
HH
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Love the quote Ed- made me chuckle in my cornflakes lol
The way things are going we could end up with the rest of the spl threatening to boycott us to force us to vote no
Great a quote! And agree we let the other teams act from feedback from thier own fans and then daily rag is not trying to twist story into Celtic bullying other teams to vote. Best thing Celtic have done is keep well away from this.
Got to agree, Celtic have handled this situation brilliantly and I hope they stay quiet until the 4th. PL knows what he is doing and it's great that all other clubs are seeing the light.
NO TO NEWCO!
Jamesy Bhoy
25 Jun 2012 15:00:17
Inverness to vote against Newco into SPl. I make that Hearts, Hibs, Dundee Utd, St. Johnstone and Caley and means there is no chance of Newco in SPL next year. Tam the Tim.
Aberdeen voting against newco
25 Jun 2012 14:35:43
A criminal investigation is to be launched into the acquisition of Rangers Football Club in May last year.
The Crown Office asked Strathclyde Police to probe the purchase and the club's subsequent financial management.
The investigation into alleged criminality follows a preliminary examination of information passed to police by administrators.
The club was bought by Craig Whyte in 2011 before going into administration in February this year.
davie c
I think several Rangers Directors and one Andrew Dixon had better stock up on the old bogroll.
"It was the big boy that did it ..... honest" will not be an excuse.
K-Dot.
25 Jun 2012 13:47:16
Did anyone else notice in last nights commentary when Abbate (spelling) started to pull up? lawro and the other one started saying things like " oh i hope he is injured" " yeah i hope its really bad" I was absolutley disgusted! Fair enough they are Bias i can deal with that, But i thought it was despicable!
Glad them overpayed overhyped bams are out the tourney. We can get to some honest punditry now they are gone!
Evinguu
Get a life mate.
Everytime celtic play a big match i pray their big players get flattend either during or game before.
You do to {Ed007's Note - Commentators or pundits shouldn't be coming out with remarks like that. These people are paid a small fortune for their 'expert analysis and opinions', not to come across as a knuckle-dragging fan.}
Yeah i caught that straight away, i couldnt remember the player. absolute joke, they should just face facts, they are woeful! they kicked off last night with the full intention of penalties. it would have been a travesty if they'd won
Haha cheers Ed. Think its someone else whom needs a life if they wish that upon others.
Its resons like that that scotland s light years behind in footballing terms! Used to be the only tactic as a boy "if it moves kick it", "dont let him get on the ball break his legs" thats not the way to play dude... i most certainly do not wish injury upon a competitor. Sport is better when its top talent is playing. I would rather win through being good than kicking lumps out the opponent! So no I most certainly dont think that way too!
Bias is fine. If they even said oh i hope that affects his game and allows ashley Young an advantage thats absolutley fine imo. But to wish injury thats too much!
Evinguu {Ed007's Note - Imagine Gary Neville sitting on Sly and saying he hoped Stevie Me got injured during an EPL game? Or an ex CFC or Rangers player saying it about another player, there would be an outrage, and rightly so.}
I noticed when an Italian went down after a clash with an English player holding his face that twazock Lauro was slating the guy for going down holding his face and the replay showed him getting knee'd on the side of the head. After seeing that for himself Lauro said something like yeah well I hope it hurt! There comentary was disgraceful throughout. Delighted that they are out.
The worst commentary of a football match I have ever listened to.
How in god's name do muppets like Lawrenson and Andy Townsend get employed to talk about football?
England were destroyed by Italy for 90 minutes yet all we hear afterwards is that its such a traversty that heroic England have been defeated on penalties again.
England actually did about as well as anyone expected them to (apart from the population of England of course). They are roughly on a par with Russia I would have said. Miles away in class from Germany, Spain, Italy and Portugal.
Mac
Im an Italian and was enraged at that comment! This is a stage for the very best in the world to showcase thier abilities and talent, both of which England had none of in comparison to Italy last night!
Lawro was like a wee boy commentating last night. He almost broke into tears, 'why dont they just keep a hold of the ball and pass'. I thought his next comment was going to be 'Its England's turn to have the ball now, youve kept it too long, showing off, and if you Pirlo, dont give them it on the count of 3, we are all going home, and its our ball, so were taking it with us!'
25 Jun 2012 12:45:54
Bayer Leverkusen and Werder Bremen are both interested in Celtic ace Ki Sung-yuneg, his agents have confirmed.
A host of clubs are being linked with the Korean, who has emerged as one of the SPL's best players since his move to Scotland in 2009.
Russian outfit Rubin Kazan are already understood to have had a bid rejected by Celtic and now offers from Germany look likely.
"The very much respected Bundesliga sides Werder Bremen and Bayer Leverkusen are holding an interest in Ki Sung-Yueng. Bremen already scouted him live," a spokesman for Ki's agents Global Sports Agent C2 told the Korea Times.
The player himself has previously said he is more than happy with life in Glasgow and he added to the Korea Times that he would only move for first-team action.
"The most important thing is to play first-team football. If I am getting the guarantee I would play regularly, then I would not care about the location of the club," he said.
Ki has two-years left on his current deal at Parkhead.
Let the auction begin!
Jungle Bhoy.
25 Jun 2012 12:38:27
Nigeria striker Yakubu is due to arrive in China on Monday to seal a move to Guangzhou R&F.
Officials from Guangzhou and Yakubu's representatives have been negotiating the deal.
The Blackburn Rovers striker, who scored 17 league goals last season, is now poised to complete the deal in China.
Yakubu admitted in May he was looking at his options after Blackburn's relegation from the Premier League.
Details of the deal have not been revealed but he will reportedly earn around £5.7m a year ($9m US).
The 29-year-old will be following the footsteps of Didier Drogba by moving to China after the Ivory Coast captain joined Shanghai Shenghua last week.
So no more rumours he's coming to us please.We can't compete with the wages in China.
Jungle Bhoy.
25 Jun 2012 12:35:00
This was on the STV website.
Celtic's "champions route" can change depending on the results in the first two qualifiers. Possible opponents, if the seeded teams progress as expected, include Debrecen of Hungary, Maribor who have defeated Rangers and Hibernian in recent years, and Slask Wroclaw of Poland.
I'd take any of these teams.
Jungle Bhoy.
25 Jun 2012 10:26:54
Y'know i normally have time for Murdo McLeod.As an ex Celt,and a good one at that,he was also part of Wims Tims.But to be honest this newco in the SPL argument he puts forward is flawed.Toeing the record line of what a nightmare it would be if newco were banished to division three,His main theory seems to be about competition.He firstly claims that ask any celtic fan their favourite game and it will be a rangers game.Actually from a personal view mine is not.Years ago i would have thought he might have had a point,but since the rise of the Champions league i would put a few of those games ahead of rangers wins. At parkhead,Man Utd,Juve,Barcelona,Milan were for me bigger achievements. Even the UEFA cup.Liverpool away,celta vigo and ousting Barcelona all rank higher for me.Even Seville with all its disappointment,i would put above any rangers game,with the possible exception of the 4-2 game.But his biggest gaffe is saying that Parkhead would be half empty with the league won in mid season.His answer to this? Let newco in and dock them thirty points so there is no chance of them winning the league.Wouldnt the league still be won in mid season then Murdo?So crowds will turn up just because newco are in the league? Utter nonsense.He ends his article by saying Celtic v rangers would pack the place out.One big problem here Murdo,you seem to have fallen in to the trap of caling newco rangers.They are not,rangers are being liquidated,soon to be just a note in the history of our game.I would urge you to remember that before using the name constantly in your piece..........green jhedi
Don't usually post (although I do read daily) but had to agree with you GJ.
I think the reason is simply that there are now too many Old Firm games (or there were before Rangers died) and it simply became, I don't want to say just another game because it was never that, but you get what I'm saying. The Champions league, now more than ever, wasn't quite so readily available and therefore has alot of excitement attached. Rangers, as they once were, or even now, are no longer our biggest game. When I was growing up in the late 80's early nineties, and we were pretty diabolical it has to me said, the Rangers games were massive, and quite rightly so, as they were our cup final. Then, as we became more competitive, they became league deciders. Still great. But more and more, as it went to 4 old firms a season (at least), and we (both Celtic and Rangers) became less dominant of the domestic game (and woeful in Europe), it was no longer a league decider either. So it became all about the hate - and it's just that hard to muster so much vitriol four times a year. That's something the darkside will always be better at!
Was gonna post similar GJ, 1 other point , i got to wondering why 30 pts, why not 40 or 50 or 20 ,so i checked last years tables and just as i thought , 30 pt deduction would have put the newco 3pts clear of hibs and 10 pts clear of dunfermline, just enough to make it intresting but just enough to keep them safe, because the thing that makes his article nonsense is what happens if the newco get relegated , what does murdo suggest then, do we all say sorry we only ment a twenty pt deduction can we start again, ,,, think the guy should get a grip..........
I was gonna post same thing about the 30 point deduction but wiped it thinking his point was that stupid it wasnt even worth pointing out i liked murdo as a player true celtic man but since the sacking with wim he seems to have a wee chip on his shoulder or as any ex celt taken a job in the scottish media know what they need to say to keep it
I don't think he's got a chip on his shoulder, and in the articles he's written I've always found him to be straight down the line. He's simply expressing his opinion. He's wrong, but it is his opinion :)
All the media keep refering to rangers, as if you dont speak about it it wont happen, too late they are resigned to the annals of history
Touche' green j, tommybhoy
I agree with you gj, but in a perverse way will miss the old firm games. If the new rangers where allowed into spl I honestly feel the will be fighting relegation so the new old firm games will be like us playing partick thistle.
I dont agree with Murdo but he is entitled to his opinion. jj
Hi there, posted a couple of times but have never left name.
I lost all respect for Murdo, the night before the Celtic vrs Barca game in 2004 when we drew nothing each in the UEFA cup.
Sharing a hotel with the BBC reporting crew in Barcelona, we had a few drinks in the pub. In there we shared a bit of banter with Murdo and Chick Young.
I shared my opinion that I thought Tommy Burns team played better football than Jansens team.
Although I appreciate Wim and Murdo stopped the now defunct rangers from getting ten in a row.
I just don't think we have matched the style and flair that tommy had instilled in the team.
25 Jun 2012 12:12:43
Probably already discussed but I noticed that if the SPL remove Rangers Titles that puts Celtic at 15 in a row. In addition it gives trophies to Falkirk, QOS, Dundee, St Mirren, Dundee Utd and Motherwell. If I was a the Chairman of one of those teams I'd be hell bent on making sure the titles are removed as a PR exercise to bring back the fans. Just a thought.
I suggest you get an abacus. i can only manage 13????
There is not guarantee that if titles are removed that they will be distributed to the runner up.
Titles have been removed elsewhere and not reallocated. I would be fully in support of redistribution though as it is only fair.
Then there is also the issue of financial compensation which could be sought with or without redistribution.
An abacus? Is that the thing you put money in if you swear?
I want them stripped... but not too fussed about getting them we will win our own titles the proper way i know some people will say we did and fair point but i like to win titles and rub it into their faces wheres the fun in been handed them years later send them back to spl with the words corrupted by rangers engraved on them and put them on display at hampden for all to see
I think if they are redistributed we would then be ahead of them in title wins and if only to annoy the bears who have gone on about being the most successful club in the world it should be done
Ayr united want the league cup from 2002, hand it over ya tax dodging bams haha
The titles wont be stripped just because they r liquidated they will omly be stripped for dual contracts and tht might not even happen but they r in the history books and will stay tht unless duall contracts and if they r will not be redistruabed
25 Jun 2012 00:50:00
Happy Birthday Gaffer...........GBNL
{Ed007's Note - It is Scott Brown and Wanyama's birthday as well.
Great video.We've got your back Lenny for you are forever part of the Celtic family.You'll never walk alone.God bless Neil Lennon.
Happy birthday to the 3 Bhoys.Here's to you all and 2 in a row.
Jungle Bhoy.
Happy Birthday Neil, Scott & Vic :-) Mrs E