Celtic Rumours Archive October 19 2012

 

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19 Oct 2012 15:47:17
Tricky one tomorrow folks.St Mirren are on a decent run of home form and are playing some lovely stuff.As is the norm with away games these days it's the dreaded early kick off! I hate these as we never seem to wake up till the second half.Add on the travelling from the international week and it looks even more tricky.
Lenny will no doubt rest a few bodies as we have a wee game in midweek,but we will have to be at it from minute one against a well motivated and not with out talent team.I get the feeling the Boss might earn his wages in this one. Be interesting to see your thoughts on a team............. green jhedi

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I'd give tony watt a run out

Ska bhoy

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I've been hearing about injuries and players arriving back late so NL could probably go with : Forster : Matthews/Lustig : Ambrose : Mulgrew : Izzy : Mcgeough : Kayal : Wanyama : Ledley : Hooper : Miku / Lassad /Watt . I wouldn't risk Sammy , Forest, or Commons and keep them for Tuesday........DH

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Foster
Lustig
Wilson
Ambrose
Izzy
Kayal
Ledley
Mulgrew
McGeoch/Lassad
Hooper
Miku/ George samaras

Ian L

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19 Oct 2012 14:59:04
OH HAMPDEN IN THE SUN, CELTIC 7 V RANGERS 1

ON the Sunday morning of October 20, 1957, both sides of the Glasgow divide awoke with a hangover to beat them all.

The blue half of the city suffered the self-induced torment of sorrows far too colossal to be drowned by mere alcohol while those of a green persuasion cursed the Draconian licensing laws that curtailed, temporarily at least, their thirst to celebrate 90 minutes of unforgettable football from the previous day.

The Celtic history books don't necessarily record what the weather was like on that late Autumn Sabbath but we do know that conditions 24 hours earlier were very clement indeed - and not just meteorologically.

The very refrain of 'Oh, Hampden in the Sun', a pastiche of Harry Belafonte's contemporaneous chart hit Island In The Sun - a parody which is still sung to this day, continually reminds us of the glorious sunshine that beamed down upon Glasgow that day. Other tracks from the 'hit parade' of the time could just have well been appropriated for the satirical spoof treatment.

A popular crooner of the era who went by the name of Elvis Presley was hogging the charts with five entries and from these Party, Paralysed and All Shook Up summed up the day.

Equally there was Glasgow's Lonnie Donnegan with Puttin' On The Style, not to mention Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin On' by Jerry Lee Lewis. But perhaps the incredulity of what took place on October 19 was best encapsulated the Buddy Holly and the Crickets song that nestled at No.2 that week, That'll Be The Day.

However, the quirks of Rock 'n' Roll and Skiffle were dismissed in favour of Belafonte's Calypso capers and "Oh, Hampden in the Sun, Celtic seven Rangers one" became the enduring soundbite of one of the most remarkable days in Scottish football history.

Today, October 19, marks the 55th anniversary of the biggest winning margin ever recorded in a top-grade British cup final and the heroes from the October Revolution of 1957 have been acclaimed in book and in song but can those of us who were not around in 1957 fully appreciate what was achieved by the men in the hoops that day?

These days it's reasonable to assume that no side performing as champions or champions-elect should succumb to such a humiliating defeat by any of their domestic peers.

What makes the accomplishment of 1957 even more astonishing is that the previous season, Rangers as title-winners had finished 17 points above fifth-placed Celtic - that would be a 28-point difference under today's three-points-a-win situation.

And even with Hearts setting the early pace in '57/58 before romping away with the title, it was inconceivable that Celtic would embarrass their oldest rivals in such convincing fashion.

Those of us who grew up in the late 1960s and early 70s heard the songs and saw the 7-1 graffiti that was still freshly touched up each year but we wondered what all the fuss was about. After all, the Celtic we knew could beat ANY team 7-1.

But things were different in the '50s and only the lean years of the '90s could be used as a parallel to the lack of success and the small expectation of beating Rangers at all, never mind 7-1 in a cup final.

Sammy Wilson opened the scoring in the 23rd minute but amazingly Celtic could have been four up by that time and hit the woodwork three times in the first half before Neilly Mochan scored the second just before the break.
The half-time score of 2-0 warned no-one of what was to come and eight minutes after the break Billy McPhail hit the first of his hat-trick before Simpson pulled one back for the Ibrox side.

There was no stopping the Celtic torrent on the Rangers goal, though. McPhail got his second, Mochan did likewise five minutes later and McPhail completed his trio before Willie Fernie finished the rout with a penalty in the last minute.

Those who witnessed the demolition paid 2/- (10p) for entry to the terracing and 9d (4p) for the Boys' Gate but it's doubtful if a 13-year-old Jimmy Johnstone paid in.

His father took him to his first big game that day from Uddingston on a Celtic supporters' bus and it's a pound to a penny he got a lift-over (even as a Lisbon Lion 10 years later he would probably have got a lift-over).

And what was future Lisbon Lion captain Billy McNeill doing that day? Amazingly, there was still a full professional card on that day and the minor leagues were no different. The 17-year-old McNeill was on duty having been farmed out to Blantyre Vics and he didn't know the score until he bought an evening paper at Motherwell bus station!

So although, like McNeill, the vast majority of the crowd who turn up at Paradise every other week will not have seen the 7-1 game (especially since it mysteriously disappeared from the TV screens that night) we still have the opportunity to hail them in song

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Kudos mate.very well written.artybhoy

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A yankee came to Hampden Park a football match to see
Attracted by the magic of the Old Firm rivalry
Well, little did he know just what a treat he had in store
When watching Glasgow Celtic adding to the score

Piling on the agony
Puting on the style
And 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 scoring all the while
He'd never seen such football
He travelled many a mile
As watching Glasgow Celtic puting on the style

Whens the game about to start, oh when does it begin
Oh why have they not started, oh why they shooting in
Oh the game is well in progress Sir, he answered with a smile
Your watching Glasgow Celtic puting on the style

Piling on the agony
Puting on the style
And 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 scoring all the while
He'd never seen such football
He travelled many a mile
As watching Glasgow Celtic puting on the style

Hampden Park was crowded the fans began to roar
The Rangers fans were singing, with the scarves their fathers wore
But very soon they changed their tune, History it was set
When Willie Fernie got the ball and he stuck it in the net

Piling on the agony
Puting on the style
And 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 scoring all the while
He'd never seen such football
He travelled many a mile
As watching Glasgow Celtic puting on the style

Whos that boy out on the wing, the one in Green and White
The boys in Blue cant catch him, though they try with all their might
That nimble sone of Éireann, with all the football guile
It's Charles Patrick Tully puting on the style

Piling on the agony
Puting on the style
And 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 scoring all the while
He'd never seen such football
He travelled many a mile
As watching Glasgow Celtic puting on the style

Now the famous Celtic supporters, all want to go to heaven
To celebrate that League Cup win of 1957
That day will be remembered, for a game so nobley won
When Celtic met the Rangers and beat them 7-1

Piling on the agony
Puting on the style
And 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 scoring all the while
He'd never seen such football
He travelled many a mile
As watching Glasgow Celtic puting on the style

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If Sevco are unlucky enough to draw us in a cup this season then that result should be eclipsed and put to bed , if we dont score at least 8 against them i for one will be very disapointed .

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19 Oct 2012 13:18:01
On the anniversary of the most famous result in our glorious history spare a thought for the great Johnny Doyle.Johnny sadly passed away 31 years ago today,where does time go,and was a real Celtic man.In these days of overpaid and underworked footballers Johnny was the antithesis of all this.A player who would have given blood for the Celtic cause,i had the great honour of meeting him a couple of times and you just knew this was a fan in a strip.The fact that when we played rangers at Ibrokes Johnny entered wearing his Celtic scarf was not for show.He meant it. Rest In Peace John..............green jhedi

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19 Oct 2012 13:43:52
Green Jhedi I second that, Doyle was Celtic through and through, I had the pleasure of seeing him play and when he faced Rankers he sweated blood.
If he was rock the inside would read TIM. hail hail Timalloy

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He was ,is,my hero.a fan who played for his adoring fans.god bless you wee man.artybhoy

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Remember his goal against Real Madrid.....ma heid nearly exploded,couple of oldco fans up the back of the old rangers end got a bit of a slapping for being there and singing unsavoury songs...anyone remember that? algarvebhoy

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