Celtic Rumours Archive April 19 2012

19 Apr 2012 21:41:14
Well well then, sfa guilty of lying again, it's about time we take petition to uefa as fans, demanding an inquiry into the treatment of Celtic fc by the national association, we should insist on a move to another country in order to gain fairness and equality, we should also look at pulling out the Scottish cup too, hit them back harder, cheating b:stard/.(newbhoy)

Don't get caught up in the hype
it wasn't THE SFA!
it was 2 guys, with 'slightly' different versions of the same story, which was enough to get him off the full charge.
Neil was still out of order (not for the first time) take the blinkers off - he's embarrassing - even his own players were backing off him at the end of the Hearts game ffs!

As much as i'd love to find out that officials have lied, as of yet, they haven't. Two people submitting two different versions of what they witnessed doesn't necessarily mean anybody has lied. {Ed007's Note - Doesn't it? Ask Dougie McDonald about that. The part about swearing was what the entire case hinged on, the linesman said he did and the referee said he didn't, one of them was lying, no matter how you want to dress it up.}

Is that you being impartial Ed? {Ed007's Note - Just as impartial as you. I don't need to be impartial and what I have stated is facts. Are you being impartial Bill72? You post sensible stuff and sign your name, then post stuff from a totally different viewpoint without signing off, have you not got the minerals to stand by everything you say. You want a pat on the back for coming across as a decent Rangers fan, but your true colours show through on your anonymous posts.}

Well actually it could depend on who saw more could it be that the lineaments heard him swearing then the referee missed that part easy done but then again that's not how it works cuz it's against celtic {Ed007's Note - Well the SFA didn't accept either the referee'e or the linesman's version of events. Officials leave the field and go up the tunnel together, and it was the referee NL was accused of shouting and swearing at.}

BILL72

Of course someone was lying. The Linesman said that Lennon was swearing at the ref, and even inclused it in his report.

The ref said he didnt, and included this in his report

They are always going to take the refs side because it was he, who was APPARENTLY abused

The linesman was shown to have lied, and the Gaffer got off with a ludicrous charge


Samson

Just noticed 90% of the posts are unsigned

Just thought I'd mention it!

You know who I am?

19 Apr 2012 21:12:41
Evening Ed, is there any link to a story about the linesman lying. Cheers

St Mikey {Ed007's Note - You will need to wait for the official report, if it is released. Nobody is saying the linesman lied, the linesman and the referee reports had two different versions of events, the linesman said NL swore four times and the referee said he hadn't swore.}

Awrite Cheers Ed.

St Mikey {Ed007's Note - :-)

Ed, your reply is obviously legally based but its obvious someone is lying here. If you know some inside info can you share and let the masses know if we're to take this further. A yes or no will suffice (unless you want to private message!) {Ed007's Note - Anything I did know and could back it without incriminating anyone I would say. I tend not to get too involved in gossip, sorry. I have legal guidelines to follow.}

19 Apr 2012 20:36:06
In light of what i would call "tunnel gate", Lenny seems to be justified in his "it's personal" statement.The thought of a linesman blatantly lying must not be swept under the carpet.More interesting though is the news that Vincent Lunney had to take Mr Ogg,QC outside rather than blow the charge wide open.Is it any wonder Lenny wanted things done on the pitch last week? One way of stopping lies and cover up's is to do it in public.............green jhedi

19 Apr 2012 19:08:03
Hopefully it's brines that has lied and he gets the sack. Has there ever been a worse ref? And it's not that he is biased to any one team, ask rangers fans what they of brines.

He is just awful. How the hell did he get to become a top referee?!

Because he looks like Jean-Claude Van Damme.

Lies lies and more damn lies....and they
call us paranoid?
Do you not find it strange that in the fast few weeks we have a season jounalist from south of the border, on the outside looking in, can, with no affiliation to any of the Old firm, be shunned and ridiculed for asking pertinant questions of what is going on with out neighbours in the West,what is really needed is MORE journalists from the South joining their colleague to investigate the footballing establishment in this country opening them up for scrutiny, displaying their agenda that has been going on for DECADES and DECADES....lets have them open that can of worms and see how they come out of it, so WE all have a level playing field to run our National Sport. the Glasgow media Mafia are not brave enough to do it....

From a Rangers fan - I agree with the posting - Brines is by far the most inept and incompetent referee I've ever seen. Ther has been many dodgy decisions given by him against all times including us but by far the most rediculous decision was NOt giving Celtic that penalty against St. johnston last season when the defender not only handled the ball but also picked it up!! That decision itself should have consigned him to the dust bin. As for the other poster - I'm still trying to work out the Van Damm link - is it because Brines talks to his nipples? :) {Ed007's Note - I've been wondering that but it can't be. If his nipple spoke to him or vice versa then they would have had the same story today :-) You are bang on with your assessment of his refereeing though mate.}

It's good we've finally managed to agree on something Ed :) By the way despite our differing allegiencies this is a great site and it contains (in the main) a lot of sensible and poignant posts - well done guys! {Ed007's Note - Thanks mate.}

I am a celtic fan and i used to referee with common sense good humour and total fairness. if referees and assistant referees make mistakes like for example the scottish cup semi final against the sc#m of edinburgh they should be brought into hampden in front of john fleming and banned for 3 games and sent for more coaching on how to handle big time games. these referees are getting away scott free without anyone challenging them and if fleming is not doing his job sack him. there has been to many poor performances from these so called want to be referees.

Rangers fan - coming in peace
brines is and always was a person - even my wife, a fellow season ticket holder, knows what to expect from him when she sees his name in the programme.
However - I do not think he is dishonest - yes he is incompetent. But, we cannot continue to GET RID of referees - - theres no-one to replace them!!

bill72

Rangers fan again -
to the Celtic fan who was a referee -- i was also a referee, as far as the Hearts game goes -
1 hooper was offside
2 ball hit webster hip - not his hand
3 how many celtic players hand does the ball have to hit before a penalty is given?

In my opinion the referee had a good game - -e.g he could & should have sent off black & brown (& I'm not racist) both for persistent and in some cases violent fouls

bill72 {Ed007's Note - That's what I like to see Bill, a referee resorting to form and only looking at CFC things with a token gesture against the opposition :-)

Good grief man

i thought i would get replies from the dark side not ticked by the ED

consider me put in my place ;-))

19 Apr 2012 18:58:41
Can't believe the abuse that knob gave Pat, just as I was starting to pick up what he was saying lol. Ignore it mate, they do it to everybody, if you actually come on the sites for a laugh and banter you get attacked, happened to me on a different site last week. I find it funny how tough so many people are over a keyboard. What's taking so long with Lennon Ed, or have I missed something?
JFT96
Smithy {Ed007's Note - That's is the hearing finished Smithy. A 2 game ban for the League Cup Final and nothing for what happened at Ibrox. The referee and the linesman had contradicting reports and the case was 'riddled with lies'. It seems a bit less than the 17 match ban the media up here were predicting.}

Smithy, I said I was surprised wee Pat rose to it, usually he just laughs it off. Do you notice how these "brave" guys never have a name? Anyway liverpool for the cup......
ED007, 2 match ban, but they have Lennon up on other charges, any bets that any other bans will be 4 or 5 at a time, they are gunning for him, and sadly he is giving them the excuse. Timalloy

Are there any charges to answer for Semi Final match so much going on i missed that ....TTTS {Ed007's Note - There are other hearings due mate.}

19 Apr 2012 18:53:02
Brines and Muarry have lied ...lets see ssb wheel out dallas and co now... It is personal .....TTTS

19 Apr 2012 18:11:55
Just seen the Kuyt rumour below, and thought I'd give my opinion. I'm sure Ed002 said he would cost more than 3 million a couple of days ago so he wouldn't be only 1 million, but still a good price, he has a big wage, but he loves playing football and I'm sure he'd take a cut to play football regularly. The problem you would have is that there is intrest from Italy, Germany and his home town, boyhood club Feyernoord. He'd be an excellent signing though, he's a favourite of mine just for the effort he puts in and the amount of times he has scored in the big games. I'm sure he'd score frequently in Scotland, and be a great player for you if he did join.
JFT96
Smithy

Can't believe this guy can't get a game at Liverpool. Technically very good, scores important goals, can play in several positions and gives 100%. How players such as Henderson, Adam, Downing and Carroll are ahead of him, God only knows.

19 Apr 2012 18:03:53
I think it's absolutely disgusting that Joe Ledely has not been nominated for PLayer of the year! He's been fantastic for us this year! Mr Consistant and chipped in with important goals ( the shame, Rennes away etc) He really is our unsung hero! Plus Steve Davis are you kidding, even the great unwashed slaughtered his form this season! What do you think guys and ed??

Ice man {Ed007's Note - I thought Ledley would have been nominated as well.}

Total agree. Both Davis and Sheilds have been average at best this season. Also surprised Wanyama hasnt had a nomination in either award.
Daz the Hoopy

19 Apr 2012 15:53:59
I see people are posting with regards to potential signings/releases/sales for next season. Yakubu has been mentioned on here a few times.
Not for me - but what about a 31 year old, experienced internationalist. He can play up front, off the front 2 or wide. (would give sammy some competition). A proven track record of performing and scoring in BIG games - including the Champions League final. he would definitely help our young players in Europe. He is rumoured to be sold in the summer for only £1M.......Dirk Kuyt.
What do you think Ed? (or anyone else). I think he would be a cracking signing. He's got plenty of football left in him - Liverpool have not been using him too much - hence the low fee. kbt1978 {Ed007's Note - I like Kuyt but I doubt we would be able to afford his wages.}

Kuyt would be a great signing,depending on wages.im sure ed or smithy(lfc) will know this but he funds an orphanage abroad i think so money might not be his main driving force.interesting.........green jhedi {Ed007's Note - He is on �65k a week just now, and like Bellamy he will need to keep his wages at a level to support his charity work.}

I doubt we could afford his wages but I think that would be a really great signing who can make a difference in europe. wouldn't mind dermott subsidising his wages for a few years

A nice thought but there is a great danger in bringing in this type of player. I like Kuyt a lot "He loves this City" but I would rather bring in 3 new young guys who are good prospects than DK. Russel, Rhodes and I thought it ridiculous a few weeks ago but Daly has scored a stack of goals so why not if he is within our budget. Also I hear his philanthropic work only involves his time and he does not want to compete with Carnegie and demand a wage which could fund the public libraries of Scotland as some seem to.....Sopot Celt

They are decent players but no better than what we have. Rhodes would cost maybe �7M if a few bids went in (West Ham have been sniffing all season).
My point is we need that bit of experience and class that can rub off on a young side. You always need a blend and all due respect to John Daly and Johnny Russell - they won't provide it.
kbt1978

I see where you are coming from but FL had experience and so did DDublin and the younger ones Junhino and Gravesen and all were flops. I dont think you need experience as a striker in the way you need experience as a CB. You know where the net is or you dont. I do agree we need a bit of experience in the side its just that we have a poor history of bringing in guys with experience who are goalscorers and I think as I have said that experience is better served at the back. I am also a great believer in developing young players and giving them a chance...look at Hooper and FF and Wanyama. I also agree 7m is far too much for Rhodes with that sort of money you could pick up a top man from the Bundisliga. We may lose Hooper so he is one we have to replace and I think there will also be a few surprise movers out of the club. (no proof just my hunch). Sopot Celt. PS IMHO Daly and Russel are underrated.

19 Apr 2012 14:46:15
Listening to andy wa*er last night ripping into joe ledley last night about tweeting leg gash, then said he had 90mins to sort any player out on the park, what did this little man mean? i liked him when he played for us although shouldnt have had the second chance in 94 to resign for us. I for one would not let the little c back near our door even for work with this scottish media. ,..,.,.,kbarry

19 Apr 2012 00:34:55
Tune of : Nasty Little Green Men by Classix Nouveaux .

There's been a sighting in dear old Govan ,
They've been seen around Ibrox too ,
Un identified men in black suits ,
So they're telling us on the news .

Oh so many are speculating ,
Giving so much fuel to our "Scribes" ,
If those Taxmen really landed ,
Well now , how would it change your lives ?

Will they be , nasty little Taxmen ?
Will they be , friend or enemy ?
Will they be , there to take your money ?
Will they be , just like you and me ?

Would the SFA choose to warn us ?
If the truth couldn't be denied ,
Though Salmond says he's seen them ,
We know yous will just run and hide ,

While so many are speculating ,
Giving so much fuel to our "Scribes"
When these Taxmen are really landing ,
Well now , how will it change your lives ?

Will they be , nasty little Taxmen ?
Will they be , friend or enemy ?
Will they be , there to grab you're money ?
Will they be , just like you and me ?

Will they be , like boring old accountants ?
Will they be , like the burd off Countdown on TV ?
Will they be , all over yous like the measles ?
Or will they be , just like you and me ? Hey
Drewzybhoy