Celtic Rumours Archive August 17 2012

17 Aug 2012 20:36:56
Rhodes left out of the Huddersfield squad for their game tonight - interest in him must be getting serious whether it's from us or a club down south. Maybe our injury list is forcing the board's hand into making a proper move?

LondonBhoy

Rhodes was injured for the game tonight

Rhodes just back after scotland game so cant see him being fit enough. would love to see him at celtic but hudersfield want �8m and we wont spend more than a few million on any one player

Why buy 3 diddy strikers for �2m each if we can get one good one for �4 or �5m? We're not talking about a Van Persie or a Kaka here..�5m would get him signed

Celtic will have a bid for rhodes

Saturday gossip reports blackburn have increased their offer for rhodes stef1967

17 Aug 2012 19:16:50
Celtic defender Josh Thompson will on Monday join Portsmouth on a six-month loan, Sly Spurts sources understand.

The 21-year-old centre-back has been training with the League One club but they could not quite agree a deal in time for Saturday's first game of the season against Bournemouth.

Financially-stricken Portsmouth had previously been under a transfer embargo after going into administration but they are now free to sign players.

Ten new faces arrived at Fratton Park on Thursday and Thompson will at the beginning of next week also move to the South Coast.

The former England Under 19 international joined Celtic back in 2009 from Stockport County for £300,000 and he has one year left on his current contract.

Thompson ended last season at Wembley on loan with Johnstone's Paint Trophy winners Chesterfield after starting the campaign with Championship outfit Peterborough United.

Jungle Bhoy.

I thought he was decent when he had a run in the first team even scored a few times i hope we give him a new contract

Decent player but with our defence should be pushing for 1st team. Maybe should let him go rather than loan

We'll never know if he would have been a good player cos Mowbray was forced to throw him in far too early and it's Been Detrimental to his development. Horror show in our 4-4 draw with Aberdeen the the mother of all horror shows with his other 10 team mates against Ross County in the cup semi's. His confidence was shattered before he even got going. He never hid though so fair play to him for that. Good luck to the lad wherever he ends up.

Was played on his weaker side to accomodate mcmanus and odea but when played on his better foot played out of his skin for such a young lad

17 Aug 2012 17:44:32
Hi Ed have you heard anything about paddy McCourt going to Hibs? {Ed007's Note - No sorry. The only interest I know of is from the Championship, mainly Blackpool who have made a bid of around £600k which hasn't been accepted or rejected yet, and from the MLS.}

Serious question? Why do Celtic fans always add an h. E.g bhoys and ghirls? Sorry for my ignorance?

Dont know much about why or when Celtic were started to be reffered to as 'The Bhoys' but Bhoys or b'hoys was a 19th century american slang word for Irish immigrants which is maybe why it came about due to our heritage. The 'h' in ghirls is obviously just an add on to refer to our good ladies.

Mikey Bhoy

Did some research and found a couple of references first was a postcard from an Irishman just after 1888 when he described Celtic as "the bould bhoys" but even before this as Mikey Bhoy says it was a slang term used in america to describe Irish men and was not meant to be a compliment.
Also later on people used the term Timalloys said quickly rhymes with Bhoys
hope this helps Timalloy (historian)

17 Aug 2012 13:38:55
Huddersfield want £8m for Jordan Rhodes. I'm sorry but that is just far too much for someone like him. He may score tons of goals but that is just them being cheeky. Celtic = far bigger club than Huddersfield. Being priced out of a quality player and teams like Fulham etc. are prepared to bid that sort of money for him! Ridiculous.

I agree this is too much but I think this is just paper talk.

If we are looking for 7m for KI why then not 8M for Rhodes. Most people agree Rhodes is/ will be money and goals in the bank. Goal scorers are expensive and Huddersfield have discounted him to 8M due to his inexperience. I agree its a huge sum but that is the world we live in and he has massive potential. Sopot Celt

Pretty much right on all counts, expect for the fact that Huddersfield can ask for how ever much they want for Rhodes, seeing as they don't need the money, and Jordan is happy to stay. He has never even hinted that he's wanted to play anywhere else this season. Don't see why people can't get that as the reason for the high price into their heads

No one will pay 8mil for him thats a fact. thats just crazy, i would say 5mil bid would be accepted if someone offers it.

Celticthomas

Hooper never scored as many last season and we would want similar amount for him.. so no they are not being cheeky. i say pay what they want . he is worth that .. i mean wolves have turned down �13 m for fletcher and he is not as good as rhodes ..shamrock

Are Celtic as big a club as you think then if they cant afford their man? 8million is a lot but Huddersfield have the right to make money from him as they grew his talent.

No one will spend 8 mill on him,if they did,they will go in to an asylum.He has done nothing yet....3 mill max,and thats a gamble... {Ed007's Note - At �8 million plus VAT it would take the deal up to �9.6 million, include agent fees etc and the price will be over �10 million not including the player's signing on fee and wages nobody is going to spend that on a League 1 player.}

Shamrock 100% disagree FLETCHER scored 12 EPL GOALS with a very poor team,bet RHODES WOULDNT HAVE GOT THAT,FLETCHER IS SO UNDER ESTIMATED UP HERE ITS SO SAD, WE CANT SEE THE WOOD FOR THE TREES,ALSO HOOPER HAS SCORED AT A HIGHER LEVEL THAN RHODES. I LIKE RHODES BUT WE REALLY ARE GOING OVERBOARD....jimthetim

�6m (�4m upfront & �2m after promotion) was offered by West Ham in January, why would Huddersfield accept anything below the minimum price when they don't need to sell him {Ed007's Note - West Ham did not offer that. Karen Brady leaked the story to appease the West Ham fans, just like their attempt to buy Jelavic. West Ham have been struggling financially for years and still are.}

In the English market, that figure is realistic for a lad with an abundance of goals and plenty potential. Levein should be on a bung for upping his price after Wednesday - not too mention pricing him out of our budget. Even if we do sell Ki for a similar fee We won't spend it on one player and the frustrating thing is we were watching Rhodes over a year ago and as usual farted about and ended up signing Bangura.

Jungle Jim

Agree with you jimthetim Fletcher is proven it at a team like wolves. Thats why he will get a move back to the prem and right into a starting lineup. Rhodes will take some time to develop and 8 miliion is a big gamble for someone who has not played at that high a level. Boy seems to be able to score tho and am sure he will get a chance somewhere. Would like it to be at Celtic but not for 8 million. Where ever he goes all the best and hope he keeps doing it for Scotland

Skooter

Wouldn't pay any more than 3million for him

Rhodes scored 40 in a very poor team.. shamrock

Like Michael laudrup said on Tuesday "there is no value in the English Market" way over valued. Keep him. Let John parks unearth another gem.

Sunderland signed wickman for 8 mil rising to 11. U have to imagine someone in the epl will pay that money for rhodes

If you can't afford to shop in M&S, go to Aldi!

Rhodes is worth what Huddersfield set as his price. If Celtic think that he is not worth it then OK, look elsewhere. Someone in EPL will pay it, if not now, then at Christmas-but by then the fee could be higher!

{Ed007's Note - At �8 million plus VAT it would take the deal up to �9.6 million, include agent fees etc and the price will be over �10 million not including the player's signing on fee and wages nobody is going to spend that on a League 1 player.}

Why lie ? Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain {Ed007's Note - Lie about what? AOC's total fee including add ons is �15 million, not his initial fee and the deal is all structured how successful Arsenal are and his own personal success.}

Still possible to sell on for more, that is the risk in Scotland, it's a formality your value soars in england.

17 Aug 2012 13:07:50
ED how many over 21's are clubs allowed in SPL3 ? I thought it was 20 but am unsure .

Paddy Malarkey {Ed007's Note - A club shall be permitted to register, at any one time, up to a maximum of 22 players, who have reached the age of 21 years on 1st January of the appropriate year. The maximum number of 22 players includes players registered by means of a temporary transfer. Additional players may be registered by a club, however such players must be under 21 years of age on 1st January of the appropriate year.}

So how many then fk sake ye sound like a judge,rembur ed pashunce is a caird game {Ed007's Note - Read it again.....}

17 Aug 2012 11:47:22
Celtic are looking at a loan deal for 6'5 Nikola Zigic but his 60k a week wage could prove to be a stumbling block.

Source: One of the rags, can't remember which one.

Time to give tony watt a run in the team

Ska bhoy

Aye cause Tony Watts is Champions League level... Also wouldn't take Zigic... waste of money and no one will touch him if he is on that money.

TW is not near first team footbal yet. Give him another year or two.

Linnie88

He's dire man

The biggest stumbling block is that he's a terrible football player. Please god NO!!
CBP

Lets be honest bhoys even if we make the champions league even if we spend 7 or 8 mill on a ch,cf,we will still struggle so give the kids a go TW,MF,DMC,PT,Maybe not all at same time but.............jimthetim...

17 Aug 2012 08:53:32
Checking over the posts over the last few days, there seems to be a lot of panicking going on. There are a few facts that stare us squarely in the face.
1. Like it or lump it, we will have a shortfall of domestic cash this year because Sevconians have dropped out of the league. Old firm game revenues are gone and tv money will be significantly lower.
2. We are a big fish in a small pond, attracting top class footballers is difficult, even with the promise of European football.
3. Money will, and always will talk for most players. It is a short career after all, as they say and we can't compete on wages, that's the truth of the matter.
4. Celtic, although we all love our football club, at the end of the day is a business and PL is a businessman. He has to be showing a control on our finances, as well as supporting NL and the team. This is a double edged sword, get it wrong and we could be the next Sevconians.
I've no doubt Lenny will be given some money to play with, and I'm also under no doubt there are deals in place. How we fare against Helsingborg will determine how we go forward. Remember, we also have a few years to get this right due to the circumstances.
Personally, I feel the Helsingborg ties are the biggest challenge we have had for years. Getting through these games will be the maker or breaker.
On another note, I am emailing ITV today to insist Clive Tyldesley and Andy "apples and pears" Townsend don't commentate on the game next week!

BigRab

Agree 100%. we have to control our finances. I would love to see players signing for big fees but look at what we have done for little money. I have loved seeing players coming in and turning into top drawer footballers. This is what we need to keep doing.

BigRab:- Always watch ITV with the mute button on you'll find you'll enjoy it better. As for analysis you'll probably find your wife/partner/kids/dog/cat will provide more insight to the game than Andy Townsend.
Allybhoy

Fair enough but we have saved in the region of 100k a week on wages with the players who have been released. We could have at least brought in a decent CB on loan. We are going into a massive tie with a number of players either injured or carrying knocks.
It's okay to reduce the size of the squad but you still have to ensure that the squad is large enough to deal with the number of competitive games coming up. Although the game against Real Madrid brought us �1m & exposure to the US market, if we crash out of the Champions League due to the number of injuries from that game would we say it was worth it?

AldoBhoy

I like Townsend and he has always said good things about our club. The other one a do agree with he is a clown! F.S

As a fan of Celtic for over 50years the lack of spending when we have had a chance to move forward is frightening,we do not want to be the next Rangers but over the years the money generated through players being sold has never been spent ie Dalglish ,Nicholas the list is endless.Just for once push the boat out get Rhodes!!

Spending five or six million won't put us in the old Co position for God sakes folks think about it!

If they are scaling down football operations due to old Co, then the season book and ticket prices should be scaled down also.

The board are very much having their cake and eating it too.

Pathetic people seem to think being shortchanged is acceptable

Jamie Mac(shaking his head)

BARRY THE JANNY .... totally agree with aldo money must be spent and players must be brought in to bolster the squad afterall the Boss did say that he was going to trim the squad for quality signings . I do think we WILL spend but only at the right price with a future sell on value this is the way ahead... u agree

Why does everyone think that the Fraudsters F.C. will cost us money. The game which replaces the ex old firm game, I.e. Hearts, Aberdeeen or Dundee United should be a sell out as near as makes no difference. We will spend less on policing and stewards, we will not require a massive empty security gap and most of all, we will not have a giant bill for vandalism. The difference in T.V. Money is negligible and we are guaranteed Euro cash for at least four years. So stop greeting and let's get on with it.
C'mon The Hoops
Jimbho

Jamie mac, agree with you, fed up with the penny pinching and ending up with panic buys murphy bangura and several others, we have shifted �100k a week from wage bill and about to sell ki and maybe big box, and possibly make group stages of CL without a decent center back and another striker, hoping to pick them up after the helsingborg game , a shambles, Peter lawell you will start a mass exodus if you penny pinch this time , no more fletcher carry ons, sign players that will improve the team , not squad players , rant over

P*sh we deserve a player or two its time the board gave something back

17 Aug 2012 00:25:01
I honestly don't think we will be waiting last minute to buy sh#t#. I think if we qualify for champs league we will sign Rhodes! The boys a star in the making and seems down to earth, the money we could make off this bhoy could be frightening! I also read on news now that we have inquired for klasnic of birmingham is that the Europa league loan?
I really do hope we sign Rhodes could be a new era if a cb or 2 as well.

Brian

It is Zigic from Birmingham on loan apparently....and they are saying he is still on �60'000 a week at Birmingham! so there could be a problem with his wages.

Hail Hail everybody!

So much rests on qualifying for the CL. I'm sure if we do then Rhodes will be looked at further but at what price? I'm hearing 6m which I'm not sure is for that much money the type of player we need.

Thoughts?

richybhoy

Sorry I meant zigic from Birmingham

Brian

Klasnic is from Bolton

If it ends up 6m we should pay the boy is the real deal a super star in the making

Brian