Celtic Rumours Archive April 16 2012

 

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16 Apr 2012 22:12:56
Rangers won on penalties tonight I see you's have stopped asking so I thought I'd let you's know
NTYABOW

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I know 4-2..congratulations :-) Mrs E

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Thank you Mrs E I think we can have a long happy relationship together oh sorry I keep forgetting this isn't a dating website
NTYABOW

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I'm sure you can have a long happy relationship with anyone on here...if you tell us what your name means ? Mrs E

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I am sorry Mrs E that is for me & ED007 eyes only, I am so sorry as I think we could have been good together but don't worry it is not offensive in anyway just as ED007 said about it 'you cheeky b**tard'
NTYABOW

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You mean the rangers brats mate not rangers,,.,,.,kbarry

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It stands for Nothing To Yell About But Our Weans

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Well done to the young Gers. Was it much of a game?

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Thats great news on "Rangers" winning. Did they get the bus home after the game? Since they cant afford tax's ! SMCCIABFT (ps, cant say what the name means) {Ed007's Note - Well you can tell me what it stands for at least, I need to be careful that nothing classed offensive or illegal is posted.}

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That will be the rangers first team next season

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16 Apr 2012 22:09:46
ED007, apparently the Big Tax Case
has been announced......
http://yfrog.com/mgf2tz
Lol Timalloy

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Priceless

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16 Apr 2012 21:51:00
Hi Ed
I was talking to a mate the other day and I mentioned that we had signed a CB on a pre contract.
I cant mind his name or if I am actually right ?

any idea
Cheers Cprs1 {Ed007's Note - It is Jaroslaw Fojut from Slask Wroclaw.}

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You're kidding Ed - surely not THE Jaroslaw Fojut!! {Ed007's Note - No not him, the other one.}

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Hes actually half decent and better than Loovens and KW but that may not be saying much!

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16 Apr 2012 21:47:08
Wings over Scotland "The newco would NOT BE eligible for the licence to play in the SPL for at least 3 years .Futhermore it is plainly and explicitly forbidden under SFA rules for such a license to be transferred from 1 legal entity (rangers fc ) to another (newco)" ..... TTTS

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What a load of tosh, have you not heard that new rules are going to put in place so that newco will be in SPL. {Ed007's Note - Is there any mention of a UEFA licence in the proposed new rules?}

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Send them to the 3rd division and have them worm their way back up to the SPL if they can. If they get let back in to the SPL under a new name we will be the laughing stock of world football. Only in Scotland could this happen.

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16 Apr 2012 21:39:22
It now seems that to play in the SPL you require an UEFA licence whether or not you play in Europe ...Have you heard that ED ... If so it throws a whole n ew light on the situ ....TTTS {Ed007's Note - I thought that was an old rule along with them having to be a member of the SFA for three years. It could well still be a ruling.}

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16 Apr 2012 21:29:15
Hi Ed
I've just listened to the Alex Thomson interview through the link that was posted, was it just me or did Hugh keevins sound like he was going to greet? haha he was ripped a new wan. I think if the guy had the slightest bit of integrity he would hand his resignation in 1st thing in the morning because he was quite clearly shown up for what he is..... a sh##e journo! As for the other journo, all he did was praise Alex and every other journo he knew as he didn't have the intelligence to try and back up some of the statements and non-truths these wallopers have been feeding out over the last few weeks / months.

I'm looking forward to seeing the name of the so called hard man.... He's going to jail and wont work as a journo when he gets out.

On another note with regards the defeat yesterday, I'm still fuming at the result but what's done is done. I do however feel that we need to get rid of 6-8 players if not more, mainly fringe players but the likes of Ki who in my opinion isn't suited to the SPL should be sold should a decent bid be tabled. I see why we have a youthful team but a bit more experience is required, maybe 3 seasoned pros, not too old but older and more experienced than what we have, 1 for each of the 3 outfield departments paid for by the freeing up of wages from the ones that are moved on.

What's your thoughts Ed?
HH
pfb79 {Ed007's Note - I have said before about Ki mate. I would sell him and use the money towards buying an experienced CB and a more physical CF.}

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16 Apr 2012 21:26:02
Just listened to Alex Thompson on ssb, the guy is top notch, keevins was as quiet as a mouse. Uefa have got to go the full road with all goings on at rankers and at the sfa or should that be gfa (give f@£! all) back to our own affairs, Lenny will have learnt a lot from this season and will do even better next term with a bit of experience in the side.
"newbhoy"

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Did uefa not state recently that it wa an internal matter for the sfa to deal with at rangera. Im sure it was on bbc recently? {Ed007's Note - Yes but UEFA are looking at the SFA amongst others roles in it all, and the way the SFA handle the situation.}

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16 Apr 2012 21:24:58
Just been searching to find the u17 score and ended up on Rangersmedia.co.uk and although I'm not 100 % sure i think that is directly connected to Rangers correct me if I'm wrong. Probably shouldn't be surprised but post at the top was. And the persons are in the broomloan front. Are they seriously letting people post that sh*te?

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The word was ta*gs. ed must have changed it cos it wasn't disguised. {Ed007's Note - Not me mate? Some words are automatically changed by the filters (to save us time in doing it) but that isn't one that is blocked. Believe me, I get called it enough times throughout the day :-)

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Seen it mate the derogatory word they used was T*&ge. and I'm not surprised tbh. couldn't tell u for sure if that is directly connected to the hectors.

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16 Apr 2012 21:09:55
And the Blue Knight trot of into the night ......."We dont do walking away" ....TTTS

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The Blue Knights are walking away because Ticketus are looking to cut a CVA deal with Bill Ng :0)

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If you the read the statement it states

We are letting bill ng as his offer is the best interest of the club , if any deal can't be made with him , blue knights will take over
Read before commenting

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16 Apr 2012 20:56:24
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17733762

The Sfa supposedly considering a new national league to replace the Spl and Sfl. Whats peoples thoughts on this ? Is it just the good people of the Sfa trying to save the pigs bacon ? Could this be Celtics opportunity for pastures new ?

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Out of curiousity, what new pastures would Celtic go to? Don't go down the English route again. It's not going to happen.

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No that isnt the reason they are wonting to change it they wont to change it beause the spl is to small a league and there in talks for ours leagues to join the english league and turn it into the brittish league and befroe you say that wont happen regulations state you cant let 1 nation in and not let another in

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Could this in any way be connected to the rumour that SPL rules require all teams to have a Uefa license to compete in the premier league? Not sure if I've been picking this up right but what I hear is that rangers* haven't qualified for a Uefa license and it is too late for any newco to get a Uefa license therefore SPL would be breaking it's own rules if either form were to play in the SPL next year. {Ed007's Note - I answered elsewhere, that was/is a rule. I thought it was an old one.}

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We should have one governing body for all football.

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16 Apr 2012 20:54:44
Oh dear.it seems the blue knights do walking away.liquidation another wee step closer.artybhoy

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16 Apr 2012 20:40:11
is there any radio/tv/internet coverage of the game tonight?
nevis

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16 Apr 2012 20:37:21
The Blue Knights are Walking away

Source Hearld jurno on Twitter

Lubo25

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What does it say Lubo mate dont go onto t**tter.MACCA

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They have released a statement on RFC(IA) webpage .TBK have walked away bud

Lubo25

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16 Apr 2012 20:13:11
does anyone have a link to thomson on the clyde 1 phone in tonight? {Ed007's Note - Here it is :

soundcloud.com/jinkylarsson/alex-thomson-on-clyd

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16 Apr 2012 20:19:52
Anyone know how the u17s are getting on tonight in the cup final vs the junior hectors? {Ed007's Note - 1-1 so far.}

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Aye got celts beat 4.2 pens , 1.1 after 90mins

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16 Apr 2012 20:05:47
A well done to Alex Thomson tonight me thinks. They didnt have a response for him there at all, and he didnt even get into anything too much. Shows what a modecum of intelligence can do for you with these radio bampots.

Anyways, not why i was posting really.

Wanted to say about yesterday it was a game we had ample oppertunity to win. Yes we had a poor poor decision, but to be fair our goal was result of a dodgy decision too. Just appears we tend to have more against than for. No conspiracy, just poor officials throughout.

Anyways enough wallowing it what could have been again. Just read that Rangers Media 'Article' (using that loosley there) to steal a catchphrase.... really? .... Really? ... really??. There is nothing in that entire article the constitutes a salient, intelligent and well put though (yes very like my posts i know). Can people who agree with this not realise the idea of guilty by association? They let their club be ran by charlitans whilst taking the all is well just follow on line for years for we are Rangers and all is rosey. Im sorry but all is not rosey... fa from it. There is no moral arguement here at all. Only a responsibility arguement and the cluub as a whole is responsible for its actions. Its almost like running up a huge leccy bill and then moving and claiming your not paying it cos you dont live there anymore its still your responsibility and in the case of the club the debts are the responsibility of the club. And if you support that club you are partly responsiblr to seek that said club pays its dues and fulfills its financial responsibility to everyone it needs too. Im sorry but the bigger boys done it and ran away arguement is really getting on my proverbial breasts.

Retrospective punishment is fine by me if after initial punishment is issued and further evidence arises which was not available at the time which enforces a change in rules and regs, would have no arguement even if it was Celtic or anyone else. If punishment for the crime wasnt severe enough then yes more action is needed, and tougher legislation needs put in place to discourage others going down the same path.

Ok im heading off on a right rant. I think thatl do for now. Evening all.

Evinguu {Ed007's Note - Evening Evinguu.}

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Evening You, Evinguu good post tonight I agree with it all ( send fiver in brown envelope) I hope someone is monitoring Rangers media and perhaps a wee libel case looming...
All this talk of "punishing us twice" nonsense punishment must fir the crime..
If we are to believe everything we are reading there are so many "crimes" so a punishment for every crime sounds good.
Going back to Rangers media, I see they have used a former player's name, I bet he is happy about that....
But an enjoyable evening so far, now come on our Celtic U17's.. Timmy aloy

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Its nothing like runnin up a leccy bill? The fans paid for their season tickets etc etc. not the fans fault nor the fans responsibilty to pay back the debt. It is the clubs responsibilty. Im sick to the proverbial breats of celtic fans trying to blame the mess on the fans rather than the real criminals - the rangera board who authorised the dodgy dealings {Ed007's Note - Does that mean you are not supporting your club then? What happened to backing your club through thick and thin. You can't just support your team when the going is good, and Rangers fans were warned ten years ago about this. Don't just pass the buck and blame everyone else, grow a pair and either support your club or don't. I am sure real Rangers fans don't need part timers like you at this time. They will be relying on true fans who will do what they can, face facts and try to help. You went along for the ride but now you want out at the first sign of crashing.}

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Please read that post again and take it in, i thought it was relativley easy to grasp that im not saying they are fully responsible, Im just saying they are responsible to aid the club as a business to sort the mess out and get people in who can make sure the club pay what its due? is that too much to ask? obviously it is going by most rangers fans opions i see.

The leccy analogy does kind of ring true if you think about it new owners blaiming old owners etc etc tec, it is a weakish analogy but holds some truth. I thought that was simple to see.. obviously not... do i really need to go into this to explain?


Wait a minute..... why am i responding, I think Ed got these points with his response to you.

I will say one thing in your defence, as its something that bugs me on this site, if you disagree youve said so and started a conversation. Not just hit disagree for the sake of it! So i dip my hat to you there. And also can see that arguement that the fans are not entirley to blaim. However as supporters of said club, you supported said club through these times of well cheating. Therefor you have the responsibility to help and ensure your club goes about its business in the correct manner by helping in any way possible they pay what they owe.... is that a clearer point? ,

I just feel with the calls for what appears to be a majority of fans shouting for everyone else to go down the pan or boycott them because they wanted their money back and because they had the gaull to complain. This is what i was aluding to (in a roundabout way .. yes) and where there is some fan responsibility in how their club is ran. Same for how people have a responsibility for how their elected governments are run, they let them in they have to deal with the flak that may come afterwards!

Ok i think im making a point here.... probably not, im fair going off on tangents in my postins this evening!!

Ed you were talking to smithy about changes to the site, could it not be mandatory to leave a reply if you choose agree or disagree, at least force folk to say why and force some constructive criticism of posts etc. Although constructive arguement is hard on here sometimes as im sure you will know lol.

Evinguu {Ed007's Note - I hate those buttons with a vengeance, they really serve no purpose and they always cause chaos at times of important and tragic events. Between sick fans just disagreeing to other wee wallopers doing it to make other clubs fans look bad. I take absolutely no notice of them, look at them like posts that don't have a name, they are insignificant and not really worth bothering about. It makes the keyboard bashers and gilfnards feel happy I guess.}

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Oh i aghree Ed. Just think if you are happy to press a button as to why you disagree (moreso than agree) with a point on what is a forum then at least say why!, Its what i will do if i agree or disagree with a point enough to say wether i agree or not.

And as for the touchy subjects like deaths etc, it is just poor taste and some idiot wanting a rise. Which is just pathetic without going off on too much of a tangent!

Evinguu

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16 Apr 2012 19:59:59
Are people randomly forming Rangers New Companys?
Look at these
RANGERS (2012) LTD
40 HUNTER STREET
SHOTS
SCOTLAND
ML7 4BS
Company No. SC418962 8/03/2012

RANGERS FOOTBALL CLUB OF GLASGOW LTD
63 KENMORE TERRACE
KIRKCALDY
SCOTLAND
KY2 6EN
Company No. SC417353 20/02/2012

Hee hee clever little monkeys
Nevis {Ed007's Note - There are loads of names already been used up.}

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16 Apr 2012 19:49:20
Would just like to congratulate Mr Thompson,Hugh Keevins just got his arse handed to him in a handbag,and dont get me started on the journo who sent him an email calling him Timmy Thompson,good to see Mr Thompson giving an apology to the Celtic fans,for the use of this bigoted remark,and the guy from Larkhall we havent learned anything new from Mr Thompson, what about the letters from Mr Bain about using EBT scheme for personal gain(e oh dont really know whit yer on aboot lol) MACCA {Ed007's Note - Did anyone else get the impression that the guy from 'Larkhall' was reading what he was saying?}

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Yeah ed got that impression too,he had the questions but somebody forgot to give him the answers lol MACCA

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Ed that guy didnt sound like he could read dude. Was bloody hilarious! IM struggling to decide if the guy who hasnt played Fifa since febuary or him was more dopey!

MACCA - I think mr Keevins arse was taken, gift wrapped, fedexed round the planet and hand delivered by a virgin on a floating unicorn back to him tonight. He has no response to what was asked of him. Also the other one (name evades me) Aye but Craig Whyte has gone to a lot of trouble to hide his info on google so i couldnt find anything out!! awww diddums. lmao at the scottish press tonight.

Evinguu

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ED007 I doubt there are many in larkhall who CAN READ! (ouch) Timmy aloy {Ed007's Note - My mammy is from Larkhall!!!! In saying that some of my cousins are miles out. One of them has held down the same job for 31 years this year though. They were all so proud when he got that paper run all those years ago!!!.}

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Ed a cousin eh???

is that not how you have so much time to edit this site ? :)

Evinguu {Ed007's Note - My old man wouldn't let me have a paper run when I was young mate. He wouldn't have me delivering The S*n.}

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Ahh glad to hear that your old man is a man of scruples and moral high standing!

There was no such thing as a paper round in Dundee when I was wee, not enough people able to read.. unless it said Addidas, Kappa, Elisse or the sporty chicken... oh and Naf NAf.

Evinguu {Ed007's Note - It was always a 'Tory rag' to him but after the miner's strike he wouldn't let it in the house or even in any the businesses he owned. It would be ideal if Scotland took it's lead from Liverpool and had a blanket ban on buying it. They would soon get the message.}

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16 Apr 2012 19:39:28
What happened on radio clyde with Alex Thompson tonight? Didn't get to hear it? {Ed007's Note - Thomson showed Scottish journalists up for what they are, useless.}

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16 Apr 2012 23:39:55
this is the address for the show - http://soundcloud.com/jinkylarsson/alex-thomson-on-clyd

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16 Apr 2012 19:35:01
AN HONEST MAN SPEAKS

ED007 just listened to Alex ("Timmy") Thomson on Clyde. What a refreshing guy he is poor old Hugh was almost crying. Presenter was bricking himself in case he named journalist live on clyde, but our Alex is too clever for that..

He said he has another tweet from same journalist calling him "Timmy" Thomson and threatening to give him a good old "presbyterian" thumping...
If this is ture how stupid is this journalist admitting it in writing and giving the police an easy investigation.. but then we "Tims" already know most journalists up here are brain dead to go with their "Zombie" (ED007's nephew copyright) football club. The gift that keeps giving, thank you
"Timmy" Thomson for cheering us "Tims" up after yesterday Timalloy

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The tweet was from a fake twitter account. It wasnt from the actual journo that he accused.

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Only time will tell. Can't actually believe you are trying to defend these actions.

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16 Apr 2012 19:34:05
Just listened to Radio Snyde for the first time in years as Alex Thomson was on.

The Snyde team were Gerry McCulloch, Hugh Keevins and Rodger Hannah.

Alex Thomson would not name the journalist who threatened him but did confirm that the journalist tweeted him and called him Timmy Thomson and said that he was going to get a good Presbyterian slap. Thomson has reported the matter to Stratchclyde Police.

Given the documentary evidence from the tweet, then the matter is going to end up in court, potentially with a sectarian charge.

The amount of squirming that Keevins and Hannah were doing was unbelievable and they were shown up for the muppets they are.

We were they trearted to Davy (I think it was) from Larkhall. Well, this was just the icing on the cake. A thicker individual you just could not get and he made a total @rse of himself. He claimed that Thomson had not made him aware of anything that the Scottish media had not reported first. Thomson then asked him if he had been aware that Martin Bain had an EBT in the sum of £100k, had asked for further money through an EBT and had ordered documents to be shredded. Poor Davy couldn't give a proper answer and Thomson told him "I think the answer you're looking for is "No"." Absolutely hillarious.

Can't wait for the courtcase.

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Heard it , was the funniest thing ever, Keevins and Hannah sh4t their pants , Alex Thompson proper journalist not like the toy town loyalist up here. {Ed007's Note - I am just waiting on getting a link to it and I will post it mate. My secretary is getting on a bit now so you need to be patient with her.}

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No chance of a sectarian charge lol. Getting called a tim isnt sectarian (thai tims?)

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16 Apr 2012 19:30:31
Alex thomson just ripped keevins a new wan

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16 Apr 2012 19:28:13
Wow! just listened to Keevins and Baillie getting shredded by Alex Thomson,it's like Brechin v Barca! Surely this is the end for these chancers,shame Guidi was missing after calling a well respected proper journalist a liar.Why not get guidi on the phone if he was not on tonight?I Reckon the hard man doing the threatening is good ********,.Lovely,i did enjoy that............green jhedi {Ed007's Note - I need to watch people assuming or guessing who it was who threatened him now that it is a police matter mate.}

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16 apr 2012 17:59:29
pay at he gate tonite at ibrox wonder who is counting the money more importantly is it being split

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I heard you had to use euros to get in.wonder why...........green jhedi

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16 Apr 2012 18:19:15
Yesterday we got beat. Today rangers get hit with a new blow. From stv website Craig Whyte says:
"But anyone who is named the preferred bidder will have to talk to me and thrash out a deal."
Seems like the knife just gets deeper & deeper.

Would try & get a ticket for the next OF game as I don't see there being any more

Lenny

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Not anything new here Lenny, it's always been the case that any bidder that wants to buy the club will have to agree a deal with Whyte. The administrators have no power to accept an offer for the club (despite the absolute p1sh they're talking) and to install a new owner. Only Whyte can sell the club.

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Got my ticket today mate.hope we ram it right up them,artybhoy

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16 Apr 2012 18:11:05
Neil Lennon and the Celtic Squad won't get an easier chance to win a treble. Lennon all too often let us down will his team selections and if you can't motivate a team to win a treble then something is far wrong. Yes we were victims of some questionable decisions but fact is if we hadd had played to our best then we would have taken control of games rather than relying on refs to give or not give penalties. This is one of the weakest and inconsistent teams we had in a long while.

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Bit of a contradiction here...if we have a weak and inconsistent team then why would it have been easy to win the treble ?

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INCONSISTENT ?? 20 or so unbeaten run mean nothing to you ? Yes, we lost against an inferior Killie and Hearts side, why ? Not because of Lennon's inability to motivate the team or because of his team selections but because of 3 things: 1)we have a young team how are still learning the ropes, 2) we were missing some of our most influential players and 3) Joe Ledley's uncanny resemblance to big Vic. Keep the faith, in Lenny we trust. Hail Hail

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It was Lenny's team selection that won us the Championship.

Richybhoy

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We'll be alright mate your hitting the panic button with your comments. Yes the team has an element of inconsistency regarding performances. But not regarding results. We've lost 3 games in 6 months and were on a fantastic winning streak as I'm sure your aware. With young players and a young team as a whole this has to be expected. i still think we have grown and improved. It gave me great heart to see how we finished our european campaign with good results against rennes twice and udinese away. There are many positives. Listen i was saying on here earlier that i wasn't blaming the ref and it was the teams fault yesterday. and i stand by that. but being at the game i didn't get a great view of Ian Black's tackle on ledley but now having seen properly I'm raging. This is no weak team. Were an imposing striker and a centre half of the same variety away from a very, very good team. Shuggy67

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People like u do my head in 1 week hes the best manager in the world then 1 bad game hes the worst manager ever and needs 2 b sacked GET A GRIP

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Here, here , totally dafties .

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16 Apr 2012 18:00:35
First of all a belated congrats to Celtic on wining title ,
My point here is regards , Black (hearts player) he is a ned , if he played for any of the old firm he would be pulled up in front of panel etc using tv evidence.

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He should be and would have been had the referee not already booked him for the offence I have no doubt he would have been called up using tv evidence otherwise. It was a possible leg breaker.

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Couldnt agree more m8,for a professional footballer to continually tackle opponents in the way he does is shocking.lets not forget it was him that also put jelavic out the game for several months last season.......this guy will 1 day end someones footballing career.

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16 Apr 2012 17:52:56
any thoughts on the sfa meeting tommorrow to discuss rangers breaking the rules (5 counts) craig whyte has informed he will not turn up (why does lenny do likewise on thursday) i think this could be another whitewash with a massive fine which the gers cant pay and a centure for future conductwhat do you think ed {Ed007's Note - Just wait to see what happens first.}

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Do you know something we dont ed or am i reading to much into your reply lol davie c {Ed007's Note - CFC will be going in on Thursday well represented. There is evidence that makes the Dougie McDonald incident look timid. CFC will not accept ANY punishment given to NL for what happened in the Ibrox tunnel. The club is ready to fight all of this head on.}

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Cheers ed i have heard some stuff too it should be interesting davie c

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16 Apr 2012 17:44:48
To all you Rangers fans talking about bottlers, has your memory deserted you all again? MARIBOR, MALMO, FALKIRK, DUNDEE UTD, you have to get to finals and semi's to win or loose them. You should be more concerned about your own teams survival, We can handle the our managers tantrums at times(with good cause at times) yes it gets ott sometimes but show me a good looser and i will so you a looser. Perhaps you should pay the face painters, news agents, plumbers, before you come on here shouting about dignity and our manager. We have a young team and with perhaps a bit more experience in key areas (centre half) it will prove to be a very good one. maccabhoy

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Well said mate

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Yeah, the only thing that rangers have managed to stay in this season is ADMINISTRATION...

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16 Apr 2012 16:14:38
so i see the disgraced ex head of referees mr hugh dallas has expressed his opinion on lennon approaching the referee at the end of the game yesterday.i couldnt imagine a less impartial person to ask and for him to give a lesson on morality and bullying is laughable bearing in mind how he lost his position and the reports from ex referees about how he handled those under him at the sfa! {Ed007's Note - The fact that STV, Rangers media partner, gave the Bigot of Bonkle a platform says it all.}

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STV. they really should stick to crap telly and stay out of football.They cant even cover a game ffs...........green jhedi

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Shocking .Who within STV would have made this decision and you would have to ask why ?. TTTS

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I am disapointed to see the word bigot used by you ed. We may all dislike hugh Dallas but he was the best referee in the country for a number of years and very highly regarded by UEFA AND FIFA. We all know he has a grudge against Celtic after what happened a last season, but using words like bigot should not be a term used by an ed {Ed007's Note - Why shouldn't it? The circumstances surrounding his departure from the SFA proves he is a bigot. The facts are there, not only is he a bigot, his actions were disgusting. And to offer to help smooth over the referee's strike if he could keep his job just shows you the kind of horrendous and vile person he is. If what I say offends you then don't read it, it's not difficult.}

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Well done Ed007 The clown was found out big time and take it from me he is not the only Big - idi - ot to masquerade as a 'fair-minded un-biased football official' My son who is a blue-nose wasw at a function where another very well known ex-referee was an after dinner speaker and the bigotry and sectarian 'jokes' contained in his speech shocked him.
As usual it is forbidden to dare to raise such matters on public forums.

Jungle Jim {Ed007's Note - I am actually surprised they didn't wheel out that other pea-brained bigot Jeff Winter for a nice 'unbiased' view as well.}

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Unfortunitly you are in a postion of authority and with that come responsability this is not the first time I have read something from you which stirs up secterian hatred. You may have heard this before but once again shame on you. I hope that main admins are not reading what you are posting {Ed007's Note - Of course the main admin is reading, one of them is typing it. I have far more important things to do than worry about nameless little tools like you. There was nothing I said stirring up any sectarian hatred. You obviously don't know the meaning of sectarian hatred if you think me calling Dallas a bigot counts.}

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The joke email about the pope that was found on Hugh Dallas's computer and was passing around the SFA should answer any questions. If i was to pass around an email at my work joking about muslims or protestants i would lose my job and i could have no complaints about being labelled a bigot. Theres no argument. on a personal note i think he's a nasty wee sectarian Pr*@k. My mate worked in the sfa and received the said email. he's an aberdeen fan and he said it was the tip of the iceberg.

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Oh and don't even get me started on Jeff Winter. i would end up incriminating myself on here. Remember the comment he made about celtic fans being potato picking monkeys. Needs his baws booted. wouldn't be worth our time though fellow hoops.

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I wonder what Alex Salmonds thoughts were of the match (or is only when celtic win he calls a summit).

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Well said Ed, Dallas is indeed a bigot. To say otherwise is to lie.

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I'm sure Alex Salmond was delighted mate. He is , after all, known to be a Jambo.

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16 Apr 2012 16:13:25
Just read that El Hadj Dieuf, that bastion (or a word similar) of dignity
has been arrested on a serious assualt charge, seems some people never
change.... Timalloy {Ed007's Note -

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16 Apr 2012 15:01:03
Just sitting with a mate who's doing some research for a book he's writing, and honestly the abuse Lenny gets on various sites and even twitter is disgusting.Vile,semi literate morons covered in tattoos posting the worst kind of smears about himself,family and Celtic.I assume the guys are worse but i doubt it.As for the "dignified" rankers,have a look at walter smith on you tube going for big mixu p after a shocking novo tackle.Very classy.Honestly,i never thought there were people who could write this stuff,some of them with kids.Makes you wonder.And by the way my mates a gers fan who came round to rib me! It's only a game.morons on both sides need to remember that............green jhedi

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Yes you are right. it is only a game .........so why go off on one at the ref and not just say well done to Hearts.
Wibblyblue

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Green Jhedi, even on their own Rangers media, sly comments about cheating re gates/attendances years ago, silly references to brown envelopes stuffed with money (sounds more like the present Rangers board) and again vague references to child abuse, sick sick people just ignore them....
Wibbly wobbly were did you just spring from?... toddle off back to aunt Sally's house... Timalloy

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@wobblyblue;i never mentioned the ref are you blind? Or is it selective reading...........green jhedi

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You lot are laughable lol don't even try compare Lennon with smith. Last week Neil was comparing himself with oneil , McNeil , stein etc wtf and even saying he could win the champions league tut tut {Ed007's Note - Didn't one of Rangers prospective owners said he will win a Euro trophy for you? Talk about putting your foot Ng your mouth. NL never said he could win the CL, he said it was his ambition to, there is a difference. It is laughable how many people use these sites yet they can't read.}

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Trying to be unbiased I have to say the abuse nl gets is completely out of order and mostly by idiot neds all though some are not either way they should be jailed for saying some of the things they say. With regard to the game he should not have raced onto the pitch. Looking at the anger on his face is enough to intimidate anyone. Can you imagine if paulo sergio or kenny shiels ran onto the pitch in the manner showing as much aggression, they would be castigated. His tweet although clearly made when angry was still shocking. Any manager in europe would get a serious suspension for saying a referee's decision was because of personal reasons. Can you imagine what would happen to arsene wenger or alex ferguson if they said that. You can see the anger and distress in his face but he must learn to stop this.

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How long ago was the Walter Smith and Mixu Patalainen incident? Also, how many other incidents of that kind was Walter Smith involved in after that? Then we have Lennon, how many of these incidents has he been involved in in the past two seasons?

Yes ther are morons who give Lennon undeserved abuse, nobody in their right mind can condone that. But, at the same time, you can't condone Lennon's antics after his team are beaten! He is a sore loser. There is always one victim he will snarl at!!

TTG

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Mccoist gets abuse on celtic forums too... So walter loses it in a game, took his ban... Lennons attitude and lack of dignity on a REGULAR basis hence a 4 snd 8 match ban handed to him for his conduct 3 charges in a month and possible further sancyions for sprinting towards and verbally abusing the ref {Ed007's Note - Innocent until proven guilty......surely Rangers fans understand that. They have been wrongly bleating it for months.}

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Green Jhedi - you talk a lot of nonsense at times. You post on here all the time and I am judging by the amount of times you post and the content of your posts, you are about 16.

I have been a season ticket holder at Celtic for as long as I can remember, and yes some of the bile that is posted on other websites directed at Celtic and Neil Lennon is disgusting. However that does not give me nor you an excuse to generalise, i.e. tarring everyone with the same brush.

Think before you post as you are starting to get on my nerves.

PS great site by the way {Ed007's Note - Thanks.}

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Hi Timalloy, the first point is in direct response to you telling wibblyblue to 'toddle off'. I have read numerous opinions you have placed on the rangers site over the past few months, some I have agreed with and some I haven't (notably when you were making a cogent argument in response to a point rather than an obviously stupid wind up off an equally stupid original post). Yourself and Green Jhedi (two of the more regular visitors) are frequently told to 'toddle off' despite, in my opinion, being two of the more sensible Celtic fans who post on the site, with articulately made and intelligent opinions I can at least respect if not necessarily agree with. You do not need to stoop to the same level as the morons from both sides who occupy most of the space on the site and just dismiss someone because they have an opposing view. dismantling their argument and politely informing them why they are wrong might make them value your opinion as I do yours.

Green Jhedi, I agree with you wholeheartedly about the constant abuse Lennon takes, something has to be done about it. It is completely unacceptable and true Ranger's fans are as appalled by it as you are. I will take issue with you about Walter Smith's behaviour being no different to Lennon's though as the abuse Lennon receives doesn't give him carte blanche to behave as aggressively or as disrespectfully as he does towards other teams, managers and players. Give respect and you get it back is how it works.
Longevity has to be considered as well. How many instances can you pick out in Smith's lengthy career that can be regarded as controversial? Two or three maybe? In Lennon's short managerial career so far how many? Absolutely no comparison to the level of controversy. In terms of humility there is also no comparison. I can't remember Lennon genuinely praising an opposing team after accepting a defeat gracefully and admitting he got his selection wrong or his team didn't perform well enough. His reaction and lack of good grace after the Cup final was cringeworthy and he only gave Kilmarnock any form of minimal praise a few days after the tragedy that followed it.
It is always a conspiracy or someone else's fault with him and that is just one of the things that winds up even the non sectarian section of Rangers fans (yes there is one - just as there is at Parkhead when some argue that there isn't) and makes him the hate figure that Martin O'Neill never was. He needs to take a step back and think about things before reacting. I am not saying that he isn't justified on SOME occasions, but decisions go against every team in big games (goal that never was? Didn't hear him screaming for justice or saying the officials had it in for us that day.). He is no longer just a player that can lose it and get away with it; he is the figurehead of one of the biggest clubs in the world and a potential role model for tens of thousands of kids. My respect had grown for him as he appeared to be maturing over the past few months and was conducting himself in a manner befitting the greats he mentioned last week but in the last few weeks his behaviour has gone back to how it was last season - an embarrassment to himself, Celtic and Scottish football when viewed from outside the blinkered goldfish bowl. {Ed007's Note - Thanks mate, another decent post from a Rangers fan. One point though, didn't Rangers fans take a dislike to MON after he grabbed NL at Ibrox and gave a fist up salute to show his support for him after the racial and sectarian abuse NL had to endure?}

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Ed - I was one Rangers fan who actually admired Martin O'Neil's support for Neil Lennon that day. The guy was taking dogs abuse and his manager was determined to show that no matter what abuse was thrown at him his own support were what mattered. Nevertheless Celtic are a massive club and it's important for the manager not just to recognise the pressure that comes with the job but also that such a job demands high standards of conduct.

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Thanks Ed. Respectful, constructive and objective dialogue, bet you never thought you would see the day, lol. You make a good point as that did affect how he was viewed afterwards by certain sections of the support, but in terms of his approach to the managerial role he was head and shoulders above Neil Lennon in terms of overall respect and it had nothing to do with winning titles or cups. O'Neill was always respectful of the opposition and their players/managers. He also had the media in his back pocket most of the time as he had some assets the current manager doesn't have (or doesn't show enough of in public at least - I have never met him personally), charm, charisma and most importantly humility. Furthermore, he passionately supported his team and players and kicked every ball with them. Lennon is definitely passionate and clearly supports his team and players, even the most bigoted morons couldn't deny that. The difference is Martin O'Neill, apart from the very odd occasion such as the one you highlighted, boxed the passion away as soon as the whistle went, shook hands without sneering or chasing officials, and conducted himself in a highly dignified manner for the vast majority of his tenure. A bit like Fergie he also had the knack of implying things in a press conference without actually saying them or choosing to not answer particular questions when he was still upset about a decision. He generally stayed under the radar of the SFA etc as a consequence. A person can be disliked and remain well respected by their opposition and I would argue that he was and still is grudgingly respected by most Rangers fans. Lennon currently isn't wily enough to realise when to go for it and when to box up his disappointment and move on. That is why he is disliked so much by the 'ordinary' supporter and O'Neill wasn't. Problem is now that both sides are so entrenched it will be extremely difficult to ever change that. Shame, because as I said above I felt he was really starting to mature over the past few months and once the titles etc came it would be difficult not respect him in the long run, particularly given the abuse etc.

Brian

Sorry, forgot to post my name last time. {Ed007's Note - Ah Brian I recognise your name now, you have posted a few times. Can you hold classes for other Rangers fans on Posting For Adults :-) NL does have a lot to learn with regards to the media and how he is portrayed, he definitely isn't as 'cute' as MON, Walter Smith or even McCoist for that matter when it comes to dealing with the media. He seems to get caught up in the heat of the moment after games as well. I love his commitment to the team and the club, but I think he needs to have a settling period after every game before he gets interviewed. Look at AF, Jose etc, as you say they have learned how and when to get their point across in their own way. If he truly feels there is any bias, then go about it in the correct manner and take it straight to the SFA/SPL, straight after matches is not the time to do it.}

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Okay;The guy who named me;when did i generalise? Never.I also have been a season ticket holder for over 25 years, so 16?, i wish!If you look at the end of my post i clearly say there are morons on both sides.I really cant understand why you seem to be getting your panties in a bunch?Getting on your nerves?Try leaving a name and have some dialogue.So, seems to me your wrong mate.Im sure ed007 will vouch i NEVER post anything offensive,so i just dont get your point.@ long poster; great points,well made and hard to argue against. cheers...........green jhedi

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My Dear green jehdi. I am sorry if my uttering’s have in anyway caused you any upset or distress, the point I was trying to make was...........that Mr Lennon is a manager of the club now, he is the figure head the role model the bench mark, he is what sets the tone of the whole club, and in the end what all those who love there club follow, I just feel that he needs to find a way to act more like some of the grates that you have had at your club. If your wee boy wanted to be like the Celtic manager, would it be Lennon or would it be Burns.....that’s my point. ....................yours forever in football
Wibblyblue.

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16 Apr 2012 14:18:40
I hope the young Polish defender is more than decent because as far as i'm concerned Kelvin Wilson is an utter joke, Loovens a sh**ebag and Majstorivic not good enough. Rogne has had some good games and i think he deseves a chance to stay.

Ki will never make it at Celtic, Cha can go with him, McCourt, McGinn and Gary Hooper is a great finisher but oftenlazy and uninterested. A good clear out is necessary with some quality and experience coming in throught the spine of the team, defender, midfield and a striker - dont know who but they must be out there. I'd also like to see Johnny Russell come in.

I'm delighted we are Champions but we missed too many chances yesterday and those 2 at the centre of defence are scarier than a snapshot of the Rangers support. Lenny also needs to take a deep breath and 20 seconds out before he reacts to things. Never a penalty right enough. Hail Hail and we should all be happy after some good work this season with a lot to llok forward to. Teasie.

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16 Apr 2012 13:51:11
hi ed, have you heard anything about the boy david forde of millwall being looked at for the gk position if big fraser doesn't sign a new deal. {Ed007's Note - No.}

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16 Apr 2012 13:35:58
That young team aren't ready to be a treble winning team although we came very close to it. We need more experience in team. Very young side. What dose everybody think of the Swedish guy at right back. He was good going forward but not great at defending. I'd have big Victor on my team sheet wit Ledley every week. We have Izzy,Kayal and wee jamesy to come in to that team. Good luck to wee Pat Fenlon in the final. Maybe pat you should change your name to Billy for the day just in case ;). Bigirishmac

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Thought Ledley had his worst game fror Celtic - he was non existent.

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16 Apr 2012 13:31:50
Neil Lennon can blame everyone and everyone for his teams shortcomings but his team selections MUST be looked at. Number 1 striker at the club should be STOKES not Hooper, Stokes offers creativity and scores goals, Hooper although a very good finisher offers very little to the team. KI is a waste of a strip a good player no doubt but not for our game, side ways every time you touch the ball is not good enough we need some killer passes. SAMI should be away by now how many chances is he goin to get to prove he is hopeless. And maybe spend some money on centre backs, all in recent history bar Loovens have been free and you only get what you pay for. But enough CHAMPIONS anyway ....... SC

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Stokes is the weakest striker at the club. He has no power no pace and cant jump, his goalscoring abilities are overrated 11 league goals this season, outscored by Daly, Higdon et al. What is needed is a powerful target man to play alongside Hooper and hold the ball up for the midfield. Loovens again let us down in both goals he only had to tackle the hearts player out wide, put the ball out for a throw in and disrupt the attack. He allowed the opponents too much space and let them build up the attack resulting in the first goal and the corner for the second. Wilson is looking increasingly unlikely to be a success. None of this is a surprise for four years now everyone including our management team have been stating we need to sign a quality centre half and a powerful dominating centre forward, this is a must for the new season

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Stokes could be a better striker and a num 1 but he needs to work with the team more. he keeps the play to himself and always looks for a shot when a pass is better, this is why hooper is being played he runs more while srokes complains and waves his arms. once stokes fixes that part of his game he will be a better striker and make the international team as well as more games for us. sammi is going to stay unless he has a great performance in international team as well as ki and good money comes in, for i think we are going to wait untile the euroes are done to get more money for players, if not they are the type of players for the CL which again would see there value go up...so dont get too upset when they stay and in the end help us with thier game or value.

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16 Apr 2012 12:11:51
Morning ed and all the bhoys,and Mrs E of course! Lovely day here in Glasgow and yesterday is behind us.Big questions being asked of Lenny again and, to be honest,they are justified.The one thing i will say is that we had our chances,even though we never played anything like we did at Killie to clinch the league.The penalty decision was laughable as was Black staying on the pitch,but are we glossing over what now,is starting to look like a flaw in this team's DNA? Right now of all the "big" games our record is not clever.Rankers;two losses and one win(lets not forget the "goal" incident) League cup:poor semi final and loss in the final.Scottish cup:a bit lucky against Dundee Utd and a loss in the semi.I dont class the clincher at Killie as a crunch game as we had a huge cushion.We had chances but were not fluent or sharp in any area of the pitch yesterday but surely we should be beating a team of journeymen?Yes we are a young team,and that shows at times,But i think Lenny has been remiss in not freshening things up.I would hope the rest of the season is all about players getting their chance,and developing a shape in which to play EVERY game.I remember watching the Udinese away game thinking if we play that shape every game we would be untouchable domestically.Where did it go? We have had long term injury problems,but we have a huge squad.Why has Brozek not had a chance? Hooper and stokes have been poor for a while and Sammi is,well Sammi!.Loovens back is another puzzle.Why not the boy fraser? did not let anybody down in europe so he earned it surely.I still trust Lenny to get it right,but i think there might be more work than we all thought before it's right..........green jhedi

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I'd have Loovens in every day before Kelvin Wilson!

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That says a whole lot more about KW that it does about Loovens!

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The point was loovens will be off in the summer,so why start playing him now? posted before Wilson looks good till he has to defend.Rogne by far the best cb at the moment..........green jhedi

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It's unfair to call the WHOLE Hearts team journeymen.

As far as referees go there will always be controversy and conspiracy theories surrounding them. I personally know one retired referee who told me that there was definitely bias to one side of the OF or the other in his day among certain referees.

I think the main difference yesterday was the managers.

At Hearts when wee Vlad sticks his nose in it causes paranoia and uncertainty which disrupt performances.

When Sergio is left to get on with it he bonds the team and is pretty good tactically which is essential when you have a team of journeymen trying to punch above their weight.

The difference seems to be (although I don't know for certain), is that NL is given a free hand by his board and as a result his erratic behaviour and tactical inexperience produce erratic performances.

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@Jambo; thanks for posting mate and congrats on getting through.I do think Sergio did a good job actually,good subs at good times.you called your own team journeymen there though! A better way would be to say man for man we should be better.Cheers..........green jhedi

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, truth is Celtic have only won the league , lots of Celtic fans shouting we are the best team what about the run that took us 4 points in front of gers before the 10 point deduction ? During that run Celtic were not great I.e 1.0 wins at parkhead that's not including offside goals, goals that crossed the line , red cards etc start of the season to October there was only 1 team in the hunt for the title then they throw it away themselves and Celtic fans know that but won't admit

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Aye good post fae green jhedi

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16 Apr 2012 11:42:23
Morning ed. Woke up this morning and we are still champions.. I think Lenny was right to confront the ref before he got down the tunnel to hide behind the Sfa. People say Lenny can't take a defeat what about Ross County then?? He came out blame the players. If Alex Fergusion got half the bad decision Celtic get against them in big games he would be joking the ref. As Charlie Richmond stated to many Refs in the Spl are there for sucking up to the right people. #champions Lenny dosen't do backing down. Bigirishmac

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16 Apr 2012 10:43:53
Celtic are going in team handed legally on the 19th and I know they have evidence that could implode on the SFA in major fashion!

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If your not Matt McGlone you copied this verbatim you rascal! Be interesting to see the outcome though...........green jhedi

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16 Apr 2012 10:45:28
This Thursday Neil is up on two charges, the Ibrox tunnel & other comments, my sources tell me this will be more explosive than Dougiegate...... matt mcglone via twitter

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Its the officiating of the game that brings the game into 'disrepute'. not players, coaches or managers.

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16 Apr 2012 00:03:04
Kevbhoy, its no just you bud. It was no a penalty but the running on the pitch thing...someone needs to sit him down and calm him down before his health deteriorates. Our goal was offside so we got away with one anyway. Love Lenny but he really needs to conduct himself in a way fitting a Celtic manager.....sometimes he does with bells on.....but sometimes....like today, i felt he let himelf down a wee bit.

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I agree NL should rise above this sometimes and discuss these things in private. Very rarely do you hear NL accepting defeat professionally. Yes, he is aggrieved but he has to remeber he is representing Celtic its not just about NL.

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I agree with the comments so far. It's the hate filled contorted face at the end of EVERY defeat which is a disgrace. How dare NL talk of himself in the same breath as Mr Stein, Billy McNeil or Martin O'Neil. These guys were/are dignified gentlemen. Hated losing but would never refuse a hand at the end of a match. Sorry NL acts like a thug a year's touchline ban is the least he should get after Sundays disgrace. As Guardiolla says at Barca "Great teams don't need decisions from Refs" Dosen't NL always say "we were great today"

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I agree with Neil Lennon standing up against all these Dodgey decisions however the way he loses his head and brands them cheaters is wat he needs to sort

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Lennon has behaved like an idiot right from the Ross County game. His team prove time and time again that they are bottlers. Champions league winners............canny even win a cup final in Scotland, what chance do they have of winning anything against a half decent team.

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If a man wearing his heart on his sleeve annoys you so much maybe its that football isnt your sport....It could more of a case of bad losers looking a scrapegoat.....TTTS

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I agree. When we look back at the likes of Stein, McNeill, Hay, Burns and O'Neill, none of them would have behaved in this manner. Every one of then was as passionate about Celtic, but with the position of being Celtic Manager comes a duty to respresent the club in a dignafied way, unfortunately Lennon does not do this.

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I was there yesterday and it should be his players he has a rant at on the pitch as they let everyone down. NL running on at the end was embarassing. This is NOT what I want to see a Celtic manager do.

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Underdog teams like Kilmarnock and their fans rarely have any success so to say they did not deserve the win in the league cup was a bit unsporting.He would have got a lot of credit for congratulated them publically on their win no matter what he was thinking privately so as not to spoil their big day

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Why is it that some people including alleged Celtic fans cannot seem to wait to have a go at NL. Ok perhaps he was a little rash yesterday but lets put things into context as according to some reports NL has been the subject of not only a conspiracy by the criminal elements in Scottish society but now it he appears he may also to be subject an establishment conspiracy. I ask all of you who would not display some emotional traits or characteristics in the workplace given those kind of pressures. So what I am saying is Back Off our manager. He will in the fullness of time be vindicated for his seemingly over the top or embarrassing actions. BTW the arrogance of the Rangers posters beggars belief. They really should be concentrating on delivering themselves from div 3 or if they end up playing in the SPL even after liquidation how they are responsible for the integrity fairness and justice in the Scottish game being dragged through the mud and being made a laughing stock of world football.Sopot Celt

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Getting beat is not the issue it happens to the best . it's the constant honest mistakes that are getting harder to accept but the refs and the establishment are what they are ,always better to hammer the lot of them but the joy when Celtic get beat for all quarters is amazing they seem to get more out of that then their own teams and the joy the eye from the media sums up Scotland as a country.

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