Celtic Rumours Archive June 14 2012

14 Jun 2012 20:44:05
Hi Ed only my second post, never signed my last one but it was the one about hating on best lol! Could you list all the realistic players we are being linked with just so i have an idea of what to expect next season? Would be much appreciated :)

Also, do you think we should give Tony Watt plenty more starts next season? PaoloBhoy1888 {Ed007's Note - Welcome to the site Paolo. I think Tony Watt should get more chances but I wouldn't want to see him pressured into oblivion like we have seen with so many young players. As for players that I know contact has been made over, obviously Mills from Leicester and Jordan Rhodes, Andy Johnson's reps have said that CFC are interested in him as well. There has been contact regarding Leitch-Smith from Crewe and Markus Henriksen from Rosenborg. There was interest in Bjorn Bergmann Sigurdarson, but it looks as if Everton or Wolves will sign him. Other players we have been linked with to varying degrees are Maor Melikson, Odise Roshi, Remi Johansen, Jason Shackell, Yann Kermorgant, youngster Luke James. CFC also watched Matty Phillips from Blackpool on a regular basis last year. A lot will depend on who leaves the club.}

14 Jun 2012 20:25:20
Alright Ed if sly cancels the new deal do you think anyone else will put a package together or do you think streaming is the way foreward? Also i keep meaning to ask what did you do to your leg I seen the picture (ouch!) but never heard what happened.cheers

Briggs {Ed007's Note - I would think maybe Disneysports (ESPN) would be interested seeing they have lost EPL rights from season 2013/14 Briggs. I had an accident at work years ago and had metal pins etc put in my leg, the metalwork became infected and had to be removed about 18 months ago mate, it's just not been right since then.}

Did the SPL not do a survey to set up their own telly channel? I'd get it and cancel sly sports in a minute. We'd get more than the nothing sly will offer

Cheers ed hope they get rid of Burley if it happens I can't stand the guy, you would think he was an ex rangers (rip) player the way he goes. Hope the leg gets better.

Briggs {Ed007's Note - Thanks mate. I agree with you about Burley, he is terrible.}

Ed: I am sick to the back teeth of all this Sly whyte...let them take their contract, blackmailing our country and it's national sprot to protect a corrupt bigotted institution that is now defunct.
If they go what happens? the clubs will offer contracts within their budget to players, that, let's be honest are not worth what they are on at the moment, if they do not take the new contract then they get punted and a youth takes their place, resulting in our home grown talent coming through and being given a chance, give it a decade of this policy and we will have a league that is competative and the pedigree of the whole countries teams go up in stature....so Sly can threaten all they want, as for the old institution they are in the past, the rangers football club are less than 24 hours old, let them start in div 3 and see how they fair....the world will still keep turning, the sun will still rise and fall.

Hi Ed, am I missing something here, if Rangers were religated then could sly cancel deal, or would they insist on Rangers being allowed to stay up?. Is this whole sly thing a red herring?

TheEssexHoops {Ed007's Note - The deal hasn't been signed yet mate. No TV deal can stipulate which teams are in a league.}

ESPN have no reason to stay in Britain anymore, whose going want to watch hibs vs aberdeen etc every second week when Celtic are at home?

14 Jun 2012 19:43:31
Ed007

I was reading today that SLY will pull the deal if " The Rangers Football" don't get into the SPL.

What do you think would happen if ALL Celtic supporters and supporters of any other club who are sky subscribers were to cancel or at least threaten to cancel their contracts with SLY if they carried out their threat?.... Do you think they would possibly reconsider?

Hoopey67 {Ed007's Note - I would urge all football fans, not just CFC fans not to subscribe to SLY anyway.}

Could be a good thing. get back to 3:00 kick-off's and get the crowds back

Can I ask a question please? If 'The Rangers' didn't get into the SPL and Sly cancelled the tv deal, why would ALL fans want to cancel their subscription and what do you think it would achieve? I thought the point was the league could survive without rangers?

I firmly believe the league could survive. It would show SLY that there is a lot of people who have absolutely no interest in Rangers. I do feel sorry for the gers fans however I am sick to death of hearing " we should just go to the 3rd division and show them" well off they should trot.

Hoopey67

Well said Ed...

If just say a million Scottish supporters cancelled their Sly packages in protest at no Sly sports coverage even though Sly are a very wealthy company am pretty sure they would miss £60-£70m a month.

14 Jun 2012 19:16:35
Its more than likely to be crap but I will ask anyway, a couple of stories doing the rounds of Liverpool intrest in Wanyama Ed, have you heard anything? I can't see it myself, but we do need a back up DM. Perhaps a deal that could be done in the future.
JFT96
Smithy {Ed007's Note - As far as I know Smithy it is the player and his agent that are generating these stories, most likely looking to get a pay rise. There is no confirmed interest in him from anyone right now.}

14 Jun 2012 16:05:48
Just also like to point out that we should remember the Twardzik boys. I have seen them a few times and I think they might have a future and would like to see them get more time against teams in the cups next season

Agreed mate!
They are 19 now and have been with us for a few years now so should defo be pushing for places on the bench at the very least.
HH
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14 Jun 2012 15:13:51
with ki injury whats the chance of him getting sold on ,ed

FozzY {Ed007's Note - The window doesn't close until 31st August.}

Hope we dont wait too long ed.if we are going to sell one of our midfielders then i hope we get it done within the next few weeks so we have a chance of using it before the qualifiers

MK BHOY {Ed007's Note - Nobody can be signed until 1st of July anyway MK unless they are free agents.}

14 Jun 2012 14:28:42
Hi bhoys what would you think on Chris Sutton coming in to replace thommo mind you I'm sure what he is doing now

Matt23

Defo no, John Collins for me, he will help with fitness, diets, guy would be perfect for Neil to have beside him, no more mates
Ska bhoy

Yeah sutton would b a good head to have around for sure i remember he quit lincoln as a manager for some form of private reason personal issues or something
he still ranks up there for saying his job was to "put rangers in their place"
im sure lennon willl choose the right guy if he chooses anyone at all
ParadiseAndy

I think sutton is perfect but what is lubo up to these days.i think someonoe like him who was unbelievably technically gifted would help alot of the younger players in our squad.im sure he could improve certain aspects of their game. i still dont know what foot was his strongest! lol

MK BHOY

Sutton is a good shout. But the one name I haven't seen mentioned yet is John Kennedy. He has done well with the young Celts.

Sutton would be great in there. And lubo does some scouting for us

A definate no for john collins too full of himself wouldn,t get on with neil lennon

Sutton, lubo, kennedy an of them would be welcomed by me and sell hooper for £8m and bring back the king as player/ coach {Ed007's Note - Few beers watching the game tonight mate ;-)

14 Jun 2012 12:37:57
STV is to broadcast a special one-hour Scotland Tonight programme to mark to unfolding of the previously known as Rangers crisis.

Rangers...The Downfall will be on tonight at 10.30pm

Dont see it in the t.v listings mate can you enlighten me please. Im well keen seeing as i have kicked the arse out of watching "the men who sold the jerseys" on my sly plus. Never seems to get old, my missus is getting fed up with it though. {Ed007's Note - It was advertised last night, but you're right, it isn't on the listings......

Living in England I don't get the chance to watch STV. Is there any way it can viewed?

Think it will be just media spin saying how we all cannot do without them and it was everyone elses fault but theirs.

10.40 according to STV site

At the end of the day this is a Celtic page and we're here to talk about Celtic. Enough with the Rangers chat and let's focus on our own club while they suffer. Hail Hail 'Mon the Champions!

Quite right mate talk about the champions, but it is funny talking about them, you couldnt make up whats happening in your wildest dreams

14 Jun 2012 09:36:00
Morning ed, is it true that Sally McCoist has walked away? If so then I can see a long line of players following suit. This should be another fun day in the big house

Mikey Bhoy {Ed007's Note - There is nothing left to walk away from him Mikey.}

Ed you are so full of pi.h you plst your thoughts as fact and berate any bear who dares disagree with you. McCoist wont walk away as there is still a FOOTBALL club get that through your thick head and also ome which is soon to be owned by Sir Walter backed by some of scotlands most prominent buisnessmen! cant see you posting this as its not the uaual celtic propaganda thats drumed up on this page.have a nice day.onehappyBear {Ed007's Note - ROFLMAO......oh dear!!!!}

OnehappyBear...What exactly is there for Sally 2 walk away from?

Once you find an answer then I'm sure Ed and myself will let you know.

Have a day off!!

Richybhoy

I thought Fat Sally didnt do walking away....??

The cardigan eh....hope he's not conned into paying £1 for them, that would be way overpriced!

Good riddance to Scotland's Shame

onehappyTim
Iain

14 Jun 2012 00:14:56
Just reading up on the 2013 EPL deal. 2 billion quid!! for 3 years. and that is only the UK rights! absolutley mentsl. Wotrth more than worldwice World Cup rights and the Olympics (although that is dross usually)

Here was me hoping the arse end would fall out of that overinflated tosh we get from down south! partly due to the economic times we live in and the fact that surley sanity would come into play at somepoint.

Suppose they wouldnt pay that money unless they thought they could make money from it. But between 14 mil and 18 mil permatch is just ridiculous money.

Christ scottish football cant even get 1% of that for 5 effing years. The gap is just going to get wider, egardless of what happens to rangers.

Sad thing is where does this money go? i mean look at your lower EPL clubs, they cannot run at a profit, where does the money go? wages, probably. But something is really amiss with english football. Where exactly does the money go? it certainly doesnt go on grassroots. Surley it all cannot simply be rediculous wages... I think UEFA have missed a trick with the Fair Financial malarkey. Salary caps should be introduced. IE cannot be more than 70 % of your income or such like and no greater than x amount a week. Make these money grabbing pussy footballers work for their money! Half of them rarely seem to! esp with the quality on show half the time in most matches, IMO of course.Evinguu

Evinguu mate thanks for getting that off my chest! I absolutely seethe at both the outrageous salaries and the ever widening gap between north and south of the border. One way to deal with it is to do what sensible CFC fans do with the DR Just dont but the sports package from Sky/BT or whoever is controlling things. I know there are some good games that would be missed but I watch the Bundisleaga, the games are better and it cost me nowt. It also gives me a better appreciation of the game, tactics, different styles etc. So all in all I dont miss the EPL. I wish I could pick up some Nordic football although I occasionally drop into la Liga and Eredivisie. On a related but separate issue IMHO we have major problems in Scotland due to the lazy and inept business managers and leadership at most Scottish clubs. Apart from some very rare and welcome exceptions (I also think CFC could do more in this regard) these guys just dont do anything to increase their fan base and attendances. Sopot Celt

It's absolutely an obscene amount of money just to televise football; like you I was of the opinion they would burn themselves out in this financial climate with greed contributing to the melt-down.
However, they seem to be more powerfull
with more than a little help from non - English subscribers who subsidise this.
Scots like myself included - who are in all honesty, cutting off our noses etc to view a very tiny percent of programmes aimed at Scots Sport/Football; while we pay the same fees as down south for all-things-English with blazen bias.
Plus the talking anus - Jim Whyte...
If my good lady had not got Sly as a gift for me, I would get shot pronto....Don't tell her I said that, she's a BIG WUMAN!

Jungle Jim

Sopot- What would you do to increase attendances and increase our fan base?

We have fans all over the world and when we play pre-season games abroad this is highlighted and yes our attendances are not as high since MON era but they are returning.

Not sure what you are on!!

Richybhoy

Correction, 3 billion all in, 2 is just slys involvement.

Sopot Celt - It is outrageous utterly so. Sad state of affairs though is sly and BT feel they are getting value for money and scope for profit.

1 game in the EPL is worth an entire season of SPL with the deal we may or may not have. Are you trying to tell me that it is worthwhile paying 16 mil for Wigan vs Bolton is better than the games from the past between Celtic and Rangers ? or even bloody Hearts and Hibs! as we wont have derbys anymore..but these were/are a much bigger draw imo.

The wages on offer are unreal. Are man City fans really getting value for money with players like Balotelli on 120k or so a week... is that value? well maybe balotelli is cos he is a nut job, but he is pretty overrated. Same goes for a lot of other players. But then again we do not have a wealth of riches in terms of players like we did 10 years ago. I would say overall the quality has gone down in more areas than it has gone up (accross the board of course there are exceptions)

Anyways back on point. I try to watch a fair bit of football. generally its just scottish football i will watch but i do like german and spanish when im in a footballey mood.... Not through sky (anymore) through the wonderful world of online streaming.... The more Sky etc put prices up for subscription the more will be driven away to watch their sports channels online ( usually using their bloody broadband provision which is kinda sweet lol)

That is the future of football if they dont start lowering the cost to fans and the tv companies ( well all companies) stop concentrating on profit and just providing a fantastic product to all. Business in general should do this. Profits will come if the product is right. But sadly profits come when it is the only choice in town.

The bubble will burst but maybe not as soon as some of us hoped..

Christ im in a right ranty mood the day now... whats next hmmmm

Evinguu

Can you bhoys not get SPL matches streamed on the old laptop ?
I don't bother with Sly at all. I never have and never would.
But the problem down here now is the footy has all gone soopa trendy and it's a barsteward to get into PL matches if you're not a season ticket holder.
I got quoted well over a 100 notes by a lad selling tickets outside of Norwich v Liverpool.
The Real KB

{Ed007's Note - For legal reasons I can't recommend any particular sites to stream matches but:

1. Install the browser Google Chrome.

2. Look in the top right (your right) corner and you will see a spanner.

3. Click on the spanner and select 'tools'.

4. Click on extensions

5. At the bottom right (as you look at it) you will see 'Get More Extensions >>'. Select this.

6. In the search box type 'Chrome Live Football' and search.

7. Click on Chrome Live Football and then click on install. (it may download to a holding file in the bottom left as you look at it, in which case as soon as it's finished click there, but mostly it will install itself)

8. A small football will then appear in the top right (as you look at it). Click on that, select 'live stream' and reset the clock to GMT and it will list all the live games available all over europe and other places.

You may occasionally need to install other programmes or the link you pick will only work on Explorer (in which case cut and paste the URL into Explorer), but you will always get every EPL match (or any other). Sometimes you will only be able to find it with foreign commentary and sometimes you will get it in English. You'll get about thirty links and you may have to look through a lot of them to get what you want. You will also get most La Liga matches, Greek matches, Italian matches and French matches as well as top matches from South America.

Someone also asked about viruses etc. Google Chrome is actually far more secure than Internet Explorer so the risks are considerably less, but you should have decent virus/spyware programmes and run sweeps regularly as a matter of course.

The quality will also depend on the speed of your internet connection. If you have super-speed and have a modern HD TV, consider connecting your PC to the TV via the PC socket on the side/ back.

Cut and paste the above into a document and save it for future reference.

Nice points Evinguu. Please rant away I am enjoying it immensely.
Richybhoy I am old school, as such I dont respond to such impolite questioning and the implication that my mental faculties are not reliable. In any case I generally charge 100 USD per hour (net) for consultancy. Sorry to disappoint. Sopot Celt

I will say one thing in defence of the PL television deal ; that they divvy the money out fairly equitably to all the clubs.
Not like Spain for instance.
But, on the downside to that, you've got clowns now arguing that Reading are a bigger club than Celtic cos they've got a few quid in the bank. Lol, had to laugh when I saw that the other day Ed.
But it's a sad state that people can even think that.
Do you think this tele deal will stave off the breakaway European league that's occasionally raised ?
The Real KB {Ed007's Note - I couldn't believe that Reading argument KB!! And from a Newcastle fan?? That should put the breakaway league to bed for a few years anyway, unless other European teams make moves.}

The real KB, not seen you on here in a while, hello.

Every Celtic game i have had to watch somewhere I have been able to find online. The hardest ones to get usually are if we are playing european qualifiers they are a right bugger and you may need to make do with radio sometimes. Which is a pretty sad state of affairs. Especially if its the europa league, Fulham and stoke would get shown on telly before us! its a bloody joke!

Its the same for rangers games ( mostly) but any other SPL club you aint gonna see them unless they are playing us or them or they get to semis of cup competition generally very few games get broadcast. Unless you go to the game of course.

Its a sad state of affairs. But Ed that Google Chrome thing is very good normally.

Evinguu

Well maybe I am one of the sad bhoys in town, but I have my CelticTV Premier account (179.99 quid a yr) to see the hoops playing in SPL. For others it is decided on a match by match basis between the club and TV companies. I do live abroad though and qualify for the premier account.....
As for EPL I cant be bothered with it as it full of premadonna's who canty hack it in Italy or Spain ;)