Celtic Rumours Archive June 13 2012

13 Jun 2012 21:27:40
Hi Ed,

I read that Rangers get a vote when asked about the new co getting into the SPL.

How can that be as they are no longer members of the SPL as a liquidated company.

I would think that Dunfermline should also get a vote as they were in the league when Rangers went into administration.

Lost Bhoy 50 {Ed007's Note - Rangers don't get a vote as far as I know LB.}

Rangers wont be getting a vote.it will be the other 11 including ross county. i expect aberdeen,motherwell,hearts and dundee unted to definitely vote against them so i think they are in bother!

SPL have already confirmed that Rangers will get a vote liquidated or not. Baffles me too.

Looks like the admission of a newco is a qualified resolution. This requires 90% agreement, they don't need eight yes votes, they need eleven

Yes Rangers most certainly get a vote...yes it's a nonsense but they will be voting.

They definitely get a vote. Ive read the same as the others. I hope they stay in the SPL with Points deductions and transfer embargo. I would love to play them next season and give them 4 of the biggest hidings they have had in there lifes (almost said history there lol). I will buy my season ticket every year no matter what happens, I just think it be a bit boring once we eventually go out of Europe whenever that might be. I watched almost all of there games last year and I've got to tell you I enjoyed watching them playing absolute garbage and taking a few beatings.

I they have to get a vote and there is no way i am ever goin to a ground that votes to keep a new co in the spl that includes celtic

Remarkably RFC* (in admin and undergoing liquidation) can vote on TRFC getting admission. This is because the full liquidation process won't be complete by the time of the vote. Only however in football could the conflict of interest be ignored. Paul

13 Jun 2012 21:52:36
Rumours floating around work that we've got scouts at the Euros specifically looking at Kostas Mitroglou (striker) from Greece and Poland's Jakub Wavrzyniak (defender). Both would be available for reasonable fees.

13 Jun 2012 22:07:16
Just a thought ed,do you think ki will leave now that cha has left.I would take 5m for him what do you think mate?
Conor67 {Ed007's Note - I don't think it has anything to do with Cha leaving. I expect Aston Villa to be the first club to bid for Ki.}

The main reason cha came in was to help ki settle and it worked and ive always thought if cha goes then there is a good chance ki will too {Ed007's Note - First I have heard of that.}

13 Jun 2012 17:47:08
What happens to the club's history?
The Rangers Football Club PLC is a public limited company registered in Scotland (company number: SC004276) and was incorporated on 27 May, 1899. When the current company is officially liquidated, all of its corporate business history will come to an end.
When this happened to Airdrieonians in 2002, all of the trophies, titles and records associated with the club were discontinued and a new club, Airdrie United FC, took over. Airdrieonians' official history ended in 2002, then Airdrie United's took over.
The answer lies principally in the eye of the beholder. Some supporters will view the new Rangers as the same Rangers, while others will feel the old Rangers no longer exist.

Just the same thing as what happened at celtic just after fergus took over when celtic were at deaths door.he changed celtics name from celtic football and athletic club to celtic fc plc and re-registered with different company number at companies house however carried on in fans eyes as same football club because quite rightly it is the corporate side that has/is changed not the football club ie rfc as a football club were formed 27years before the company/corporate side was but there was no difference to football side of club as far as history was concerned. {Ed007's Note - What the hell is wrong with some people? Do you struggle to read or understand the basic English language? I'm fed up explaining this, so for the last time, PLEASE READ AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND IT, it really isn't that difficult, I have explained to other (ex)Rangers fans and they understand it:

The Celtic Football and Athletic Company Ltd

I think when you have been asked the same question about six times in a few days it’s worth
explaining the issue here. If a football club is liquidated it’s finished. Continuity with
its history and records ends. This is not the same as a football company changing its name.

Celtic was established as a sporting club at a meeting in a church hall in November 1887,
in many ways, no different than a million other football, karate and badminton clubs.

It subsequently registered with the SFA in 1888. In April 1897 it incorporated as a private
limited company, registering as The Celtic Football and Athletic Company Ltd at Companies
House. It was the 3487 th company to register in Scotland and was given the incorporation
number SC003487.

In 1994 the company became a public limited company and changed its name to Celtic PLC but, of course, remained the same company, with the same incorporation number and retained the same registration with the SFA. You can check our corporate history, from incorporation in 1879, to name change in 1994 to our most recent annual return, dated 31 December 2011 (or relevant year), at Companies House.

On the same day Celtic changed its name to Celtic PLC, Fergus McCann changed the name of an off the shelf company, securing the old trading name ‘The Celtic Football and Athletic Company Ltd’, which is fully owned by Celtic PLC, but is not registered as a football club.

I assume this was to secure our old name for the club and to protect it from potential abuse

Ed a know you wont post my original reply as you dont post anything that does not conform to your /celtic point of view however on a point of balance you might consider opening your eyes to the other side of the argument. {Ed007's Note - What a very strange thing to post. I have absolutely no idea who you are apart from some moaning faced sod who doesn't even have the decency to leave a name. *rolls eyes*

Or perhaps telling us what the other side of the argument is rather than just stating there is one and as Ed states, put your name to your post so we can identify your posts.

K-Dot.

Hi Ed - how's things? Just noticed you having another 'rolling eyes' moment with another poster who merely posted an opinion (be it correct or otherwise). As a Bluenose I must admit this 'little' point about history doesn't cut it - either way I've stated that the next title 'Zombie' Rangers (as you so glibbly refer to) will be celebrated - be it the FIRST of a new era or (in many people's eyes) the FIFTY-FIFTH. If all history is consigned to the dustbin (so to speak) that means that all bad points are also consigned to the same bin. With that in mind will all the posters on this sight still refer to us as 'the Shame, Hectors, etc? No-one can have it both ways eh...by the way I must say that despite all our problems I've really found this website to be excellent entertainment value - whether I agree with the posts or not and you (when you're being level-headed) add to the general entertainment and poignant discussions. keep it up pal :) {Ed007's Note - Thanks, but it wasn't an opinion he posted, he posted it as a fact, a very wrong fact.}

Hopefully it all becomes academic and the SPL & SFL refuse a newco entry into any leagues. Then the name of Glasgow rangers will be consigned to the history books of Scottish football alongside getna, Clydebank, airdrie & third lanark

Ed in the grand scheme of things who cares about their history....that was the OLD Rangers...they will still try to put their stupid 5 stars on their new club shirt....

Theres a different airdrie united was a new club the new rangers is a new company the club part of rangers is not liquidating only the buisness side part made in 1899
Rangers FC formed 1872. Rangers PLC incorporated 1899. Our history goes back to 1872. The PLC is being liquidated not the football club.

Or they dont come back and everyone is happy

ED7 you are obviously too clever for this site. I notice you have issues with bears too, perhaps you should calm down and stop insulting people, to my mind you are the only ED that acts in this way. Also the only kind of people who roll their eyes are wee girls or man bitches. Which are you ?. cat. {Ed007's Note - Maybe I don't suffer idiots as easier as others. Nobody is forcing you to read it, e-mail in a complaint to give me a laugh.}

Ed no offense but it doesnt matter wat u say wen stv bbc and administrators that are court bound not to lie have said tht rangers newco will keep there history but it wont be the same even if the nxt titles is number 55 there will always be people who restart at 1 {Ed007's Note - LMFAO yeah you believe that. How is Rangers case suing BBC going? Don't believe the hype.............}

If BBC were being held to that not lying mallarkey Fat Traynor would be in a bit of bother. The other night on Sportsound he claimed that he had been saying he always said that RFC would be liquidated.

Maybe its a Daily Rectum thing? Off the Radar Jackson has been telling us lately how he always knew Whyte was a con man.

The real issue is not so much about their history but how society as whole will remember them

Ed iam green through and through i dont bite and neither should you, that rolling eyes thing is quite girly though,.,.kbarry {Ed007's Note - Us editors need to roll our eyes and shake our heads at some of the complete garbage we have to read time and time again. How many times has the CFC name change been covered on here and the Rangers site. If people can't understand it then it is not our fault, it is as simple as that. I am not here to humour nameless little Gilfnards or trolls. There is a search function on the site so why do people need to ask the same idiotic questions over and over again?}

13 Jun 2012 13:11:31
Chris McGlauglin(sp?)..the BBC guy, saying on t**tter that we are lining up alternatives to Forster if he keeps prannying around. Boruc, Gordon and Paul Robinson are being mentioned.

TerribleBeauty

13 Jun 2012 10:09:08
Hi Ed. I know this isnt a rumour but thought you would be the best person to ask as you seem to deal in facts and not bulls**t!

Couple of the rangers fans in the work were saying even if they do go to a newco then they still get to keep all the history and can still claim to be the most successfull club side in the world, can yu please confirm if they are correct? {Ed007's Note - Rangers will keep their history, you can't change that but there will be no Rangers to carry it on. There will be no continuity of their trophy history, if Zombie Rangers won the league next year that would be the new club's first trophy. Rangers past is now exactly that, the past.}

My understanding is that it's the corporate side (plc) that has been liqudated and therefore they keep there history

There is a quote on the BBC from D&P saying that they will retain the continuity of there histoty as the club is continuing and it is Rangers PLC that is going out of business! I have no idea how this makes any sense

JGD

ED007, on CQN they give a brilliant analogy of "newco" via Trigger on Only Fools and Horses..
Apparently Trigger had been telling everyone he had the same broom for 20 years and when Rodney challenged it, trigger said "its had 17 new shafts fitted, and 10 new boom heads, but it is still the SAME BROOM! Timalloy

Thank you ed that has been my argument iv got this page printed out and is all round the work

The only way for Rangers history to change is if the SFA confirm they have cheated with the EBT's and recind titles....that would be perfect !

13 Jun 2012 11:37:22
Celtic starlet Victor Wanyama is a target for a host of Premier League clubs and is hopeful of sealing a move to England this summer, Sly Spurts understands.

Liverpool, Stoke City, Queens Park Rangers, Newcastle and West Ham United are all interested in landing the Kenyan midfielder.

Wanyama joined Celtic last summer from Belgian side Beerschot AC but his impact has been huge at Parkhead.

Celtic paid less than £1million for the 20-year-old but now a fee in excess of £6million is being talked about for Wanyama.

Clubs in Italy, Spain and France have all been impressed by Wanyama, but he is understood to be keen on a move to the Premier League.

Now Wanyama is ready to move from Celtic and his business manager Rob Moore has explained that he hopes the club would listen to offers if they came.

"That has been a lot of talk which is not necessarily true," Moore explained to Sly Spurts.

"But he is like any other young talented footballer in that he wants to play at the highest level.

"He has made the club aware that if they receive an offer from one of the big leagues he would like them to consider it.

"He is not unhappy at Celtic, far from it - he loves the club and everything has been great for him since he moved but should something come in he feels they should listen."

Jungle Bhoy.