Celtic Rumours Archive November 11 2012

11 Nov 2012 19:35:17
really think people need 2 stop using this tiredness crap as an excuse for poor league performances the barca game was 4 days ago thers been plenty time for a rest how many times hav we played in uefa cup/europa league on a thu nte and stil came bak n won on a sun we looked flat today n lacked ideas same as most home league games this season imo. These r professionals thers something wrong if they cant motivate themselves from a champions league game 2 a league game 4 days later sorry but thers no excuses obv people wont agree but thats upto yous we all hav our own opinion just fed up of hearing tiredness as an excuse for a poor league result coz its utter sh1te

gunniebhoy

The manager says the Barca game took a lot out of the players 'physically & mentally' unless your part of that squad you'll never know what effects they are feeling. Maybe they had a right good drink on Wednesday night, and rightly so. I'm not overly concerned, the players know they don't have rangers breathing down their neck anymore, the league is a formality, it's just a matter of time. Don't stress. Remember we've just beat Barcelona. Ian L

The league is a formality lol, when was the last league win ian?

We beat barca so well done but we lost to the not so mighty killie drew 2 each after being 2 -0 up against a poor dundee utd team and now draw with this poor st johnstone team great at this rate we will be joining rangers in the league sooner rather then later when we get relagated come on 2 pts from 9 no good enough and just 1pt from last 2 homes games not looking forward to the aberdeen game lets hope they take it easy on us

Ian rangers hav nothin 2 do with it wether theyr in our league or not celtic should be goin out 2 win every single game league or cup thats how we r and as for the barca game as an excuse whats the excuse for killie at home hibs at home struggling 2 beat aberdeen at home droppin 2 late goals last week against dundee utd ross county away st johnstone away? that coz of the barca game aswel ? the league form rite now is not good enough for celtic simple. Respect ur oppinion tho mate

gunniebhoy

Poor wee souls. Sorry, they are professional footballers paid large sums of money to do a job of work (which many of us would climb over hot coals to play for the privilage not the cash). The people who turn up are spending their hard earned cash to support these guys and deserve better than this. What you are going to see soon is people packing the ground for the European matches and then not bothering with the league matches - Match the same attitude of the players. Not a healthy situation and NL needs to shake a few heads! Not acceptable.

Mate, shut up short lol, aye the barca game was 4 days ago but you clearly don't realise that the tiredness kicks in like hell days after especially when you run for so long. It ain't just the barca game its the whole season that's hitting us now since we,ve played way more than everyone else ie, champions league qualifiers and pointless intl friendlies, practically our whole squad leave for these friendlies or qualifiers and do some amount a travelling, also flying over to America n back for the real game so its bound to catch up! The boys need a rest so stop acting like a part time supporter

Gunniebhoy you are 100% correct there should be no excuses for repeated bad performances in the league afterall thats how you get to the champions league.I cannot stand this crap about being tired playing more than 1 game a week.There are people out there working 2 or 3 jobs 18 hour days to make ends meet.They have a lot more reason to feel tired than pampered footballers that cannot perform in a proper and professional manner for more than 90mins a week.This does not make me or any other Celtic supporters with the same opinion a part time supporter or not a true supporter it is purely a fact.

It s not only phsical tiredness but mental and emotional as well ,most of this group havent played at cl level and are having to take their game up several levels to get the performances we are seeing at this year and i think for the whole picture you have to look at the support also , full stadium display 140 decibels of noise cheering every tackle like a goal and generally going crazy, and those who cant go to games for whatever reason doing similar at work or home , was it like that yesterday , we would all like to see a better performance but maybe it is like described (a hangover)where everybody fans inluded turn up with the best will in the world but just cant get started,,,,,deep river bhoy

2 the guy that told me 2 shut up haha no name left so ur post means fk all am no just talkin about the barca game wit about st johnstone away ross county away hibs at home killie at home that tiredness catchin up aswel aye ? stop talkin out yer hoop and as for me actin like a part time supporter a was ther on wed and ther yesterday and am goin 2 lisbon a pay ma money so am entilted 2 voice ma oppinion

gunniebhoy

gunniebhoy

If we were not doing so well in Europe, we would be looking for Lennons head for poor domestic results

Forget this league is a formality, because poor football drives people away. I myself missed the weekend how many more did? fine for big nights but the football needs to attract domestically

Don't really get this part-time supporter carry-on. Just because you go to more games than someone doesn't mean anything. I don't have the kind of job I can just demand to get every weekend off and leave early during the week when I feel like it to go to the football. Would imagine there are many more like myself but we end up spending the same money as them. Even if I can't get to a cup game I still buy the ticket then give to a family member or friend.

If you want to start counting yourself better than other supporters maybe you should be on the other lot's forum, that is their mentality.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and the respect of other supporters.

Hail hail.

Explain how the barca game took it out the players a few days before it even started when we lost to dundee utd ??

To the post - the league is a formality. Have you seen how every team in Div 3 is treating the Rangers/Servco/Zombies game as a cup final? Wll, smell the roses, so are the SPL teams when it comes to Celtic. Yes, we are right up there but we should be on top with plenty of points to spare - we are not! These players are 24 hour professionals. They do not do anything else for a living but play for Celtic. Some of the results have been nothing short of disgraceful. I love the European nights and the great results but the league will always be our bread and butter. We are in a situation where we should be looking at as a minimum 3-4 years qualifying for CL (qualifying stages anyway) Lets not blow it. We effectively have 2 teams, if Eurpose is tiring then change some players.

11 Nov 2012 18:06:38
If the Lisbon Lions/Quality Street Kids had been so sluggish/inconsistent/complacent - whatever the reasons for the dissappointing SPL form during European runs; we would never have, had the 9-in-a-row.
MON and WGS teams also did well balancing the two.
I appreciate the young squad, but we are Champions and should relish the role and the expectation/desire that goes with the territory.
We are even losing points at home frequently - and that is totally unacceptable and our points tally so far is way short of previous standards and performances.
Obviously the Barcelona game was a huge 'High' and would drain them mentally and physically for a while but we should have the squad to cope and the winning mentality and fight to put a decent run of wins together no matter the opposition.

Jungle Jim

The lisbon lions could have gone toe to toe with barcalona , this squad has only one or two who would get into that teams squad let alone starting eleven so imo an unfair comparison , we also are playing without hooper and stokes who are our two top scorers and with the bhoy lassad injured it makes it hard to freshen up the forward line.i dont like seeing us draw or lose but can accept it more if its after hard fought euro victories/draws that help us progress in cl,,,,deep river bhoy

Totally agree with this post. Well said. Hbhoy

Good post. The Lions also made a point of winning every trophy they entered for. They did not have anywhere near the same facilities, training & medical staff, travel/accommodation set-up that is available to the players now. There have been so many opportunities to field more younger players and still get the points. Is it only Scots teams who are mentally and physically exhausted after one massive game? Sorry, the teams in the EPL seem to manage fine. Yes they have bigger and better quality squads in most cases but look at their opposition every week. Horses for courses and we should, all things being equal, be able to take care of the StMirrens and Killies (no offence but you must see my point).

11 Nov 2012 16:42:02
I'm sick to death of crap performances after European nights it's about time this team started focusing on the bread and butter of the league. Starting lineup looked far too tired. I don't think the depth of squad is good enough!

pfb79

This league will be no walkover as some fans think the other teams in the spl this year seem more hungry its adds to a better competition this season never take the league title for granted

I think the OP is wrong, I think the depth of the squad is good the problem is NL doesn't use it.

I think that after the outstanding result mid week some of the squad needed a rest.

I feel ( just my opinion ) tht w should have given more people a chance today as they would all have been depirate to show that they were good enough to get a start in the next european game.

Playing the guys that played mid week was a wrong decision......in my opinion

JGD

Complete lazzyness from the players 5 points dropped before and after europe these players are starting to look like glory hunters and not interested in the spl ( the games that fans pay season tickets for that pays their wages ) is 90 min work to much to ask for the money these guys get paid if their not going to perform drop them and bring on some kids the game after europe

If the team from wed nte had been rested and we still didnt get a result then we would have been moanin that so many 1st team wer missing tbh thers no excuses. Tiredness ? the game was 4 days ago thers been plenty time for rest these r profession footballers paid tens of thousands every week stop blaming tiredness wer we tired against kilmarnock ? or hibs ? such an easy excuse

gunniebhoy

12 games played 6 games won, if rangers were still here neil lennon would be on thin ice!

Other spl teams arent really performing much better it has just been an abysmal start to the campaign!

11 Nov 2012 12:33:34
Alright Ed,been on hols for last month,anything happen whilst i've been away?lol.Only joking!What a night at CP on wed,i had loads of Barca fans congratulating us and a lot of love from the Madrid fans out here in Tenerife.Celtic have shown the world how to beat Barca.To me it was similar to Muhammed Ali's Rope-A-Dope tactics.We could never play Barca on their terms so Lenny found a way to frustrate them and i can see other teams following suit.The display before the game was something else and i have to congratulate the GB,they done our club proud.

Jungle Bhoy.

You mean di matteo found a way of beating them and lennon copied them? all this barca the best team in the world pish what did they win last year?

feeny87 {Ed007's Note - Still on the sour grapes I see.}