Celtic Rumours Archive September 10 2011

 

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10 Sep 2011 23:31:39
A new page on here and it's called Conspiracy talk? Was that made by celtic fans for celtic fans? Come on, own up Ed007

Kudos for acknowledging the Parkhead Paranoia Brigade though lol {Ed007's Note - We set it up to cover the legality of discussing Rangers finances, and the source of mystery £9 million bids.}

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Speaking of conspiracy, am I the only one that thinks it was a stone wall penalty, Davies got away with swinging an elbow and ESPN commentary team all appears to have Rangers blinkers on?

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10 Sep 2011 23:25:04
Ed, how overweight is kris commons? {Ed007's Note - I don't think McGinn is away on loan, I think Commons ate him!}

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He's never been a skinny guy like e.g Stokes but definitely did put on the beef over summer. I don't see how an extra stone or whatever would turn him from a goalscorer to a liability though. IMO some time out to regain his form and get back to last season's weight might be good for him, but in his defence I also think he needs to be played on the left rather than the right. Showed one or two decent touches today. Going to be a tough choice next week though as Forrest ran the game today.

Personally I'd take a gamble and start with the same midfield next week. Feck Brown and Commons - they've been off the boil and their replacements in Ki and Forrest haven't put a foot wrong (IMO Ki is our player of the season so far by a country mile).

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I heard Commons is suffering with an injury to his foot since end of last season that's why he's a bit over weight and out of form.

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Don't know why Commons came out an said he was going to bulk up over the summer. Was pretty stocky as it was last year and didn't seem to get knocked of the ball too easily.

Still if he finishes the season with as many goals as last season that'll do me.

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10 Sep 2011 22:05:28
evening ed.just wondering,dont know if this has been asked before,but if rangers have to pay the BIG tax bill,for what then becomes illegal payments,or bonuses,to players,should they not then be stripped of any trophies won during that period?would that make their 9 in a row null and void?could clubs that they put out of europe in various competitions in those years then raise court actions against them?could,liam brady and lou macari raise court actions against them? {Ed007's Note - I would be totally embarrassed for CFC if anything like that happened and it had anything to do with our club. Teams that have received punishments like that were found guilty of match-fixing. Let's not allow ourselves to be blinded by the sun here and try to take away from them to cover our clubs failings over the years. Just wait and see how it pans out from here. John 8:32}

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I just dont understand it.we were so poor back then that pollok juniors could have taken points off us.so why the need to use underhand tactics to get quality players to play for them?

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This sion case has got you mind into overdrive!!

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10 Sep 2011 19:40:50
Don't know if anyone has posted the link for Martin Bain's court papers.Makes for interesting reading once you get passed the first few pages.

www.mediafire.com/?paqbaen9ozn6zp7

It's a pdf file but opens no problem.What do you make of it ed?

Jungle Bhoy. {Ed007's Note - I read it this morning, nothing in it surprised me, just really confirmed what I have been saying for months.}

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Paragraph 8 makes some very interesting reading.

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If anyone knows how bad it is then it would be a guy who was there for years.He must have known Rangers were heading for this.Things like a tax case don't just appear out of mid air. Personally,i don't want Rangers to fold but maybe freefall to the third division would be nice for a few years.lol.The Old Firm need each other but a few years without most of the BS attached to the clubs would be a welcome break.

Jungle Bhoy. {Ed007's Note - The current 2.8 million tax case dates backs twelve years, I hardly think anyone can dismiss Bain's knowledge of what was going on.}

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Bain is afraid of rangers future , he should know even though whyte sacked him! Letters are 100% its time people realised this............AS

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Yo ho ho, off we go
What do you know, it will be 10 in a row
Bye bye Rangers
Celtic's on the ball again, on the way to make it ten
Bye bye Rangers

You can talk about your great defenders
Sing and shout about your No Surrender
But let us give you this wee tip
We'll be invited to the epl
Rangers bye bye

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Ha ha your song is brilliant, and again unsigned. anyway well done the unknown songwriter hail hail Timalloy

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Sorry timalloy...i keep thinkin when its asks for name in 'post ur text' that my name comes up. cant take the credit for the song as its an old celtic song...just 'remixed' :) ....from sparkybhoy :) HH

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10 Sep 2011 19:31:25
If Rangers go into administration on Monday will they be deducted points ? That's what happened to Dundee and Livingston eh
MG69

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They will be. It's the only deterrent the league have.

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Don't worry. Referees will still ensure that rangers win the league.

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I am pretty sure that there is no point penalty for administration in the SPL. Dundee and Livingston's were enforced by the SFL
Hammy1888

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Why is every body so concerned about rangers,if rangers folded ,we wont be far behind them, remember both teams need each other thats a fact guys.

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Agree with post above, a am a gers fan tho if we supposedly go under then were would our rivals go? it would affect the whole 11 teams in the spl

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Wanted to check,the celtic page is all about rangers lol use cant get anuff lol

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Lol, if Rangers got points deducted, that's the only way Celtic would win the league, i can see you all praying for this to happen.

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Were Motherwell deducted points when they went into Administration?
I would imagine whatever happened to them would therefore happen to Rangers. {Ed007's Note - Dundee and Motherwell were both in administration when the SPL brought the ruling in for the 2004/05 season. Both clubs were told that if they weren't out of administration by a certain date (May 31st???) they would face a six point deduction for the following season, they met the target and avoided deductions. The SFA do not allow clubs in administration to play in Europe and there is a 10 point deduction for any club who now go into administration.}

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10 Sep 2011 19:28:28
{Ed007's Note - To whom ever sent in the link for 'The Whyte Knight' video, I don't know what happened to your link to Scotzine??? Here is the video anyway. I saw it the other day lol:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwhYl_o27og

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10 Sep 2011 18:50:55
here big chap did you no get ma famuly fortune blug earliur? {Ed007's Note - Iv'e put it in the CFC News Section Pat, if you want to add to it.}

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10 Sep 2011 18:45:44
just a thought. If Rangers do go bust shouls we hold a benefit match at Parkhead?

David

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Rangers wont go bust,our fans have serious money between them and would never let this happen

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10 Sep 2011 17:28:02
Ed - what was the badge being worn on the Celtic jerseys today? {Ed007's Note - It is the emblem of the Celtic Charity Fund.}

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10 Sep 2011 17:03:31
Any news in what this big announcement was yet?


Junglebhoy33

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Aye,Celtic to win the league by Christmas.

fatbhoy67.HH.

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Rangers would need to get beat for that to happen

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10 Sep 2011 16:41:20
Jelavic could be out of old firm (hopefull)

James1888

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Supposedly it'll be touch and go and if he plays he'll almost certainly be doing it through injury or at risk of injury. My guess is that he'll get the last 30 min if they need a goal.

Sometimes these stories around OF matches are utter rubbish spun by one club or the other to alter tactical plans etc. It's quite possible he'll be ruled fit without question and they're just taking advantage of the international break to rest him and taking a gamble at Dundee United.

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I would definitely take this story with a pinch of salt! It seems before every Old Firm game Rangers star man is out and somehow makes a miraculous recovery, or a top Celtic player is leaving. Lost count of the amount of times Boruc was leaving before Old Firm games

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10 Sep 2011 16:03:55
1st time poster just watching the game forrest having a great game new boy at left back looks the part as well

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Yeah big season for forrest i think to get a regular spot and left back looked really comfortable but motherwell didn't do much today.

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10 Sep 2011 14:59:59
Radio Clyde commenting that rumours are circulating that Rangers are going into administration on Monday and it will be in tomorrow's papers.

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10 Sep 2011 13:36:28
Dear Ed, as all Celtic fans know today is the anniversary of Jock Stein, who died 10 September 1985, I hope all fans no matter who they support will take time out to remember what big Jock achieved, not only for Cetic Football Club but for the sport in general. hail hail Neil T
Lisbon Lions Simpson, Craig, Gemmell, Murdoch McNeil, Clark, Johnstone, Wallace, Chalmers, Auld and Lennox. Manager Jock Stein {Ed007's Note - Well said Neil. HH}

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10 Sep 2011 13:30:58
any links for todays game

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10 Sep 2011 14:01:13
Buy channel 67 like the rest of us

Ok use www.soccertvlive.net/

DazzaBhoy

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10 Sep 2011 13:23:11
ed have you heard anything about a major anouncement this afternoon {Ed007's Note - Isn't Peter Lawwell in Mexico this weekend? Would they make a major announcement without him?}

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10 Sep 2011 10:42:31
A major announcement will be made after the Celtic v motherwell , it is expected to be naming rights to the stadium, 888.com has been mentioned, but I have my doubts. Stevie bhoy.

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Not sure how I feel if this was to happen. If there's a decent revenue to be made and it was invested then it should be explored.

Ed- Do you know what sort of money could be made from this if it was to be correct? {Ed007's Note - I have absolutely no idea and couldn't even guess TBH. There are so many factors that would be considered.}

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We hear about this happening at lots of clubs nowadays. I imagine it's only when it happens at your club that you feel the impact of it. I'd be gutted if Celtic Park were to be renamed 888.com stadium or anything else for that matter.

Having said that, it'll always be Paradise to me. HAIL HAIL

ChrisBhoy {Ed007's Note - Chris if any announcement is anything like that, it's only a name and could bring in a lot of money. It will always be Celtic Park or 'Parkhead' to the fans. It is just a form of advertising.}

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Delta airlines, (delta arena) also hearing they are going to dome the stadium Steve

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My view is that if Celtic aspires (and actually claims with the charitable donations) to be socially responsible then this must be reflected in the messages we give out. For example having a Brewer as our main shirt sponsor shows a lack of class at best and is socially irresponsible at worst. If we make a million a year out of it, in fact if we make millions a year out of it in my opinion its just not acceptable and its not just a name as the Ed says when referring to 888.com as a possible stadium name. (not having a go Ed). Drink and gambling should have no place in any sport, least of all being linked to my beloved Hoops. Ps not a priest. Sopot Celt {Ed007's Note - I have to disagree with you, the money these companies put into sport is astronomical, with Anheuser-Busch (Budweiser), Carlsberg and betting company BWin amongst the top 10 investors in football. SSN is also geared towards getting people to gamble using SkyBet. Footballers drink, footballers gamble as do a large majority of the fans that go to games. It is good advertising for them and money for the clubs or football in general. Budweiser have been sponsoring World Cups for around 25 years now, their money and sponsorships are needed to keep football going.}

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I respect your opinion Ed, however I disagree. One of the reasons player costs spiral and the wages ever increase is directly attributable to the large amounts of money that is poured into sport by these big sponsors. It is one of the ills of the game that footballers are now seen as commodities and appear in many cases to have no loyalty to fans or clubs. Big money encourages and is in many ways at the root of many of our problems. Particularly with Celtic because this kind of sponsorship and big TV money reduces our competitive advantage ie that of a large and passionate support. (the thing which used to make football clubs what they are). Further tobacco advertising was stopped due to the ill-health effects caused by the promotion of these products. Why is Beer acceptable when cigarettes are not? Alcohol misuse causes untold misery in Scotland and the fact that it appears socially acceptable to advertise Beer does not make it right. The fact that football fans booze and smoke and gamble may just have something to do with the fact that they are subject to the most powerful and sophisticated methods of advertising with all the subtle and not so subtle suggestive psychological influences that humankind can muster bombarding them. This then does induces people (fans as they are the target) and encourages them to drink gamble and smoke more than they would otherwise have done. Lets not kid ourselves advertising works otherwise why would the big company's spend the money. Dont get me started on World Cups and revenues we all know where the cream of that money goes. Straight into the pockets of the Swiss mafioso who run football.

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Whilst I agree with you (poster) that in an ideal world we would turn down money from brewery's etc this is just not realistic or sensible. You are correct that the vast sums of money in the game are part of the wider problem with football but Celtic cannot stand in splendid isolation against this sort of commercialism. You could say that in saying this Im lacking in some way morally but I'd remind you of the Queens Park experience when they clung to remaining an amateur side due to a perceived sence this was the right thing to do. The result is they ultimately became largely irrelevant as a team as it was a stand they took alone. Thats not something I'd like to see happen to Celtic and I for one think that Celitc do much good in terms of community and charity work that could not be acheived without keeping the club financially viable. The good therefore outweighs the bad, and lets be realistic, alcohol and gambling are widely advertised and I'm not likely to suddenly start drinking just because its on a hoops top. I might however try the brand of drink over one I already enjoy. Paul

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Thanks for your comments Paul. Its helpful that these things are discussed. I dont see the connection with the Queens Park experience and the condoning and encouragement of alcohol consumption and gambling by our club. It was interesting for all that so thanks again. I am aware that extra cash flow and other capital income streams become ever more important we could as a club consider other types of sponsors. Its not as if gambling and drinking sponsors are the only sponsors in existence. Please also dont mention morality to me as I fail on many counts and it might even drive me to drink!! :) SopotCelt

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10 Sep 2011 10:37:28
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10 Sep 2011 00:39:23
Mo Bangura wants to be out of Celtic within a year

Scottish S*n {Ed007's Note - Rag.}

Without wanting to start a riot why wouldn't the boy want to be out of Celtic within a year. if he has any ambition what so ever he will wanting to be playing for a major EPL team. Jelavic has publicly stated he hoped to have done enough within 2 years at rangers to get into a top Epl team i dont realy care if he does as long as he does well for us during that 2 years and we make some serious cash from the sale.

its about time Rangers and Celtic fans realised that we may be big clubs when it comes to support but when it comes to Football, transfer market, and salaries we are Minnows and feeder clubs for almost any Epl team and even some championship clubs. ffs guys we got well and truly pumped by Malmo,maribor and sion. i know it hurts to admit this as i feel like crying while i type these words as to see the state of the Mighty Glasgow Rangers and the Mighty Glasgow Celtic are in. not so long ago teams like Man Utd and Barcelona dreaded coming to Celtic Park or Ibrox now teams like St Johnston and Caley thistle come with no fear.

Tony {Ed007's Note -I agree with you Tony, and have done all along over this. Players come here to make an impact and get a big money move. Bangura was answering a question, if he was successful and a big money offer came in it would be up to the club. He didn't just come out and say he wanted to leave next year. Come on Tony mate, you aren't that naive to believe the S*n over anything? They will hound both of our clubs and twist what they want just to make a headline. If big offers came in for any our players or Rangers' then they will leave, hence the non existence of any crazy bid for Jelavic.}

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I have no doubt the press twisted the boys words but some of our fans in OF cant see how low we both have slipped in football terms as for Jelavic bid who knows the only thing that makes it slightly believable is when it supposedly came in. it would not have gave Rangers any time to bring in a replacement plus who wants that amount of cash sitting there when HMRC is sniffing around LOL

Tony {Ed007's Note - It's back to the same old story, big fish in a small pond Tony. I think we could be in for a couple of very interesting years in football as a whole.}

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Just look at Ajax and Feyenoord in Holland once feared throughout Europe, they have realised and acceopted that they are feeder clubs for the European Giants and make a small fortune doing so. The sooner we in Scotland accept the same the better

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If that is his aim great it means if he wants to achieve this goal he needs to be outstanding and score loads if goals then we can sell him for a huge profit. Both Celtic and the young lad will be winners. Do not see what the problem is?Ǩ if we want to attract high achieving youngsters we might have to get used to this scenario at least in the short term till our stock in Europe begins to rise again. ~alba free~

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How many players have said what Bangura has; I want to play in Spain, Italy or England? Tons. And what Mohammed said was he believes he will learn enough at Celtic to be good enough to play in one of those leagues within a year.
Also, many players have come to Celtic, knowing they were playing for a "Big Name" in football, but not realising how big the club is, and the passion that is created by The Faithful. And players that felt Celtic was nothing more than a stepping stone, end up part of the culture.
Now, if Bangura wants a move then in order to get it, he has to play exceedingly well; how will that be anything but a benefit for us?
The garbage the red tops have come out with is nothing more than trying to even up the score as scores of Govanites will follow follow their club's example, like sheeps, and take the huff with the papers that reported on their team's less than stellar book keeping.
2-0 The Celts, and we sound rampant today!

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Bring it ON...let him be that good he attracts Barcalona yeah !!

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10 Sep 2011 10:35:30
just watching james beattie on soccer a.m. and i honestly dont know why he didnt fit in at the piggery,cos he seems thick as shwhyte.looking ahead to next weeks visit across the city,lets go and play them off the park.we ARE the better team.hail hail

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The better team who's won 1 trophy in the last 3 seasons... aye if you say so pal

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10 Sep 2011 00:39:23
Mo Bangura wants to be out of Celtic within a year

Scottish S*n {Ed007's Note - Rag.}

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Big shock, our new signing wants to leave already, we've never seen a story like that before.

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No surprise stories like this starting to circulate.couldnt be coz an old firm games on the horizon,could it?

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10 Sep 2011 00:29:02
a top european sports law expert believes sion do have a case according to the scottish s*n website {Ed007's Note - Online rag.}

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