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04 Apr 2019 13:49:24
Ed you kev were discussing strict liability for clubs but am sure I read that nearly a million punters have been through our turnstiles and up until Sun we only had 12 arrests mainly for Bevvy. so you can see why we don't want it why should the majority be punished for a couple a halfwits.

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04 Apr 2019 14:37:13
Mally the club are going to have to react for next season as tensions will only increase over next year and beyond. Looking purely at our club we've had at least 3 incidents of fans on trackside on Sunday, Murrayfield fans spilled on to trackside, Kilmarnock fans on trackside we've had coin throwing in Europe and at Killie and possibly on Sunday past. Pyro has been lit and thrown on pitches on numerous occasions this season. Other clubs have issues some bigger problems some less but if clubs are to avoid strict liability being forced on them then stricter rules and punishment must be considered by Celtic, it's starting to be common place leaving the stands to celebrate. It is certainly a minority problem but not a couple as you state sadly.

{Ed007's Note - Nobody can force Strict Liability on us, Jim. The clubs would need to agree with it and vote on it.

I provided a link to The Herald below, here's one from Nil By Mouth:

www.nilbymouth.org/2018/opinion-blog-beyond-the-obf-act/

"If we are serious about tackling this problem we need politicians, from all parties, to force the SFA and SPFL to introduce UEFA’s ‘Strict Liability’ guidelines into the Scottish game."

And STV: www.stv.tv/sport/football/1432464-strict-liability/

"Change in Scotland would, effectively, have to come from clubs. Both the Scottish FA and SPFL are organisations run by their members and the will of the members would be needed to change the rules."

I don't know where people get the idea that anyone can force Strict Liability on to the clubs, it just seems to be a couple of buzz words people are using without understanding the situation. The clubs voted 41-1 against it in 2013 and here is an article about a survey the BBC conducted last month where only 3 clubs were for it - Celtic didn't comment:

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47646210

04 Apr 2019 15:31:02
I appreciate it can’t be forced on clubs but incidents are becoming more common and pressure is likely to be applied. That’s why I think individual clubs need to act as something will need to be done as tensions and incidents are escalating as we near 9/ 10 in a row. Out of interest Ed do you have any thoughts on dealing with fan misdemeanours or are you for leaving things to go as they are? Personally I don’t have faith in spfl or sfa to be tackling this and that’s why I would prefer our club to tackle this head on ourself.

{Ed007's Note - I'd change the rules to let pyro into grounds - Celtic themselves let of fireworks etc when presenting trophies - and there's no problems in other leagues - so why not? Everything else is already covered by the law so there's never been any need for things like the OBFA etc. It's up to the police to enforce the laws that are already in place, if you enter the field of play you will be arrested and probably banned, if 30 guys enter the field of play why aren't there 30 arrests and bans?
Do fans really care if their club get fined the £9K which UEFA fined us for the guy that ran on at Mbappe? £9000, I certainly don't.
If there's 50,000 TRIFC fans singing The Famine Song or TBB, arrest 10 or 20 of them, the next week do the same and keep doing it until it stops. If there's any trouble then you bring in the riot police to do the job and they'll soon get the message.}

04 Apr 2019 17:47:42
No pyro no party 🎉 ed 😏.

{Ed007's Note - 👍

04 Apr 2019 17:51:03
There's a time and place for pitch invasions, when we stopped 10 and when we reach 10 would be completely understandable. To attack a player is persongery. Throwing coins and other missiles is bang out of order and they should get a lifetime ban if caught.

04 Apr 2019 20:28:20
I just don't get this need for pyros, this craving to see the air polluted with more chemicals, this need, this want, this lust to light something, this madness, . Or am I the one that's wrong?, Ed maybe you could have a poll on it, just to see how many support, or are against pyros, the question:
Do you think pyros should be part of the match day experience?

{Ed007's Note - We'd need to be clearer, does this count as "part of the match day experience", our own Club polluting the air with chemicals etc or is it only fans you don't want to use them?

04 Apr 2019 20:53:43
That skelator pyro display is my favourite
Looks awesome
Don’t hurl them On the pitch but.

{Ed007's Note - I agree with that, throwing anything on the park isn't on.}

04 Apr 2019 22:15:22
Well, I don't know, put the question, "should pyros only be organised by the club and no one else", yes or no, answer to the poll.

{Ed007's Note - I'll get on it tomorrow morning when I'm at my computer 👍

04 Apr 2019 22:24:26
The over the top policing is antagonising fans and maximising their worse behaviour . Fans and stewards should co- operate to ensure everyone has a safe and enjoyable experience at football matches .
Cops insist on large scale policing in order to get massive overtime each month.
The more police you put in an enclosed area the more likely fans will missbehave . It doesn't take a big strong or brave lout to throw something on to pitch and no matter what is thrown someone somewhere will be badly hurt . Co- operation between fans and stewards would mean no idiot would get away with it .

05 Apr 2019 01:19:43
Polluting the air lol. Jesus Christ I've heard it all.

I take it you walk to all the games and to your work so you don't pollute the air?

You do realise depending how smoke bombs are made that they can be non toxic etc?

Less harmful than you breathing out CO2?

It shows when people come out with the most ridiculous excuses that they can barely find a legit reason why they detest pyro so much.

Most aren't dangerous. Same mob that call our rebel songs sectarian when they aren't. Just following a media narrative.







 

 

 
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