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16 Feb 2019 08:51:25
Looking at our starting XI against Valencia. Ask which players you see as long term solutions in their positions

Bain - No
Toljan - No
Boyata -No
Simunovic - No
Izzy - No
Brown - No
McGregor - Yes
Christie - Potential, yes
Forrest - Yes
Sinclair - Yes
Burke - Not our player

Bench or injured key guys
Benkovic - not our player
Tierney - Yes
Lustig - No
Eddie - Yes but needs big improvements
Gordon - No
Ajer - potential
Ntcham - Yes

So really you see the huge rebuilding task we have here. Cos even the players who are part of future, many are still very much learning.

Only about 3 or 4 players would you say are ready

Even then their is inconsistencies like Sinclair when his confidence drops

Forrest can be hot and cold

Ntcham similar to Forrest.

Having better players around these guys will bring their game on and help the young ones develop.

Raise the standard, push the bar higher and it helps us develop better projects also.

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16 Feb 2019 12:25:50
Toljan has chance of staying, if not we sign someone else.

Yes we need 1-2 CBs but rest of the team is more than good enough to dominate domestically for the forseable future.

16 Feb 2019 14:14:07
Domestically we could sign nobody and dominate.

We should be aiming higher than domestic.

16 Feb 2019 14:29:48
Tesla can I ask what Bain has done wrong for you to consider him not a long term answer?

16 Feb 2019 15:16:43
I think Bain has done ok, I just think we can get better that's all.

16 Feb 2019 15:46:26
Tesla plays too much Fifa on his PlayStation, in his fantasy world he thinks we should be spending 10's of millions on transfer fees and adding another 20 million to our 60 million wage bill.

16 Feb 2019 16:02:37
Literally said none of that Stevie.

Unless u are suggesting Bain is the absolute best keeper we can attract?

16 Feb 2019 17:41:09
Have to say tesla369 l think you are a bit harsh on Bain and toljan who has only played 3 games or so.

Yes a lot of the players struggle at that level but Celtic have tried to sign players but they went elsewhere. And secondly where is the money going to come from to replace the players that need to be replaced to compete at that level.

It's mainly loan players as the costs are too high for Celtic to compete with wages and transfer fees. Remember the club record transfer is 9 million. They brought on a sub who Was 40 million. The problem with times gone by is that those league have more and more money with tv etc now and celtic simply can't compete financially with them which unfortunately is reflected on the pitch.

16 Feb 2019 18:16:04
They also had a worse revenue than us over the last few years

We are also owned by billionaires. One even twice as rich as Desmond amongst the shareholders.

Difference is that some people's owners want to back their club, while ours just want to earn from it.

Don't give one F about their £40 mil midfielder, they are not a world class side and neither were Zenit.

BATE have spent £11 mil their entire history and beat Arsenal.

Our attitude is totally defeatist. "We can't compete. " Well don't bother turning up then.

The mentality of our fans is as soft as the mentality of our players.

Bertie Auld in tunnel against inter who we were told we didn't have a chance again

You think he was sitting thinking oh we can't compete here?

Old school boys went out and got tore in. Now it's just sitting talking about price tags. Who cares, sick hearing excuses at not being able to play a 5 yard pass.

16 Feb 2019 18:56:12
I would keep Bain he is a good Goalkeeper can only remember one mistake in the last game thankfully didn't cost us a goal.

16 Feb 2019 19:09:44
I think some people are only happy when they re complaining, the ones that always see the glass half empty and then they are really happy when we get beat as it justifies their opinion. I think psychology also says that if you tell somebody often enough that he is crap he will start to believe it.

16 Feb 2019 19:41:50
It's not about that donjim. It's about truth.

The truth is we are happy to do the bare minimum for domestic success.

Our board have decided to make no attempt to compete in Europe.

Could we afford better players? Yes

We don't bring them in because we don't need to and some people are happy with that.

Some people are literally saying we can't do Europe so why bother investing. Our own fans literally settling for being better than the rest of a deadwood league.

16 Feb 2019 22:02:43
Seems like you would rather have a foreign goalkeeper for a few million instead of a guy who has been really good up until now.
IMO will only get better!

If we sort out our defence which is the area in most need of improvement Bain could be a top class keeper for us.

16 Feb 2019 23:20:46
agree that we should have better than bain (a free agent from dundee or hibs i think) as our number 1, tge boy has done relatively well but think that is a lot to do with being good with the ball at his feet, fir me he is too small for a keeper, but would be happy with him as 2nd or 3rd keeper.

17 Feb 2019 00:11:36
Ginn I've never criticised Bain just saying he's 27 and until us the best team he succeeded at was Dundee.

He can do an ok job the same as Hartley, Robson and co done.

However I just feel we can scout and attract better. I rate him highly as our 2nd choice.

I'm happy for him to be number one though but I'm just asking if he is the absolute best we can get?

That's different from being happy with it.

Football is cut throat or should be and if we can get better then he (and everyone else) should be replaced if we get better in.

17 Feb 2019 11:56:25
Tesla you can't just bin players when they fall out of favour and get new ones in at the drop of a hat, these guys are on contracts that need to be payed. We would have a squad of about 80 and a 150 million pound wage bill if it was down to you.

18 Feb 2019 10:17:15
Actually that's not even true. We have a huge wage bill because we sign huge numbers of cheap players

Many don't work out and are left doing nothing for a few years. Likes of Allan and co.

Another fault of our policy. We spend £60 mil a year on players and staff. Obviously most of that is player wages

We can afford to give a smaller squad of players between 30-50k a week each for that cash if you do the maths.

Instead we have the likes of Hendry on 10k but lots of others on similar paid for nothing.

Financially we would be the exact same bringing in higher quality as a smaller squad.



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