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15 Jul 2018 18:03:17
Another Fantastic decision by VAR ashame for Croatia fantastic example of a small country with wonderfully technically gifted players.

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15 Jul 2018 18:31:53
I know the player didn't deliberately hand ball but there was a clear hand to ball so correct decision in my opinion.

15 Jul 2018 18:59:53
Please tell me you are joking? Anyone who has played any level of football will know that is never a penalty. Total joke. Same as the decision for the free kick for the 1st goal. Red made a howler.

15 Jul 2018 19:25:41
I don't think it was a penalty but it might have been given because it changed the direction of the ball.

15 Jul 2018 20:05:24
I agree about the free kick as griezman dived but on the replay of the penalty you see the player pull his arm down towards the ball so it was hand to ball. However, as I said I don't think it was deliberate but the rule says hand to ball is a penalty and that is why it was given.

15 Jul 2018 20:21:35
The rules say if there is a deliberate movement of ball to hand then it’s a penalty. He brings his arm down but not to handle the ball. Never a pen in a million years and if it went against us we would be ragin.

15 Jul 2018 20:47:13
Never never never a pen. His are is going that way naturally. He had his eyes closed as well.

15 Jul 2018 21:01:39
I didn’t think it was a pen and it was never a free kick in a million years. How it took the ref that length of time to make a decision is unreal he has to be certain of course but he even went back again to check.

15 Jul 2018 21:05:02
I bet if you asked most refs they would have gave that as a penalty because the hand moved towards the ball.

15 Jul 2018 21:24:29
Most refs are the wee boys last picked at football or never picked hence the reason they gets decisions wrong. They don’t make them from a players perspective, they make them from technicalities.

15 Jul 2018 21:55:34
Yeah, but the hand changed the direction of the ball, and prevented a goal scoring opportunity, have they not changed the law in these circumstances, making it a penalty, leaving the ref with little choice, because if it was a deliberate hand ball, would it not have been a red card offence,?, .

15 Jul 2018 22:03:54
interesting comments but imo his hand went down in direction of the ball and his palm was turned outwards. Had he kept a fist then maybe not a penalty but the flat palm changed the direction of the ball and I have to agree with refs decision.

15 Jul 2018 23:46:32
That’s the problem, the final decision still lies with the referee, the VAR doesn’t make the decision it’s there to assist the referee, so you can’t blsme VAR, blame the referee.

16 Jul 2018 00:47:14
I thought the referee was harsh on Croatia throughout the game .
Ref shouldn't have got the game anyway, he was once suspended for giving a wrong penalty decision . Surely, for the biggest game in World football every 4 years there are thousands of referees who are not tainted by suspension available to ref.

{Ed007's Note - VAR's got it covered, Chis. Every decision in the World Cup was 100% spot on becuse VAR was used to back up any mistakes.}

16 Jul 2018 08:03:56
How could it not have been 100%, with 40 refs and 200 replays on top of it!

16 Jul 2018 12:12:42
He slapped the ball its a penalty kick, we would all have claimed for it.

16 Jul 2018 20:47:34
It was 100% a penalty. He never took his eye off the ball once and when it deflected he just reacted with his hand to slap the ball.

One of those when you handle it and wonder why you done it, like a reflex.

I think mostly people were more swayed to being annoyed about the decision because it went against the underdogs and many wanted Croatia to put up more of a fight.

France were just too good though overall. The France vs Belgium game was always the real final.

16 Jul 2018 22:05:02
Bullsh! t it was never deliberate. Al watch it again bur I'm sure his eyes were closed when it hit his hand.

16 Jul 2018 23:18:36
Ed, Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, but you wouldn't be sarcastic.

Why did it take the Var ( Commitee) so long in deciding to ask the referee to have a look . There mustn't have been agreement and it must have went to a vote . The must have used proportional representation to get the result . I would have thought that the fact it took them so long and the referee twice and also ages, there must have been some doubt .
If Var has a future, they have to speed up the decision making, slow decisions give so much time to get wrong decision.

{Ed007's Note - Chris I've never been a fan and made that clear all along, I think the fact the World Cup final was decided by a dodgy free kick, a dodgy offside and a dodgy penalty justififies my stance. The fact people are still debating VAR's decisions proves that it is not - and never will be - 100% right and it is still only down to opinion.
Andrew Dallas and Willie Collum should petition FIFA to roll it out in Scotland to show the world how accurate it is. Who needs honest mistakes when the ref can watch replays and then decide not to give a penalty anyway?}

17 Jul 2018 00:11:19
but the attitude there ED is wrong. People are clearly expecting too much from VAR too soon.

expecting it to be 100%

but actually people should be asking is there improvements.

based on this world cup, the vast majority of decisions which were overturned were correct.

with only a couple still arguable/ wrong. So aye VAR will still result in an individual ref making the wrong choice

but you are saying to throw it away altogether because of that. What I'm saying is stop being so negative and ask yourself the positives.

how many decisions were correct using VAR vs wrong? the answer is a lot more were correct. So that is improvement.

nobody is saying perfect but it's progress.

{Ed007's Note - But there was still wrong decisions so overall what was the point? They got some right and they got some wrong - exactly the same as refs.
How many mistakes was The World Cup Final decided on? It was overall a disaster just like it was proven to be in Germany.
Just like fans in the stands, viewers at home, ex players, ex-refs and pundits in the studio, journalists and my Mrs, it's just opinion. And people will argue until they get the decision that suits their personal opinion.}

17 Jul 2018 18:33:40
The thing that I hoped Var wouldn't do was remove all debate from decisions in and around penalty area . Thank God it didn't .
As an old timer I always thought a good bit of fun in going to a match was the discussion afterwards about an offside decision, a tackle, fair or unfair, inside outside the box .
Thank God we probably won't have certainty or finish up with remote control football

Of course VAR in Scotland would be a complete disaster . The brothers would share top jobs around them.







 

 

 
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