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25 May 2018 12:21:37
OK fellow Tims/ Timettes
Is it only myself that is worried about Lustig and Rogic in particular going to the World Cup, firstly both have well documented injury problems and will require a decent rest before coming back to us.
This will mean missing most if not all, of our CL qualifiers and may also result in them missing games in the SPFL.
Then there is the problem of one or both picking up niggling injuries because of fatigue.
I hope I am worrying un necessarily.

{Ed007's Note - Rogic is a certainty to come back from the World Cup injured.}

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25 May 2018 12:38:03
ED007 that was why I posted, hope we are both worrying for nothing and both come back ready to play their parts in our treble treble.
If any player, not just ours, gets injured playing in the World Cup, do FIFA still pick up the bill for his treatment and his salary until he recovers? Cheers in advance for your input.

{Ed007's Note - Since the last World Cup in Brazil - and after a campaign started by Karl-Heinz Rummenigge when Robben got injured in South Africa in 2010- FIFA and UEFA compensate clubs if a player is injured in a World Cup or European Championship tournament, but not in a qualifier or a friendly.
Before that it was up to individual FAs to have insurance for players, some FAs did and some didn't bother.}

25 May 2018 13:07:07
Aye rogic is a big worry for me too. I can't see Australia managing him the way Rodgers does, he'll play every minute possible.

{Ed007's Note - And so he should, if he's not fit to play the amount Australia want him to he shouldn't be there. It's not a worry for me, Steph, I wholly expect him to come back injured which will impact on his preseason and then his problems will roll on for most of the season and the excuse will be that he was at the World Cup and he didn't have a proper preseason.}

25 May 2018 13:20:44
Aye they're well within their rights but it might backfire quickly and scupper any hopes they've got of getting out their group. Out of interest who have they got? Selfishly I hope they go home early.

25 May 2018 13:43:47
Ive never liked the way the Aussie's handled Rogic in the past. They have flown him over while he was recovering before and set him back. Thier track record on this is shocking.

{Ed007's Note - In that case all he had to do was pull out of the squad and provide adequate medical evidence so it's hardly Australia's fault. Read back and you'll see how often Rogic talks about how much he looks forward to meeting up with the Australian squad, maybe it's his own fault for declaring he is fit to meet up with the squad.
It's another example of why I hate any Celtic player being called up for international football, if I was Rodgers I would be telling him after this World Cup he should forget about international football and concentrate on getting fit AND staying fit for Celtic, that should be Rogic's main priority.}

25 May 2018 15:18:56
the negativity about rogic, the best player we have, on this page is ridiculous, give the guy a break.

25 May 2018 17:13:14
He gets plenty breaks James
He get m about half the season of and then he gets the last half hour of almost every game he does manage to play off.

25 May 2018 17:19:17
😂 kev, that's exactly it. Really hope he gets the majority of next season under his belt. We'll never get 90mins out of him every week, he just doesn't have it in him. But here's hoping he has no injury lay offs otherwise we'll really need to look elsewhere. CAM is arguably the most important position in the team.

{Ed007's Note - We only need to look to Callum McGregor. I'd start him every week over Rogic in the No.10 role.}

25 May 2018 17:56:35
Rogic will be fine . Calm doon. :)

25 May 2018 19:10:30
New poster here. Normally just read posts, but got a bit upset with the posts re Rogic. Great, great player. Joy to watch, so I'm with Jamesbhouy, too much negativity. That does not mean I don't rate Calmac. He is also a great player and improving all the time, but Rogic, I think, is an artist. Registered just so I could say that. Cheers everybody.

{Ed007's Note - Sorry we upset you, are you OK now?}

25 May 2018 20:14:34
Is Rogic our best player though, I was thrilled when he signed on again, but best player? not in my opinion, I don't think we have a best player, the squad as a unit are playing good football (most times) KT, Calmac, Broony, griff etc etc, even Armstrong on his day is right up there! But I wouldn't like any of our players to get injured, even though I do think we will cope if Rogic or anyone get injured.

25 May 2018 20:15:47
Yes, I'm fine now, and will now deregister (now that I've got that off my chest) . Take care all and enjoy the upcoming season.

{Ed007's Note -

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25 May 2018 20:29:04
He is the nicest to watch but he is probably our least effective forward thinking player.

25 May 2018 22:30:27
Did you make hoodini disappear ed?

{Ed007's Note - I hope he's OK.}

25 May 2018 23:57:40
im sure he recently completed a couple of 90 minutes, the guy gets rested, because the game is won, and rodgers protects him from hammer throwers what's the big deal? the guy is also being nursed back to full fitness after being unlucky with injuries, give it a rest kev you're like a broken record.

26 May 2018 00:44:32
what games are you watching kev? are you serious? he's our most attacking threat after moussa.

26 May 2018 08:23:30
Glad he signed a new contract but Rogic our best player gies peace. If he doesn't play we can fill his role with 3 or 4 players but if Broony is out we are a different team. Let's be realistic guys please. On a brighter note I am really confident that new exciting players are on the way. The target for Brendan this year is more European progress. HH 3 to go till 10 in a row.

26 May 2018 11:12:29
It's difficult for a player to turn down the chance to play for his country.
Getting capped and the recognition which goes with it also enhances the player's experience and value. Not to mention the success and enjoyment for his own supporters. (If being honest, we Celtic supporters love to see one of our own players perform well for his country)
That said, players have a duty to their main employers as well and they have to consider this when agreeing to play internationals.
Case in point, Rojic, does injure easily and he is not getting younger so he has to consider his long term career versus occasional international caps. He also has to consider his long term health and what condition he will be left in after playing.
In his position, I would now be considering calling it a day on my international career.
re. compensation. If an International Association does not adequately insure players chosen to play for the country then the player's club should be entitled to withdraw the player to protect their own asset and interests.
for those who feel we are attacking Rojic and that the player gives a lot of pleasure and strength to the team. Not many will argue that but, he can't do that if he is injured.
just my tuppenceworth on the subject.

25 May 2018 20:24:53
Ed, sorry to dig this up as i know it was a post in recent weeks. Can you display the minutes and game comparison between rogic and another of our regular MF players. Can't recall who it was.

For the record, like most i love the guy, talented individual with great ball control and long distance shooting. However; he is a passenger most of the time which we can afford domestically but not in Europe. We need big players all the time like Broony, not just now and then.

{Ed007's Note - The figures were only up until the end of March, Shug. I'll update them later but here's the ones I had put up:


-----------Games----Mins-----Avg. Mins---90 mins---Goals----Assists.
Rogic--------32-----1929--------60----------11---------5--------8
McGregor---45------2951-------65----------22---------8--------8
Sinclair-----45------3261--------72----------24---------17-------15
Forrest-----49-------3374-------68----------18---------16-------6

26 May 2018 12:30:03
James He plays less games than the rest he plays less full games than the rest and has less goals and assists than the rest.
Like ed007 has pointed out many a time Sinclair in what many labelled a bad season out performed rogic at every level.

26 May 2018 17:40:04
Ousting hasn't now got the reputation of been a sick risk . It must be three seasons now that Lustig has competed without missing many games .
The good thing about Rogic is that although he can be devastating at times, he also goes through games where he is anonymous . If it were the later we would have to do without him even if there were no World Cup.

26 May 2018 23:32:12
Rogic will hopefully come back fit and well. Calm down Bhoys don’t worry about things you can’t control.

26 May 2018 23:31:18
rogic is the most technically gifted player we have.







 

 

 
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