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28 Mar 2018 11:36:12
Morgan got another 2 for St Mirren last night, thing I've noticed is that he's not scared to shoot from distance. I really hope that is something he brings to our team, Griffiths the only other player I can think of that takes a pop quite regularly, fair enough Ntcham but never really see anything coming from that.

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28 Mar 2018 12:02:22
Rogic?

28 Mar 2018 12:33:10
Armstrong? Tierney? Paddy?

28 Mar 2018 13:18:32
lubo lol.

28 Mar 2018 13:22:14
Aye all give you Rogic Kev.

28 Mar 2018 13:57:29
its not like him ken he's usually slagging rogic.

28 Mar 2018 14:25:13
Jamesbhoy i have never slagged Rogic's ability. He is a great player. What concerns me is how often he is out injured meaning we can't build a team a round him the way we would want to for a player that gifted.

28 Mar 2018 14:38:02
every player has injuries kev, rogic has just been unlucky with them, he's a fantastic player who can always turn games and he always turns up in the big games, he's the best player at celtic.

28 Mar 2018 15:25:14
Certainly the most technically gifted player at Celtic, maybe working with his own physiotherapist would be a good idea? Iโ€™m not really sure how it works but surely that would benefit him.

28 Mar 2018 16:06:13
Yes every player has his own injuries but rogic averages about 20 games a season when we play over 60 games. To be fair last 2 years he lifted that to about 25-30. He's missing more than half the games EVERY season, not just the odd bad season. How can we build a team round him?
Ed put out how many games rogic has played since we signed him and am sure is was under 130 games.
Compare that to Tierney who is on course to play 60 games this season alone.

{Ed007's Note - He's played 123 games for us Kev - 78 in the league - and he's now in his 6th season with us. Out of the 27 goals he's scored for us in those 6 seasons, 18 of them have been in the league.
Rogic is 25 and without counting internationals he's played 162 games in total in his career compared to KT who at 20 has played 124, and scored 5 league goals.}

28 Mar 2018 16:29:03
Thanks for that ed.
There is no way you can build a stable midfield around a player who plays less than half the games I a season no matter how gifted.
How can we plan ahead if we have no idea if rogic will be available or injured again?

{Ed007's Note - There's a lot of confusion surrounding Rogic just now. As I've said I was told a while back that Rogic wouldn't be here next season - mostly for the reasons that you've mentioned btw - but it looks like the plan all along was to offer him a contract that was heavily performance/appearance related which is more than likely the offer he's turned down.
Maybe there's a bit of politics is in play here, the Club say they offered him a new deal (knowing he would turn it down?) and Rogic can say the terms weren't suitable, nobody loses face and Rogic moves on.
As a side note, Paddy McCourt was with us for 5 seasons and made 88 apps - only 35 less than Rogic has in 6 his seasons here - and look at the reputation McCourt had.}

28 Mar 2018 17:40:40
the boy has been unlucky with injuries, a fit Rogic starts for me every week no matter what pantie wetters say.

{Ed007's Note - Pantie wetters? If you actually spend some time to read what people are saying you might see that they're agreeing with you.}

28 Mar 2018 17:56:20
Well said ED.

28 Mar 2018 18:04:02
it is pantie wetting going on about the guys past injuries, he's fit now let's enjoy him winning cup finals for us and banging in 25 yarders against sevco, who cares about the past?

{Ed007's Note - You're taking talking garbage to a whole new level here.}

28 Mar 2018 18:17:03
I like Rogic, coming on for last half hour . I don't know if Celtic would feel themselves justified in giving a new improved contract for a player who based on his career up to now, just doesn't put the hours on the pitch. He definitely has skills that we need, but we need them nearly every game from start to finish . We were happy to get a good 30 minutes from Lubo but at that time Lubo was at least ten years older than Rogic . When Rogic is in his thirties will he be giving ten to fifteen minutes every game.

{Ed007's Note - That's exactly what everybody's saying, Chris. Nobody's questioning his ability but there are serious concerns over his long term fitness and that causes problems when planning for the future.}

28 Mar 2018 18:59:09
It's not pantie wetting. It's fact.
He hasn't been unlucky with injury. He is injury prone.
Unlucky is getting a big injury that ends a season. Not injury after injury after injury.
Would anyone bet that he won't be injured when he comes back from world cup where he might need to play 3 games a week?

28 Mar 2018 19:17:07
hes had less injuries than forrest.

28 Mar 2018 21:06:36
How come Forrest has a bigger games average over his time at club than rogic does then?

28 Mar 2018 22:23:24
I can see both sides here i would just hate to see him go and play his best stuff elsewhere, i think we have enough cover to have the luxury of him fir the big games, he had the best close control for a guy his size iv seen in a long time but im not disagreeing its frustrating, don't know whete i stand on this one๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ชโœŒ๏ธ.

{Ed007's Note - That's the thing though, I don't think he will ever be playing enough games to see his 'best stuff', yeah he'll play well and have the odd stormer but then he'll be out injured again. As I said, there's nobody questioning his ability but long term can you see him being an integral part of any team or will he always be either giving us 60 mins or coming off the bench after another injury?
This season Rogic has played in 32 games for Celtic amassing 1929 minutes on the park, that averages 60 mins a game. He has completed one 90 mins match in the CL Groups and 3 in the early season qualifiers and 7 times out of his 15 league apps.
If I could be arsed I'd compare his stats to Scott Sinclair who people are saying they wouldn't care if he left after the season he's had or Callum McGregor who is much more reliable than Rogic to play in the CAM role.}

29 Mar 2018 10:40:29
Gone do it ed, I want to see the figures.

{Ed007's Note - Callum McGregor has played in 45 (Rogic 32) games amassing 2,951 mins (Rogic 1929), that averages 65 mins a game (Rogic 60) and has played the full 90 mins in 22 of those games (Rogic managed 11). McGregor has scored 8 goals compared to Rogic's 5 but they both share the same amount of assists, 8.
Scott Sinclair has also played 45 game amassing 3261 mins on the park, an average of 72 mins per game. Sinclair's played 90 mins in 24 of them - the same as McGregor, but Sinclair has scored 17 goals along with his 15 assists.
James Forrest, has played in 49 games amassing 3,374 mins on the park, an average of 68 mins per game. Forrest has completed 90 mins on 18 occasions scoring 16 goals along with 6 assists.

-----------Games-- Mins----Avg. Mins---90 mins---Goals. Assists.
Rogic-------32-----1929-------60-----------11------------5--------8
McGregor---45-----2951-------65----------22------------8--------8
Sinclair-----45-----3261-------72-----------24-----------17-------15
Forrest-----49-----3374-------68-----------18-----------16--------6

I hope you appreciate that, Steph! :-D

29 Mar 2018 13:26:57
Great info Ed. thanks for doing that!

{Ed007's Note - Thanks mate and you're welcome.}

29 Mar 2018 13:48:11
Smashing ed ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ well done and aye a do appreciate it. Thanks ๐Ÿ‘.

{Ed007's Note - No probs mate.}

29 Mar 2018 14:00:04
Nice one ed.

{Ed007's Note - (yes)

29 Mar 2018 15:53:47
Keep all of them๐Ÿ˜‚.

29 Mar 2018 17:00:58
Ed007. You are a walking statistician .
Your facts destroy many a need for an argument.

{Ed007's Note - I must be doing something right if I've impressed you, Chris!}

29 Mar 2018 18:32:09
You have your good days Ed007.

{Ed007's Note - High praise indeed - you'll have me blushing here shortly.}







 

 

 
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