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29 Jan 2018 11:31:25
Hi Ed
Just wondering with these kind of loan deals, is there ever anything in the contract that states the player has to play so many games.
I think I remember when Rodgers came in it took wee Roberts a while to get into the team.

{Ed007's Note - With players like Musonda and Roberts there will be stipulations about game time but they will be flexible taking things like fitness and form into consideration.}

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29 Jan 2018 11:59:13
Cheers Ed.

{Ed007's Note - You're welcome, Jon.}

29 Jan 2018 12:06:32
I don't think any team would take a player on if they weren't prepared to play him. The actual number of games would then be dependent upon how well that player performs. If there was a stipulation that was binding regarding actual games then it makes a mockery of the managers prerogative to select the best team.

There would be an understanding that the player is moving to develop. But, to suggest that they are guaranteed a certain amount appearances is nonsense. If a player came and was a compete disaster there is no way a club would be forced to play him.

With Charlie it is highly unlikely that he would not be given a chance. Look at Roberts, it took a while for him to be used and that was solely down to Rogers deciding at that time not to play him.

He goes to get experience, but, he only gets that if he proves he is worthy of a spot in the starting line up. Stipulation suggests they pick our team, they don't. We wouldn't go for a player we didn't think added to the tam and will be goven a chance to prove that. if they fail, then no stipulation would over ride the fact they aren't performing.

Stipulation is too strong, an understanding that he will be given a chance is a given. But as Ed says, that's dependent upon form and fitness.

I cannot see charlie being denied game time. Whether he keeps getting it will be down to his performance and not by any agreement to give him a certain amount. Why would a team go for a player they weren't prepared to play. Especially if we are paying good money to have him.

If h is a quarter as good as he looks on video then he will play most if not every game if he avoids injury.

cannot wait to see the boy play.

29 Jan 2018 12:23:25
Pretty much an over exaggerated description of what ED said then?

29 Jan 2018 13:11:03
In football manager the loan contracts usually stipulate what role the player will have in the team, e. g. Key Player, First team, Rotation, Backup etc.

They also detail what % of the wage you pay if the player plays and a % they get for not playing. Usually the % for not playing is greater than the % for playing, which means you have an incentive to play them.

There is no clause that they need to play a certain amount of games. While this is just a game I think it is probably a decent reflection on reality.

However, I admit that I don't have any first hand knowledge of player's actual contracts.

29 Jan 2018 18:22:47
Stipulation, if you look it up is a prerequisite. There is no prerequisite for the number of appearances, so you five can do one. :)

It was the stipulation aspect I was questioning.

29 Jan 2018 19:24:45
You may want to learn to count as there are only four posters above (Jonbhoy71, Ed007,Jonbhoy71 and RodgersAtWork) . Somehow, I doubt you were including yourself as one of the five.

29 Jan 2018 19:45:09
It said five on my PC.

29 Jan 2018 20:16:06
So you can't even count to five and rely on a computer telling you the answer?

It would appear you also have a problem with comprehension as I never claimed there was a clause that stipulated the number of appearances a loan player must make. Here are my words verbatim "There is no clause that they need to play a certain amount of games".

For the record neither did bravetart86 or Jonbhoy71.







 

 

 
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