26 Oct 2017 20:09:08
Some comments in a separate thread got me thinking about loans and what is the best way to develop youngsters and lead me to the following question.
Is loaning out our players to other SPFL clubs really the Best for their development anymore?
Going out to the likes of Killie is all fair and well but are they receiving a grounding in the type of football that is required of them for playing for us anymore? How many players do we really loan out who come back and go on to be regulars? I can’t think of many where that has been the case, perhaps McGregor being a recent example and he didn’t go to a Scottish team.
I think that in any sport the only way you can improve is to play and train against players of a higher quality than you are currently at and we aren’t going to get that by loaning to other Scottish clubs, otherwise why aren’t we sending the likes of Ralston, Aitchison, Kouassi etc out to the likes of Dundee, St Johnstone etc?
Perhaps a more realistic route for us is to try and get these guys out to other countries where technique is more of the philosophy, set up a partnership with some teams floating at the fringes of top divisions in Spain, Germany, Holland and Italy and see if any would be willing to take a few of our prospects on for a year and see how it goes. At the very least they will be getting a better football education than they would be getting at Ross County or wherever. Or maybe I’ve been playing too much championship manager.
26 Oct 2017 20:28:36
@Evinguu may I make two points
Firstly, you are far too sensible to be on here
Secondly, in the absence of Wee Pat can I remind you of our agreement to keep your posts short lol.
26 Oct 2017 21:44:07
Why do people keep mentioning Ralston for lone when he's our number 2 right back?
{Ed007's Note - Loan out Ralston, spend millions on a new RB and bench Lustig.}
27 Oct 2017 06:47:43
Erving: ok so some of the EPL clubs get us to give their youngsters a start . What I have noticed with some of the younger players down south is, they don’t want to go on like an they want to play football and as such are walking away from teams like Chelsea to get a start at a lower league team: This is where the real Gems are and they will be cheap.
Getting a player like PR and Moussa sends a message out to these kids that we will give you start and a chance to make a name for yourself.
27 Oct 2017 09:13:29
I agree with you Evingu. It's player depending of course, foreign players may need to adjust to the Scottish/ British game. Likewise a youngster may add the strings they need for their bow in a different environment, such as Spain. I think the coach/ manager of the receiving club is a big factor too. How are they teaching players to play? I think that is more important than where they are playing. Bang on with the idea of setting up partnerships abroad, I know we have some official ones already but I don't hear much about players swapping Celtic for Santos Laguna or vice versa.
27 Oct 2017 10:17:03
Evingu. we now have Clark at killie regarded as a great coach in epl and most would have had him here coaching. they need players without spending our boys need experience an opportunity? . kev . yes he's no 2 but six month or a season playing regularly rather than possibly a dozen as back up must be better for boys like Ralston.? . don't know . but do the loan boys train everyday with their loan clubs.
26 Oct 2017 23:50:33
Timalloy, that is short by my standards, I could have gone on as well you know.
Kev. I’m not saying he should be one out on loan just using as an example. But have not seen it mentioned myself that he needs it.
Ed now that is what I call thinking, need a new 6 mil right back who can also play centre mid.
27 Oct 2017 07:55:28
Hope that is sarcasm ed007.
{Ed007's Note - :)
27 Oct 2017 13:51:51
Deep river bhoy he would have played plenty games here if he hadn't been injuried. He's already played against some of the best in the world and is by far a better player than gamboa.