Celtic banter 36448

 

Use our rumours form to send us celtic transfer rumours.


10 Sep 2017 09:06:52
Who the feck are these bams who will not shut the feck up with the IRA nonsense? Friday again was a disgrace. Really, we need to drop this rubbish or are we, as they always say, as bad as them. give it up you tools.

Agree14 Disagree6

10 Sep 2017 09:53:30
Club will eventually stop accepting away tickets till it stops.

10 Sep 2017 09:58:24
Can't agree more GJ. I honestly don't get it. How many times do they need to be told the club gets fined for it. It gives the Scottish press an absolute field day.

10 Sep 2017 10:13:22
These so called bams are known as Celtic supporters. If you actually went to games you would realise that it is not a small minority but in fact the majority.

As the song says "Let the people sing" and as I say, to hell with people's middle class sensibilities.

10 Sep 2017 10:51:24
I go to games as regularly as I can, and I can assure you any game I've been to I haven't heard any IRA chants. It only seems to be away games that it's a MAIN issue. Your saying let the people sing. Do you boo when the skeletons sing their songs. Would you moan if people sang about pro-ISIS songs? Are you happy with the orange dinosaurs making a racket in the streets walking for god knows what?

10 Sep 2017 11:19:44
So called bams Rodgersatwork? Complete Feckin idiots! Nothing to do with being middle class lol it's to do with the fact of supporting a murdering organisation! Nothing to do with what class your supposedly in but whether you've got a Fecken brain!

10 Sep 2017 11:24:08
Where is the line though guys? Is Grace ok? Is the song played by the club over the tannoy stating 'Let me people sing their stories and their songs there lullabys and battle cries' sending out the wrong message? Is the wee are the people's annual armed forces day yesterday OK because of its acceptability on a surface level when we all know what it's really all about? Not expressing an opinion either way just putting the questions out there. Where is the line?

10 Sep 2017 11:33:17
A total embarrassment to the club. Away Day Provos who have never been in a Republican March, never more than a couple of hundred.

If this is so important you would think they might turn out.

The fact they don't is either down to not being that committed or scared of the loyalists.

BT lowered the sound as one IRA song after another. Apart from being boring as feck they tarnish our club and every fan who wishes they would give it a by and sing Celtic songs.

Lawell needs to issue a statement simply stating any Provo songs heard at away games and everyone who got a ticket won't get another one.

The Huns and press use this and it's a disgrace supporters don't care what damage they do.

Hit the streets if you are such a diehard.

10 Sep 2017 12:10:45
Gstq and Flower of Scotland are political and have agressive words where does it stop but agree the provo stuff needs to be toned down a bit.

10 Sep 2017 12:18:14
Sadly it seems to be every away game we hear the same old song. In ten years of sporting events in Ireland I have never heard a pro IRA song. The same scumbags singing the same songs unaware the world has moved on. Thankfully it is only a minority.

10 Sep 2017 12:18:00
@toprig - Admittedly, the songs are sung more at away games than they are at home games but I can assure you that the Green Brigade (and others) sing them at home games as well. For example when I was at the Linfield game most of the stadium joined in when we song the Broad Black Brimmer.

In answer to your question I do not boo when Rangers' fans sing their songs. I also could not care less if opposing fans sang pro-Isis songs. I can also assure you that I have never been bothered with the orange walk despite disagreeing with their views.

@SoSBhoy - So you are suggesting that anyone who supports a murdering organisation are idiots and lacking brain cells? Using that logic you are slagging off the majority of your own fans, anyone who buys a poppy or anyone who supports the British armed forces and many more. Let me give you a history lesson, the British establishment and Armed Forces are responsible for 10s of millions of deaths all over the world, compared to a few thousand caused by the PIRA. Sticking with this comparison, the Brits do it for financial gain and the PIRA did it in their fight against centuries of oppression. So who are the real bad guys?

10 Sep 2017 12:33:31
I know our history is interlinked with Ireland and can understand the empathy but I don't get the obsession of irishness. not wanting to upset/ insult anyone irish but I have never wanted to be Irish or live in Ireland . and although sang the songs when younger I truthfully certainly never wanted to go fight and die or go to jail there. (is it a bit like internet trolling when you can safely spout off without having to actually physically face it or back up your vocal support by actually doing something about it.?
Or is there a collective split personality amongst our support . as I said I don't want to be Irish but I also still don't associate myself as Scottish and this is where it still festers with most as I have seen and encountered historical prejudice and discrimination because of my religion
. not having had to look for work in years is it still as bad? do respectable looking people walk past you as a child or youth with a Celtic top on and call you a fenian or taig bastard? Jfp is right where do you draw the line. is it outdated yes imo but like a lot of people who find it embarrising and cringeworthy (especially adding on ira in middle of lines of songs just fir the sake of it) i know im also hypocritical about it and in tbe pub with a feed of vodka in me and in a comfort zone of people I know I would belt out the songs like I was a daft young boy again. im not wanting to preach or stop / change peoples political views or even force them to stop singing just adding to the debate hopefully as honestly as I can or at my stage of life now perceive it.

10 Sep 2017 12:40:56
Celtic are a football club. This political/ religious bullcrap has nothing to do with our club. Yes celtic started that way almost 130 yrs ago but football and life has evolved. I'm from just outside belfast and got abused for yrs by the huns. The IRA were a bunch of murderers fighting for a cause they believed in but this has nothing to do with football so keep it out of the stands. Sing all u like in the bars b4 and after but have some respect in the stadiums. HH.

10 Sep 2017 15:00:10
Times change. What was acceptable when I was young is no longer allowed. We are trying to rid the game and society of bigotry racism and homophobia. It's time to let songs about the IRA go. There are plenty of Celtic and Irish bases songs that don't mention the IRA.
It now makes our club look bad, it overshadows all the good we do and let's people attack our
we were praise for tackling homophobia but then revel in this?

10 Sep 2017 15:05:44
Jfp i would go with the rule of thumb that if it mentions the IRA specifically then it's a definite no no.
There is a difference about Irish folk songs and blatant Provo songs in my eye.

10 Sep 2017 16:10:33
Kev83, what does singing IRA songs have to do with homophobia, bigotry or racism?

10 Sep 2017 18:25:41
Several of the IRA sings are both racest and bigoted RAW.

10 Sep 2017 19:00:03
Well said SoSBhOy
The sad reality is that the halfwits who sing the provocative songs are more interested in their self-perceived right to sing them than they are about our club. It makes you wonder if they are genuine fans or just looking for a platform to spout their out of date and negative tripe. HH.

10 Sep 2017 19:02:01
its not a crime to be an Irish Republican.

10 Sep 2017 19:24:00
ive never heard an IRA song that is racist or sectarian in my life kev your wetting your pants again, what ones are you talking about? name the lyrics then?

10 Sep 2017 22:35:22
Me either James.

10 Sep 2017 23:43:36
Can we maybe split the IRA songs or the pira songs from the older republican songs like the rising of the moon, the wearing of the green, boolavogue, I can't remember the Tom Barry quote that went something like the British went down into the mire and we went down after them, but I just can't have any truck with the versions of the IRA or their offshoots blowing up pubs and killing innocent people, men women and children, for what?, so that they or we can say we are in control, what does it matter now in Ireland anyway, it has been prostituted to the European union and is controlled by Brussels.

11 Sep 2017 12:11:23
If we are so Irish, seems more Irish than the Irish, who never sing these feckin songs, why haven't we moved with them.

Listening to this utter shite every away game when 90% of those singing never attend any republican March but get all Dewey eyed about the struggle is embarrassing.

Have your political say by all means, but donut where it matters on matches or political involvement.

It's right enough comparing it to the 70's and 80's. It's a weight around our neck and we need to let it go. Reading on here it is clear that the Provo is strong in some and that won't happen as they just love the ira so much and the struggle haunts their every thought and emotion. Cektuc need to issue a statement, ira songs at away games then everyone in there is removed from the list. It's getting worse every game and it seems people prefer to sing ira songs rather than Celtic songs. And it has feck all to do with class, well it has, but not in the way discussed.

What the feck has the Broad Black Brimmer got to do with our football team? Time to move on.

{Ed007's Note - How do you know what 90% of the Celtic support do and where did you get that figure from? If you go to any Republican march you'll meet plenty of people that you've met on travels following Celtic, some supporters clubs run buses to them, and I know some of the lads from the GB are in bands from Glasgow and Lanarkshire as well.}

11 Sep 2017 13:46:57
You're deflecting. The only question people should be asked who do you support more?

The Provos or Celtic?

I doubt it's the Provos and I will use the paltry number who actually March as all the proof anyone needs. Away day Provos. I would have more respect if 10,000 turned out but I would still ask them to stop at games as it hurts us.

So, it's Celtic, then why embarrass the club signing songs that when push comes to shove, you don't hit the streets for?

The Irish don't sing them.

It's embarrassing. It hurts the image of the club and it is used to demonise the club and fans who don't agree with this 70's utter rubbish.

What was deemed acceptable in the 70's in so many areas we now look at with at times shame. When the Irish are trying to move on and get out of the cycle of hate, who are we as a football team to keep it going?

Sing Celtic songs loud and proud and put away the holster. Are we really advocating a return to killing?

I have no problem with people's political beliefs. This isn't about political beliefs as they do feck all apart from sing. Let's sing our way to victory. Let's look for peace and stop taking up a tragic history. If we don't it will continue to be our present and future.

Hail Hail.

11 Sep 2017 18:50:44
@MagicPole - using your logic you cannot sing unless you support a cause and attend rallies. Does that mean I cannot sing "Bella Ciao" because I am not a member of the Italian Communist movement? Does that mean I cannot sing "I Wish I Knew (How It Would Feel to Be Free) " because I did not attend a civil rights march?

To put you straight, people sing songs for many different reasons, not just the one you think.

For example I bet if you polled the Celtic supporters who sing rebel songs, why do you sing them? You would get a multitude of answers.

Anyway regardless of why people sing a certain song, what gives you the right to tell them not to sing it?







 

 

 
Log In or Register to post

User
Pass
Remember me

Forgot Pass  
 
Change Consent