18 Oct 2016 09:50:25
Was just having a look at the sevco page and some tit had mentioned that if Celtic and sevco do eventually get the chance to join this proposed Atlantic league it would be the way to stop us winning 10 in a row, just got me thinking. What would you rather have,10 in a row or join a better wealthier league? Thoughts. HH.
18 Oct 2016 11:56:32
I'm happy in Scotland. Not the greatest league but it is our league.
18 Oct 2016 12:50:21
I think we're terrible hypocrites at times when we complain about the biggest clubs ring fencing the majority of the CL money and threatening to jump ship and yet we make far more money than anybody else domestically and some fans want us to jump ship to a richer league.
{Ed007's Note - I've said it before, Kev, a lot of the support aren't angry about the big teams breaking away to form their own league, they're angry because Celtic aren't involved. If Celtic were involved they would be delighted. The same people who moan about the SLY/EPL money would be doing cartwheels down London Road if we were invited to join them. They really don't have a problem with the SLY/EPL deal or the money involved, their problem is that Celtic aren't getting it.
I wonder how long the fair-weather supporters and glory hunters would stick around if we joined an Atlantic League and never won a league title again?
Who's to say we wouldn't just be like an Everton or Southampton in the EPL in this Atlantic league? How many supporters will stick around when we aren't the top-dogs or challenging for titles, will Celtic Park sell-out for a Celtic v Copenhagen match where we're 4th in the league and they're 7th?}
18 Oct 2016 13:09:23
That's a lot of tits Augustus.
18 Oct 2016 13:49:02
I believe any breakaway leagues will have a short shelf life, be it Atlantic or the big boys.
18 Oct 2016 14:31:57
I would rather play in Scotland, the aim should be to try and raise the standard of our own league.
I read somewhere at the weekend that Mark McGhee said he would be happy to go back to Lanarkshire with a 3-0 defeat, I know that Celtic should always be favourites in these games but surely teams have to be a bit more positive than that.
If that's the attitude of the manager, then how on earth do you motivate your players, they are already beaten before they go on the park with that logic.
18 Oct 2016 14:55:53
if the powers that be had a braincell between them and restructured the leagues ( 2 / 3 larger leagues ) , i think a lot more fans would stop talking about the breakaway etc, . would remain in scotland myself but got to admit i'm bored senseless playing the same teams at least 4 times a season, if the top and first joined to make twenty teams, surely it would be a more competitive league?, as they would only play us twice, plus we would cut down on the crap that gets flung when we play the first order, hate the money that gets flung at the english leagues but like the idea of a top twenty tier and twenty odd in the next tier ( Epl and Championship) . if we were to follow along those lines i think the league would be more entertaining, plus more competative for the other teams.
18 Oct 2016 16:08:06
I personally wouldn't listen to a single thing on a sevco page and it just goes to show there mentality if they want to leave there country because it would stop 10 in a row, it sums them up perfectly.
This breakaway talk is a pile of mince and getting really old.
How long has it been doing the rounds now, 10 15 years?
18 Oct 2016 14:29:54
Agree with a lot of what your saying Ed but surely we could be doing more to promote our own league and finding ways to increase our own revenue. How the EPL can justify the money that's thrown into that is beyond belief.
{Ed007's Note - I'd like to see BTSport get exclusive rights to the Scottish game. They seem to put a lot more effort into their presentation and in general talk the game up more than Sly.}
18 Oct 2016 16:47:46
Going back to your point ed, I will forever be an all seasons fan regardless of league or league position tho can't speak for everyone. I've never actually stopped to think about it but tbh I'd we did breakaway I think I'd miss it.
{Ed007's Note - For the first time in most of our lifetimes there's a chance that Celtic won't win another trophy for 10 maybe 20 years. I don't think a lot of people have given that much thought, what would be an acceptable level for us to finish in a new league before there's calls for the manager's head etc
Will the next generation of youngsters going to enjoy going and watching Celtic and them not lifting trophies or would we be pushing them to sit at home and tune into Man City v Barcelona in the Super-Dooper Big Boys League?
I'm not saying that we'd never challenge or win any new league btw but I'd imagine even 2 or 3 in a row would be rare in any new league, what is there to hold Celtic fans attention if we're sitting 5th in March or April, remember there's no CL to qualify for either.
I'd give it two or three years of not winning the league and Celtic fans would be campaigning to get back into the SPFL.}
18 Oct 2016 16:51:32
I wouldn't be over excited by Atlantic League or any other false partnership. As you say Ed the excitement of middle of the road teams would soon die away .
I was reading Skye's takings in the EPL is now 20% down on this time last year . If that is true, if more and more people went on streams, the EPL itself could be a problem.
{Ed007's Note - That's good to hear, Chris. I can never understand the people that boycott The S*n yet continue putting money into Murdoch's pocket via Sly.}
18 Oct 2016 18:20:17
Doesn't matter to me where we play
Doesn't matter to me who we play.
I will always follow celtic no matter where no matter what.
18 Oct 2016 18:34:01
Not going to lie ed I would be interested in an Atlantic league. This is all theoretical talk, but certainly would find it entertaining.
I don't believe we would be a below top 4 team ever which would be exciting to see the competitive nature of the league. I believe there would be good investment in the league from tv deals as well as sponsorship. It would attract a higher calibre of player to Celtic Park and no doubt would change the style of Scottish football.
I for one look forward to the day when young kids are excited about getting the new Celtic strip instead of a man city strip in this day and age. i'm sure youll agree with some of the points, as i agree with yours regarding glory hunters leaving and lucky to win 3 in a row in that kind of league. But i'd rather watch a competitive exciting league with a different style of football than waiting for a Southampton to hand pick our best players and our team to dwindle down to a bore style of football again.
19 Oct 2016 09:55:21
If anybody wants a breakaway, could I suggest an easier and achievable way is to get yer arse down to Tesco as they are doing a packet of five for a £1.
Otherwise dream on.