07 Apr 2016 18:46:16
With a lot of discussion about whether this team is worse than Mowbray's or Lennon's etc further down the page, I'd like to get people's thoughts on this: Forgetting teams of the past and comparisons, is anybody on this site happy with the state of this Celtic team right now? I'm certainly not. The players don't look up for it most weeks and the football is nothing like the style we all bought into almost 2 years ago. Whether that's down to poor management or the players not pulling their weight I don't know, but something's got to give.
07 Apr 2016 19:04:16
Been over my pragmatic support of RD several times. Obviously I'm not happy with standard of football but in terms of what's got to give I'd say there's a number of things that have to "give" before the simplistic sack the boss and hope for the best with the next one. The board have to give RD genuine backing in the summer, none of this bargain basement gamble stuff. They have to give him full control of signing policy (similar to first point) Scott Brown has to be given a rest or has to give up the band. The support have to give their all for the team instead of buying into the braying of the Daily Ranger etc.
07 Apr 2016 20:20:29
I agree with you to an extent on the first 2 points but I think it's unfair to insult your fellow supporter's intelligence by saying they're buying into the DR's guff. We've been there and watched the dross all season, we've made our own minds up, they haven't been made up by the media.
07 Apr 2016 20:27:07
I'm far from happy. What I would say is it must be the most underperforming team since Lou Macari. To have 3 players getting pass marks over a season is an embarrassment. Fans rave away about certain managers being out of our range, and about Ronny being a great Visionary. There's plenty top managers we could have got 2 years ago, we could get now. I mentioned Tuchel at the time. A year before Southampton appointed Pochettino who had no experience and had also just been sacked from Espanyol. He would have taken the Celtic job in a heartbeat. They done their homework and actually asked Mourinho for his thoughts, he mentioned Pochettino, he also recommended Karanka to Middlesbrough, he had hardly any experience either. The world is full of top young, top old coaches and managers. Plenty are progressive, with great ideas, it's a matter of sourcing them. Pochettino has coached 10 of the last 11 players who have made their England debut, I think he would have done a better job than Ronny! He couldn't speak a word of English, and 3 years later it's still not great, he must have great ideas though, and be able to put them across regardless.
{Ed007's Note - Pochettino could speak English, he had actually spoke in English to the staff and players at Southampton since he arrived, but he used an interpreter in his press conferences so that he could express himself and answer complex questions without his words being wrongly reported or misunderstood.}
07 Apr 2016 20:50:38
I didn't know that Ed, apologies. My bigger point was that there are plenty managers with good ideas, but also a bit more all round experience than Ronny had. It's not just about winning a trophy. He was under no pressure at Stromgodset and had no experience as a player outside Norway either. I said recently that it's like Derek McInnes winning the league with Aberdeen then being given the Chelsea job! It's not a step up, it's another world.
07 Apr 2016 20:54:31
Delphic you keep going on about the three player's that get pass mark's who is it that gave those three player's the passing grade because if it's you then that's just your opinion as to the manager situation what you fail to grasp is that the main issue is the board do you think any of the guy's you mention if offered would have came to Celtic with the lack of budget I doubt it and don't forget we offered the position to Keane and he told lawwell to cram it.
07 Apr 2016 22:12:17
Kevbhoy Correct me if I am wrong but u once took great glee I informing us that your father knew nothing as he didn't agree with you about the even handedness of the referees . No doubt your views of referees have come from the SMSM and probably Daily Record .
In my opinion those who have knocked R D and team the most think we don't have a problem with referees. I think their hatred of R D and the current team leaves them blind to the countless bad bias decision by Craig Thompson and friends.
07 Apr 2016 22:53:49
No Oldbhoy, I've made up my mind about referees all by myself because I have a brain. And are you trying to blame the media and referees for the garbage I'm paying almost £600 to watch?
07 Apr 2016 23:02:18
Old bhoy, that once again is just pure ridiculous . I've no doubt your good intentions but come on, hatred of rd? I don't know any fan who hates rd, lost faith definitely . Surely you can see all is not great? May not be entirely rd's fault but why you continually ignore all is not well is beyond me.
07 Apr 2016 23:17:22
In a couple of years when sevCo start winning leagues again how will you look back on winning leagues with rd and less than exiting football.
07 Apr 2016 23:42:01
this is easily explained, you have two sides the Ronnie worshippers who think that Ronnie is a great manager, and all the poor performances are down to the board, the referees and the fans, not supporting the team enough, and on the other side you have the realists, who think Ronnie is a terrible manager, who sit open mouthed when they hear the latest team selection, or sit watching in amacement at the team tactictics and formation on the field, or civer their ears when they hear Ronnie trying to put a gloss on another godawful performance.
07 Apr 2016 23:53:31
Obviously it's my opinion. It's quite simple though - if you think other players have done well this season then tell us who! Also I know fine well we would have to pay the going rate for a better quality of manager, I've specifically said that the board are culpable. I also specifically said I'd prefer a top manager to signing more squad players, so if your going to slate me at least read the posts.
08 Apr 2016 00:15:46
is nothing to do with paying the going rate, is to do with getting a manager, who can manage, i would suggest that you could take any of the premier managers at the minute and they would do a better job than Ronnie, Ronnie stuck on a system, he does'nt know how to get out the groove, he stands gobsmacked when things don't work out on the field as they are supposed to in the manual, he should think on the word 'team', make a team, try to play same eleven every week, develop relationtionships understandings, what chance have players got when they have different teammates every week.
08 Apr 2016 01:11:45
problem is we will never again get a top manager whilst the current regime are in charge that's my point you and other's on here spout all these manager's names who would never come to celtic in it's current state and think if we got rid of ronny one of them will replace him and that won't happen the reason we have ronny is he had a good record with his previous team not just taking underdogs to the title but also development of player's the powers at be at celtic these days care more about balance sheet's than team sheet's.
08 Apr 2016 03:04:58
It would be that black and white in your mind aindoh - you're either a Ronny worshipper who hangs out his backside so much, you even take the time to look up the guys actual name, or you're a 'realist' whose jaw (and knuckles) drag the ground every time Scott Allan doesn't get a game ahead of the Norway, Israel, or SCOTLAND captain.
08 Apr 2016 08:06:49
Forget Scott A;;an, just put some creativity into the team, Ronnie prefers physicality to creativity, he would rather have a team of automatons playing the scandinaviavian way, than a team with more ball players than lung busters.
08 Apr 2016 11:03:49
Only a few month ago aindoh you were banging on about RD having his favourites. Now it's too much roatation? Even though a lot if it is forced. Next month you'll be saying we need more physical players I bet.
08 Apr 2016 11:57:59
Aindoh-
I'm in neither of your counter productive categories/ sides.
08 Apr 2016 15:13:38
I'm the first to criticise Ronny when it's due, I definitely don't get the big deal about squad rotation though. It would be different if he was changing the back 4/ keeper regularly but the only part of the team he's changing is the 3 behind the strikers who are all off the cuff type players anyway. The back 4 and 2 holding midfielders are the players who have to be drilled more/ be more disciplined. We've had injuries there so I don't blame Deila for that. My problem is the players don't seem to be playing the system properly, as well as that they aren't even playing to their potential, never mind above themselves! I absolutely blame the players but a five year old knows that it all comes from the manager. Either he's not coaching them properly, and if he is why is he playing them. For me (when playing to their level) Lustig, Brown, Biton and Johansen should be the first 4 players on the team sheet. I can't think of one game this season when I'd even give 1 of them an 8 out of 10. It obvious question is why!
08 Apr 2016 17:13:25
No matter who is in charge, the problems will still always be there untill we see the back of DD, PL and JP.
08 Apr 2016 17:16:02
Agree there delphic with the rotation. You want your defence to be as regular as possible, but we've had a shocking time. Jozo and Sviatchenko haven't played together. Same with CM, but for me, to a lesser extent.
With regards to the 4 mentioned players. Bit harsh on Johansen and especially Bitton. Lustig is done. Brown and Johansen should have been rested more, but quality competition is sparse. All over the park really.
08 Apr 2016 22:09:10
Aindoh I suggest your post about taking any Premier league manager and he would do a better job than R D, is poor shoite of the highest degree and illustrates that u know nothing about what is involved in managing a big club like Celtic.
We have often signed players who have done well with other SPL clubs, only for them to fail as a Celtic player.
Ballygal67 why do some poster on here only post condemning or ridiculing R D .
Why have they nothing else to post about?
If they hadn't an anti RD chip on their shoulder they would find something else to post about .
I have to say in recent weeks more posters have adopted a fairer and realistic posting.