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07 Apr 2016 13:05:57
Hi Bond and Celtic fans, being a United fan I've a certain affection for Celtic, I always as a young pup used to get the Celtic kits aswell as the United ones.
Anyway what I wanted to ask you guys is what your opinion of Ronny Diela is? A friend of mine who is a Celtic fan thinks if you've any hope to get champs league next season you'd need to replace Ronny, is that the general consensus here that you need someone else to enhance you?
Thanks guys.

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07 Apr 2016 13:33:18
Well IMO mate your friend is spot on! For us to Have any sort of chance at CL qualification or even a run in the EL then the manager must be replaced as soon as this season is over. because as he's proved 3 times now, he cannot get us in the CL and his last EL campaign was nothing short of an embarrsment! And no matter what some on here feel about giving him more time, he has to go! Because u could give him the next 5 years trying to qualify and would fail every time!

07 Apr 2016 13:59:00
As you red devil must know you can employ a manager who thinks he is the greatest in the world and you can give him a massive budget to spend but success is not quaranteed . m
Lucky for us we have a manager on the road to two in a row and 5 in a row as far as club is concerned . I am happier with a manager who can keep winning our league rather than talk about what he has or could do.

07 Apr 2016 13:59:49
Hi mate, I can only answer for myself and family/ friends that I go to the games with. You have to call it as you see it, and take personality out of it because we all know Ronny is the salt of the earth and very intelligent. Bottom line - if the great man Tommy Burns was still with us, and was manager you would still have to be honest if he made mistakes. As long as you are being constructive and backing it up. For me it's quite simple, I honestly don't see how this season could have been any worse, well unless we actually lose the league, and looking at how healthy we are financially, that would obviously be the biggest embarrassment in the clubs history! Ronny says all the right things, but I don't see any off it - the fast, attacking dynamic, passing football hasn't happened, none of it, and everyone I speak to agrees. We still can't pass the ball, or control a game and Deila promised that also! In fact I think he's done the impossible - Scott Brown's passing has actually got worse! Another world record must be having 3 players (Griffiths, Teirney, Rogic) getting pass parks out of a squad of around 40) at a push you could maybe include Gordon, and exclude the ones just in the door, still I think we've used 46 players and really only 2 have been very good over a whole season. I honestly can't see how that's humanly possible! It's all about timing, there are a few top managers available, I'd like someone a bit more streetwise, with more of an aura. I mentioned Hiddink about a month ago, Ed spoke about him as a DOF, - I just think we need to do something more imaginative. If you listen to some fans we'd never do anything, any top manager (even out of work) you mention are supposedly way out of league, well if you start with that thinking they will be. I'd prefer we brought in a top manager and/ or DOF and a decent striker to bringing in another 5 bloody squad players.

07 Apr 2016 15:14:19
The majority of Celtic fans I know have run out of patience with RD and although we are firm favourites to win the title for the fifth time in a row and should do the double - the confidence and gut feeling among many supporters is not favourable.
This season has been very erratic in terms of form/ performances and attendances at home have reflected our inconsistency.
An early exit from Europe was disappointing, but should have given the team more time, energy and determination for domestic dominance, but we have stuttered and faltered far too often.

Although Ronnie seemed to recover from a very difficult initial period after NL left and won two trophies in his first season, there has not been the consolidation and steady progress expected with too many players performing well below the standard they set themselves and too many new arrivals have had mixed fortunes.
However the current state of Scottish football and the very limited resources in terms of transfer budget/ wages makes it very difficult to attract any manager or even player of real quality so although a lot of us feel a change is required, it may not be as easy as it sounds; although there will be no lack of interest.
Incidentally, Man Utd my first football strip as a lad, as where we lived, my father thought it was too risky to wear a Celtic top - or even wear a scarf going to the games; [No mean City ha ha] -so I have always had a soft spot for the Reds.

07 Apr 2016 16:34:50
No your friend is wrong! Funny how this is a new profile set up. Clearly an attempt to troll.

{Ed007's Note - (facepalm) .........(blush) (rofl)

07 Apr 2016 17:48:42
I don't think you can pick any experienced manager even a very successful manager& expect him to be a Good Director of Football.
Also in my opinion. A good D O F and Manager are more likely to come in a packet starting at the one time . I think if you have the D of F in place, a Manager can start working where a Director is already in place but it isn't fair and unlikely to have a manager in place and appointing a D O F.

07 Apr 2016 18:10:03
Appreciate the posts and varying opinions interesting to hear.
Yea clearly I'm a prolific troller whose just set up a profile to come on the Celtic page and ask a normal question, oh apart from the 3 years I've been a regular on the United page that is 😂 I'm busted Bond lol.

{Ed007's Note - :=D

07 Apr 2016 18:17:38
I have hope of the CL with RD as manager.

07 Apr 2016 18:29:54
What do u base this hope on jimtim? I cannot wait to here this!

07 Apr 2016 19:26:41
DN30 you are paranoid.

07 Apr 2016 19:30:48
I with you Delph, the manager is the most important person at the club and sets the standards.He talks the talk but can't walk the walk.
I would rather spend 5m on a manager for next 3 years than another 2 signings.

07 Apr 2016 19:46:49
What does anybody base hope on Beav? Hope is wanting something to happen. Me, wanting Celtic to qualify for the CL, is having hope that we will.

07 Apr 2016 20:57:52
Well I would base my hope of us making the CL on what I see with the team on the pitch and how the manager gets the best out the players at his disposal! And on both counts we've not a hope in hell of making the CL under this current management team!

07 Apr 2016 21:37:11
So to be clear Beav, you don't hope Celtic qualify for the Champion's League next season?

07 Apr 2016 22:13:14
The only way I'll have some hope is if the managers changed! There's no hope if we go in at the 4th time of asking with the same management team!

07 Apr 2016 22:22:41
R D is our best chance of Qualifying for the Champions League .
If we get rid of him we will either get a manager to continue the way he has gone, add just a couple of players and use our young players who are gaining more and more experience.
Or we could get a more experience manager who will rip the present squad apart and bring in players from English Championship and English League 1 and we will spend the next year or two ripping ourselves apart, blaming board, blaming everyone but never accepting Scottish Football is at a low ebb and maybe we should try to encourage and build confidence in what we have .
There are queues and queues of out of work bad managers who would jump at our club, but would any of them be any better.

07 Apr 2016 22:53:30
RD is our best chance of qualifying for the champions league! That's what Malmo molde and Legia warsia thought to! And 2 out that 3 were spot on! Usually I don't answer this guy but dear oh dear! I'll give u one thing, your consistent in the utter nonsense you spout!

07 Apr 2016 23:07:58
Flump me old bhoy, I'm in drink and always promise myself not to reply but you always bring the worst out in me . Why would we be interested in a cue of bad managers? Why not try and have a cue of good managers . I bet your the type of person over the moon you got two numbers on the lottery . It's obviously better than one or no numbers.

07 Apr 2016 23:40:06
Flump was an obvious spelling mistake . Not a word I would normally use Haha.

08 Apr 2016 02:45:25
Think you're confusing hope with another word Beav. Chance? If so, you're definitely wrong.

08 Apr 2016 07:08:25
Well u enlighten me Jim Tim, why am I wrong? Give me a few reasons why I'm wrong?

08 Apr 2016 11:45:05
Beav the OP asked for peoples thoughts on the notion that if we want to qualify for next season's CL we'd need to replace Ronny. Incorrect. It's possible RD will get Celtic to the CL. That's the only reason I need to give you to be honest.

08 Apr 2016 12:07:27
And I want to know why u think it's possible for a guy who's 3 previous attempts at CL qualification have been a disaster will have any hope or chance to get us in? There must be some reason for your confidence in RD. so what is it?

08 Apr 2016 12:24:26
Are we talking about hope or our chances? Our chances are slim, and rightly so. Draw depending, with the right additions, and providing key partnerships aren't sold, I don't see why not. But where we are as a club, I really don't expect it. Just hope. I'd actually like to know what it is that has so many people demanding CL football from RD actually. He's been flogged all season since the Malmo game. A lot of the players and fans haven't quite recovered from that gutless performance. RD felt as let down as you or I though believe me. As he's been slated all season for not doing it, if he does do it, he'll deserve a statue outside getting this team in the CL. I said when the EL squad was announced, on paper, we don't look EL standard never mind CL. But, it's cup football and as Malmo overcame the odds, we can. And I'd hope to see it done with RD in charge. But as things stand, I don't demand it.

08 Apr 2016 13:30:32
A statue! Haha u for real? Ok let's take the CL out the argument for a minute then. u say on paper we're not even a EL team. then tell me why molde with a fraction of our budget topped our group this season and humped us home and away? Why is that? And u say RD felt as let down with the CL exit than as you or me, which I can only talk for myself in saying is nonsense! Then why did we have an utter embarrsment of a EL campaign? If he felt that let down why didn't he get hold of the players and say let show everyone doubting us what we can do in EL! No instead of that we go winless and are on the verge of the EL all time record winless streak! There is no defending this guy! But it seems it's exuse after exuse! And I'll go back to start of your post, why are fans demanding RD get us into the CL! Because that's his job. he's came up against teams with hugely inferior budget 3 times tryin to get there, and failed 3 times! Now if we were sitting here and we had been put out by the 3rd or 4th place team in Spain England ect then I would understand, but we have not! And if he remains in charge the same thing will happen again, and I'd put my mortgage on it!

08 Apr 2016 14:56:11
That's some bet, I dare you then beav! ;)

08 Apr 2016 16:15:14
I would Jim but she wouldn't be happy! 😂😂😂.

08 Apr 2016 17:11:31
So who do you see as the right man to get us into the CL? And how long would you give them?

08 Apr 2016 20:14:27
JT for me you ask the wrong question mate. Its not how long do we give a new manager. Its how long do we give RD, he on 0-3 the now.
Is it 4, 5, 6 ??
As the poster says if we were playing top class outfits like in years before then we wudnt expect to qualify.But the last 3 occasions every Celtic fan was rubbing their hands in glee.

08 Apr 2016 21:00:21
No it was the right question. Who should our new manager be, and how many seasons would they be given to qualify for the CL? I'd give RD another season as things stand.

09 Apr 2016 17:25:08
Again people seem to know the problem, but not the answers.







 

 

 
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