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08 Feb 2016 21:34:57
I can't remember ever being this torn over whether or not to stick or twist with a Celtic manager. I feel sorry for Ronny given he has little say in recruitment, both of players and backroom staff, and I think things could have/ could be different if he had total control. However, his inability to learn from his mistakes or to come up with a plan B has absolutely destroyed any credibility we had in europe. How many big games have we actually won this season, including domestically? Papped out the CL qualifiers, winless in the EL, 2 defeats to our nearest rivals and defeat in a cup semi. Just not good enough. My heart would love Ronny to turn it around but head says there's no chance of that happening. One things for sure, if Ronny is to be sacked then Collins and Kennedy must go too! If another manager has to work with that pair we will see little to zero improvement!

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08 Feb 2016 22:57:53
I agree I don't think the problem is with Ronny and I'm convinced if we were to get rid of Collins and allow him to bring in his own choice of assistant we would see a big improvement. Maybe sounds daft to think that one man can destroy the morale of a dressing room but I fully believe this man is capable of doing just that. I despise him, with just looking at him and listening to him his arrogance shines through.

{Ed007's Note - Don't hold back there, Stevie!}

08 Feb 2016 23:39:03
How is a new assistant going to improve the team exactly?

08 Feb 2016 23:45:39
Ice man it would improve things drastically you look at how meny sir Alex had over the years each one better than the last apart from Smith of course lol.

{Ed007's Note - Carlos Queiroz doesn't get enough credit for the part in AF's success at Utd, especially in Europe. It was Queiroz that took training and worked on tactics etc. and for a long time he was seen by many as AF's natural successor.}

09 Feb 2016 00:03:51
I have had my doubts too - and on the assistant thing, it's not so much the bringing in of an assistant to instantly improve us, but it will take away an assistant that clearly has disrupted/ demotivated the squad and even contradicted the manager in interview.
There are several players who who improve in attitude, confidence and form, if Collins was not there, but the club don't see it or still don't trust RD to get it right without 'their man' in the shadows?

09 Feb 2016 00:13:16
An assistant/coach has to have the likeability factor amongst the players as he probably spends far more time with them on the training ground , a manager in my opinion comes into it half an hour before kick off and have the ability to make his players feel like they are world beaters

{Ed007's Note - I mentioned that the other night, Stevie. The assistant manager should be a well respected coach and ex-player or a bit of one of the lads, within reason. The assistant is the buffer and link between the manager and the players. I don't care what gets said in public there is no way Scott Brown and JC have a good working relationship and between the captain and the assistant that's never going to go work well.
I'm pretty sure past managers of our club would tell us (some if they could) how important the assistant manager is, from Stein through to TB, Wim Jansen, MON and NL.}

09 Feb 2016 00:22:48
Think your out of order to be fair Stevie! U despise John Collins! Do u know the guy personally to come up with such utter pish? I know Collins has been known for his ego, there's no getting away from that! But to use the word despise for a man who I loved watchn play in the hoops next to the Masetro is utter crap! Who would people on here say has been our best and most improved player this season? I would guess a large number would say griffiths, the same griffiths who's stated that it's John Collins who has been most help for him in training and helping him improve! That kind of Shoite wouldn't be out of place on the sevco page pal! Bang out of order! U could bring any assistant u could care to mention and it still wouldn't make a difference to ronnie! The guy just hasn't got it to manage our club! As has been proved, and will continue to be proved with each passing game! His time has been up for a while now, but lawell doesn't have the balls to come out and admit his idiotic projects went tits up! Now if your looking for a man with arrogance shining through then look no further than lawell! A flame thrower wouldn't mark that neck!

{Ed007's Note - RD isn't here to manage the club - that's Lawwell's job. You're accusing him of failing at things that aren't even his responsibility now.}

09 Feb 2016 00:31:44
Not buying it at all! Can't see how getting rid off Collins would make the difference! Don't get me wrong i'd prefer it if he left along with Kennedy and RD! Would also like to see park and Lawell out the door too and start from scratch but can't see how Collins alone would make a blind bit of difference.

09 Feb 2016 01:42:43
The Collins one for me is a complete mystery! Not once has anyone come up with any hard facts about John Collins being a current problem! We all know about the previous with Brown, and that he's supposed to be arrogant etc etc! How someone can say they despise him because of rumours is bizarre! Scott Brown and Leigh Griffiths are very close and Griffiths said only last week how much (JC) - his words, had helped him! He said Collins stays behind with him after training to work on finishing together! Young Nesbitt said a couple of months ago that Collins had been a huge influence on his development! Bottom line, Ronny is there and if he had anything about him he would overrule anything the other coaches say that he doesn't agree with! We all know Deila is Lawwell's project, and how much he loves him so if Ronny wasn't happy with John Collins he'd be out the door! For me we need to get a complete new team in! Ideally including Lawwell and Park!

09 Feb 2016 09:34:08
I think that we're all in agreement that Lawwell is the dictator, with Park running around after him looking for project after bloody project! Lawwell also deals with contracts etc. So really bottom line is Ronny is the head coach, with Collins and Kennedy as assistant coaches! The 3 of them are on the training pitch every day! From what I've seen and heard, Collins does most of the attacking/ passing drills and Kennedy the defensive! Ronny oversees all this/ stands at the sides, but also joins in and does certain sessions also! Every morning before the 3 of them go on to the training pitch they discuss/ decide the exact training programme for that day - this is done all over the world! So anyone can blame Collins and Kennedy for mistakes, and our inability to be a good team and beat poor - average teams is nonsense! Ronny is there every day and controls it. He is to blame, but the other 2 don't seem to be helping, and they are there to assist! Fergie was brilliant at choosing assistants, as well as Queiroz, he raved about Steve McClaren. The players have to respect these guys as people and tactically, and I think Queroz was especially good at both. Ferguson wouldn't be there all the time though he would help decide the sessions let the coaches do it then come for the last half hour or have lunch with them, so he would hear back from players and the coaches how it went etc etc! Deila is standing watching it every day, he is there constantly (in general) he can see how players are responding, he can see if Kennedy is useless with coaching the defence, he can decide to go man for man instead of zonal if he wants! He can see if players don't like Collins/ if he is being arrogant! For God's sake, - Ronny has to take responsibility, and to be fair I think he is, I've never once heard him be negative towards his coaching staff! It's simply not working, sometimes we analyse things to much! Maybe the 3 of them are average, maybe the 3 are great coaches but don't inspire! Whatever way we look at it its not working!

09 Feb 2016 10:36:09
I keep hearing that RD is not responsible for this or not in control of that. What exactly can he be held accountable for? Lot of folks on here seem to think he is completely blameless, which is clearly ridiculous. And if he is not at fault for any of our woes, how will he be in a position to make things better?

09 Feb 2016 10:43:49
There are different levels of coaches iceman, it's quite simple.

09 Feb 2016 10:06:39
Is Ronnie not the manager ED? I'm accusing him of him of not being up to the job of being manager! How is that not his responsibility! I've said its lawells fault for appointing him. far to many people on here tryin to search for a reason not to blame Ronnie for my liking. there were was actually somebody on here blaming the press for us being Shoite the other day for gods sake! Yes he hasn't been helped by lawell and the board and yes the quality of player isn't the same! But that team is clueless spineless and lacks any sort of leadership! And will continue to be so with Ronnie in charge!

{Ed007's Note - RD is still not the manager of the club.}

09 Feb 2016 13:19:34
Is R D not managing / coaching Celtic in the same way as most managers/ coaches operate in most Leagues . It seems to me that most owners, or an appointed director make the decision re players coming in . Chelsea and Liverpool managers are just two examples of people working with hands behind their back . To listen to the special one Mourinho, one would be forgiven for thinking that he had complete. Control.

09 Feb 2016 14:56:33
No head coach these days manages the club. But i'm a bit old school and think that a manager should have more of a say than I think RD has, particularly with recruitment.

I'm led to believe RD highlighted Elyounoussi. But JP and PL opted for Richards. Unfathomable.

09 Feb 2016 15:31:44
And here was me thinking we needed a new chief exec, chief scout, manager, goalkeeper, centre half, creative midfielder and striker when all along all we needed was a new assistant manager! Silly me.

09 Feb 2016 16:09:51
We could do with all of that Ice Man. But replacing Collins for a more qualified coach would make A difference. Might have misread your post slightly.

09 Feb 2016 16:16:51
To me at the end of the day upstairs have to take a long look at how the club is run Because as it is its not working the way as it is. The manager should say what players he wants the board should have ONLY job in that respect to try to bring in that player like wise management team The manager should have the say as to who he wants for his back room staff and not the Board that way the Manager takes the blame rightly so if it goes pear shaped as it is WE blame every one and I feel sorry for RD for being in that position PL PLEASE do the right thing and let the MANAGER do his job AND YOU STICK TO YOUR JOB.

09 Feb 2016 16:31:06
I hear what you're saying Jim Tim but unfortunately our problems lay much deeper than Collins or RD for that fact! Sad times.

09 Feb 2016 16:31:33
When did the assistant manager do anything more than put out cones and carry out a bag of balls . Sure when doing that he cannot be too disruptive .

09 Feb 2016 17:22:32
Martin Oneil rarely ventured onto the training ground he left it to Walford and Robertson , but what O'Neil had that Ronny probably hasn't was superb man management skills. Always remember Larsson saying the talk O'Neil gave the team 10 mins before they walked out at Anfield for the Uefa cup qtr final was the best he had ever heard in his career. A superb motivator, charismatic and respected in my opinion is essential to be a successful manager







 

 

 
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