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03 Feb 2016 23:45:55
To the fans who support "the bigger picture" and believe in RD, i say this, you are part of the problem now, your continued support of this manager is music to the ears of PL and the board. Even though you now see the damage being done your still willing to stand idly by and watch it happen. You don't want to admit your error and look foolish. Shame on you, Time for change and time to admit that its a failed experiment.

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04 Feb 2016 00:14:21
As always- big suggestions with little ideas.

04 Feb 2016 00:23:58
Here's a suggestion sack the manger tomorrow, see a timescale as well.

04 Feb 2016 00:40:25
Was thinking similar on Sunday sitting at Hampden listening to the GB singing their hearts out right till the end. Reminded me of one of my pet hates The tartan army getting horsed but singing their hearts out I.e accepting defeat. Would prefer a bit of disharmony then things might change quicker

04 Feb 2016 00:45:58
That's exactly my point. Sack RD and what? I keep hearing he must go but no names as to who would take over; no reasons why people think the board, recruiting and fans, would be any different under another manager.

04 Feb 2016 03:28:41
I will give you a name Moyes, before you mention Man O, Old purple nose brought him in to fail.
He did a Great job at everton.

04 Feb 2016 06:32:42
Poeticpatient, you have mentioned, not for the first time, that there are no names mentioned as a replacement and that what would really change under a new manager.

As for the names well that's up to the club not for us to scout a possible new manager. As for what would change. well Chelsea couldn't stop losing under Jose, changed their manager and haven't lost in 10 games since he left so i suggest quite a lot can change with a new managers ideas, training methods, tactics, awareness, ability to adjust to situations etc. If your hearts with RD then fair enough but give it a rest that a new manager won't change anything.

04 Feb 2016 06:54:38
Tpp, you seem to be trolling with smug quips to everyones posts. So please use your superior knowledge, wisdom and wit and at least show us the way forward. You must have the answer to all our clubs problems. Please enlighten us, the poor ordinary fan who dare try to suggest we change things much to your annoyence. Pray tell.

04 Feb 2016 10:10:22
JB--
I like Moyes - but that just isn't realistic. I would be happy to be wrong - but even if we did, the mechanics of the club won't change. We'd still be dealing in the same world from a recruitment PoV.

G--
I haven't mentioned that at all. I've asked who do people think we will get? What do they think will change? Two completely different things.

As for the rest of your post - you just make my point. It's up to the board to find a manger, it's only up to us to decide when to sack him. And then the merry go round continues. And your JM example is deeply flawed for two reasons. Firstly, all you've shown is that having a world class manager guarantees nothing if the clubs structure is counter productive to him doing his job, and that even in the event of change, this remains the same. That group of players should be well on top but have struggled badly - and since GH arrival, they may not have lost but compare his first ten games with JM last ten. Not much difference in terms of points given that GH has drawn so many.

BB--

As always the hypocrisy runs strong in you. I'm not claiming to know the way forward. You are. I don't have the answer to all our clubs problems. You do. I'm just asking you to share with us what happens after RD is sacked-- a question you avoided I might add, in favour of making this about me.

I'm not an RD apologist - but the hypocrisy and contradictory posts are getting ridiculous. And when someone dares question it, they are a troll who posts smug quips. You'd do well to read your own attempts at such (ie your entire post to me) before calling out others. But again, hypocrisy.

I'm asking questions. Some of you are making statements. Which is more likely to start a debate, and which is more likely to lead to lead down an intellectual dead end?

04 Feb 2016 10:51:20
no poetic patient you are not asking questions you are constructing straw men arguments. RD position is not tenable. the board may keep the downsizing approach and that will influence who comes into scope to be the next manager. however the real point is that RD is incompetent and it is highly likely another manger could work within the constraints and still achieve a more effective team, that can defend a corner for example. All RD difficulties are not down to the board room the majority of them are down to him being a poor manager? it is a toxic mixture of grandiosity and tactically naivety.

04 Feb 2016 10:58:20
That's not a straw man argument. Ironically, what you have just done is.







 

 

 
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