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24 Jan 2016 00:11:32
Not always been Rd biggest fan but when you think of gms Armstrong Christie and Allan the future is good we have a young team mixed with lustig brown ect he has the right idea hail hail.

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24 Jan 2016 08:52:05
This is the reason I want Deila to remain at Celtic, if not as manager, then as head of development. However, I am off the opinion that he has shown enough as manager to continue in the roll for a while longer.

As you pointed out, we have the makings of a good team who should be together for a good number of years.

Here are the players that I think deserve to be in the squad:

Craig Gordon 33
Emilio Izaguirre 29
Efe Ambrose 27
Jozo Šimunović 21
Nir Bitton 24
Nadir Çiftçi 23 (I would give him another season)
Scott Brown 30
Leigh Griffiths 25
Stuart Armstrong 23
Kris Commons 32
Gary Mackay-Steven 25
Ryan Christie 20
Tom Rogić 23
Scott Allan 24
Dedryck Boyata 25
Saidy Janko 20
Mikael Lustig 29
Stefan Johansen 25
Logan Bailly 30
Erik Sviatchenko 24
Leonardo Fasan 22
Callum McGregor 22
James Forrest 24
Kieran Tierney 18
Aidan Nesbitt 18

I think the only position that has older players is GK but it is also a position that you can play until you are 40 so it is not a major problem.

24 Jan 2016 11:46:39
Rabmac good shout about Deila moving to Head of Devolopment think he would be more suited in that role, hopefully Park is shunted either sideways or out the door completely.

24 Jan 2016 13:21:06
Aye right! He develops players in his tenure, rebuilds a piss poor squad yet still has very good chance of leading club to treble. First treble since strachan. "Ronny you have conquered domestically, here is a nice wee demotion for all your hard work! " Lmfao Timalloy!

24 Jan 2016 13:29:53
Strachan did not win a treble :P.

24 Jan 2016 14:00:33
DN30, what manager in Scotland's top flight would not be fancied to clean up domestically, with our squad, and against the level of opposition we are up against?
You make it sound as if he's the only manager in world football who would be able to achieve this.
I think this is Ronny's comfort zone, you may well believe that he is one of the worlds top managers because he can manage to get the better of Stranraer and Hamilton, but I prefer to wait and see how he gets on when we play some half decent opposition in the CL qualifiers, I don't think that he can afford to fail again.

24 Jan 2016 14:21:34
I really don't get some fans obsession with European football.

24 Jan 2016 15:06:29
Gerryc, here is something for you to ponder. How well did Ally McCoist do with a greater budget difference when he was in the Championship? Also, would you expect Mixu Paatelainen to win the league with Celtic [I know I wouldn't]?

{Ed007's Note - And you only face half decent opposition in the CL qualifiers (giggle) Inter Milan, Ajax and Fenerbahce might have something to say about that.}

24 Jan 2016 15:14:24
Scottish football is at an all time low just now so don't you poet want to see us play against better teams? Which can only be in Europe Or is domestic matches really that good. Our league is so bad Hamilton and killie still have a chance to finish in the top six. lol.

24 Jan 2016 15:40:02
I support Celtic - not the competition they happen to compete in.

I'm 31, so I grew up during the barren years. The first trophy I saw us win was the Scottish Cup in 95'. The first league I saw us win was the 97/ 98 championship. Maybe I'm old fashioned in that I love winning the league, the Scottish Cup and the League Cup. Every one of those means something to me - but maybe I wasn't spoilt by the MO/ GS years.

As for Europe, I loved playing Croatia Zagreb at Celtic Park (and winning) as it was my first taste of the Champions League as a Celtic fan. But I hated getting turned over in the second leg. At no point, even as a young kid, did I enjoy "just being there".

As fhe UEFA cup run - LOVED IT - but only because we competed. I have ZERO interest in watching us get beat 5 out of 6 games, just to hear the champions league music - or play "the big teams".

As for your comment about Hamilton and Killie, I'm staggered by the arrogance of some Celtic fans - they are becoming more and more like Rangers fans with every passing minute. Why can't/ shouldn't Killie or Hamilton finish in the top six if they earn it? What has that got to do with anything? How bad must the EPL be if Leicester City are leading it?

24 Jan 2016 15:47:40
European football is important in my opinion because of the revenue it brings to the club, the prestige it brings to the club, and hopefully a reversal in the drop in attendances we have been seeing in the last few years.
Domestic success is great, but if it isn't coupled with CL qualification, then in my view we will become smaller year on year, you can see this in the last couple of seasons with the drop in crowds, and the quality of players we are signing.
Sevco would love to boast that them coming up would boost our income and crowds, they would be shouting from the rooftops that Celtic need them, and can't do without them.
I want Celtic to grow as a club by ourselves, and to show we can be successful without the help of cheats and bigots.

24 Jan 2016 16:15:44
This has got nothing to do with "cheats and bigots" and to be honest, once someone has to resort to including them in the argument, it's clearly got away from them.

This is about Celtic - and this revenue chat is totally pointless. If we make 20+m from the Champions League, we don't build on it and invest it into the team. We made the last 16 and got worse - what is so difficult to understand about that? We are always going to be a team that competes in the SPFL and our team will reflect that. If that league is stronger, so will we be.

As I say, I don't mind Europe but I want to compete - I have no interest in being in a competition and getting horsed every game just because it brings in money or prestige. (As much as it can when you are getting battered left right and centre) If you want to celebrate spread sheets and bank balances then, to paraphrase Bobby Brown, that's your prerogative - but I won't.

Finally, being in Europe won't affect our crowds outwith the European games. Too many fair weather fans for that.

24 Jan 2016 16:39:16
Think your getting mixed up poet you say you support Celtic not the competition yet say you don't want to be in a competition if we can't compete?well I support Celtic in all competitions and want to compete against the best teams as that is where you should aim for. If we get beat 5/6-0 I won't be happy but I won't lower my expectation to want to be in a lesser competition because we might compete.
As for your snide remark about Celtic fans becoming more like sevco fans because I pointed out our league is piss poor what are fans supposed to say about Hamilton and killie they're good? Grow up and answer a question and stop saying you're like sevco like a spoil brat.

24 Jan 2016 16:47:36
Did u really just say to paraphrase bobby brown! Dear oh dear! And u expect any of your posts to be takin seriously! Pissing myself laughing at that one 😂😂😂😂😆😆😆😆😆.

24 Jan 2016 17:24:46
It was a joke Beav81 but rest assured - few of us take anything you post seriously.

Jim, settle down, you're embarrassing yourself more than usual. If you can't see the arrogance (and entitlement) spewing out from some of our fans recently -- the same arrogance and entitlement that some of the worst Rangers fans reek of -- then I can't help you. You can take a horse to water and all that.

As for contradicting myself - I'm not at all. The point was in relation to fans who don't rate domestic football. It was never an either or with me. I have no problem with being in Europe and will support the team in any/ every way I can. My point is that I have no interest in being in Europe for being in europes sake- which a lot of fans seem to think is the barometer of success.

24 Jan 2016 18:07:51
Aye it sounded like a joke! No no that was the rest of the pi$h u posted! And u say jims embarssing himself! Comin from the 1st person in history to mention Bobby brown on a fitba forum! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 no matter what guff u post from now on that's all u'll be remembered for! But I guess that's your prerogative! 😆😆😆😆😆😆.

24 Jan 2016 18:21:04
I think some people are losing the plot here, The League the 2 cups are the bread and butter of our team. The stature of Celtic FC DEMANDS that we play CL football every season, that is not an aspiration, but a Fact. There are a lot of people on here who once they see a decent win think that theBoard and Manager should not be accountable for the shambles that we now find ourselves in, i. e. We do not play to a CL or EL standard, we can only beat what is put in front of us league and cup wise, but in Europe we should be able to take our place at the table every season and account for ourselves.
I keep saying it, lose RD, JC and jK now, these are dragging the stature of Celtic FC through the ditches,25 players have come and gone in the last 18 mths, we do not have the High Press, super Fit attractive footballing side that we were promised, we will not have this game in the next 18 mths if we keep this mgt team in place.

24 Jan 2016 18:24:15
Aye okay Beav.

If you constantly post a Bobby Brown comment from here on out- it'll be worth it as it will have sufficiently improved the mince you usually (attempt to) say.

I'll take a leaf out of EDs book and leave you to it. There really is no point in debating with a walloper. Good luck with your attempt to win the most literal username award.

24 Jan 2016 18:31:20
Poeticpatient, you may well not be bothered about the drop in crowds and the poor quality signings, but I think we should be trying to be better than that.
It goes without saying that I support Celtic whoever we play, and whatever competition, but that doesn't stop me wanting us to reach our full potential, surely that's what most fans want from their team.
It seems a bit hypocritical to me that we mock sevco for being a big team in a small league, yet we are quite happy to be in the same position ourselves.
I want Celtic to win the league, and I want us to win the cups, but I don't want our ambitions to end there, qualifying for the Champions league is well within our abilities in my opinion, so I think that it's a realistic target for us.
If you don't strive to be the best you can be, then complacency will set in, and it won't be long before we are being overtaken by other Scottish clubs, and that would be disastrous in my view.

24 Jan 2016 18:52:58
Gerry I never said I wasn't bothered about the crowds, or poor signings, nor did I say anything about Rangers being a big team in a small league etc - so do me a favour and leave me out of your dressed up attempts to make a point/ respond to something no one said. If you wanna come out and make a point, just do it. You don't need to mask it as some sort of retort to me.

24 Jan 2016 18:45:43
Now now petal don't bring ED into it! your the one that's made an arse of yourself, no need to involve anyone else in it lol! Now your having a go at my username! your really going to hurt my feelings now 😂😂😂😂 and I'm the Waloper! Let's not get into the name calling pal, because 2 CAN PLAY THAT GAME! 😆😆😆😆😆😆😂😂😂.

24 Jan 2016 18:57:07
Malika, capitalising something doesn't make it fact.

24 Jan 2016 19:19:20
Just trying to EXPRESS myself.

24 Jan 2016 19:19:38
PP, it's not so much the fascination with Europe, but the disregard for Scottish football that staggers me.

Become hugely disillusioned by sections of our best fans in the world recently.

In recent months on here I've read:

The 8-1 win the other night being knocked down a peg because it wasn't Barcelona we were playing,

Ronnie Deila slammed for celebrating a win because it was against Hamilton,

Celtic aren't very good because Aberdeen are pushing us, despite them showing consistent improvement for several seasons now,

And the best, something along the lines of if RD won a treble he wouldn't deserve it.

Now people need to wake up and smell the coffee that we are indeed a Scottish club. If they can't celebrate and 8-1 win, or any domestic win for that matter, then they need to secondly, question what it is they are even doing with their lives, buut firstly, stop being a kill joy for the rest.

24 Jan 2016 19:43:10
Poeticpatient, the lower crowds and poor quality signings are actual facts, I don't need to use quotes from you, (which I didn't do anyway) the facts are there in black and white, so I don't know what point you are trying to make.
Again with my comment about sevco being a big team in a small league, I never said you had said it, but plenty of people have.
I suggest you take the time to actually read peoples replies, before you go off on your high horse.

24 Jan 2016 20:27:57
Jimtim, from my point of view, it's not dismissing Hamilton as they are not Barcelona, it that hammering them doesn't make us Barcelona.
However you try to dress it up, the standard of opposition in our league is shocking. I'm not blaming us for that, and we can only beat whoever is put in front of us, but all I'm saying is that beating teams like this doesn't make Ronny a managerial genius.
I think our problem is that once we are out of Europe, we are left with matches against very poor teams, and people end up losing reality about how good we actually are, when the tougher matches come at the start of the next season, it comes as a reality check.
I'm not saying for a minute don't enjoy winning domestic matches, I spend a fortune getting to them, I would just like to keep a sense of realism to things.
Winning matches against some pretty poor teams is great, but it doesn't make us a great team, or Ronny a great manager, we have to do a bit more than that.

24 Jan 2016 20:30:16
This is honestly boring me now.

@Gerry

"Poeticpatient, you may well not be bothered about the drop in crowds and the poor quality signings, but I think we should be trying to be better than that. "

I didn't say you quoted me, I said I never said I wasn't bothered about the crowds, or poor signings, which you clearly suggest above.

I suggest you read what you post next time - it's not up to me to decipher what you may or may not mean by it.

If you didn't mean me with regards to your Rangers comment then I apologize for that responding to that one. I'm not above admitting a mistake.

@Beav81

I don't expect you to get the ED reference, as it wasn't spelt out for you but any points I'd give you for your intimate knowledge of Bobby Brown's discography, are immediately lost due to your inordinate use of smiley/ emoticons to make your point.

You should hook up with Malika. Between your emojis and his excessive capitalization/ s, you may near something that resembles communication.

@JimTim

Spot on as usual. Couldn't agree more.

I'm done with the tit for tat stuff now. It's tedious, childish and life is short. I'm up for discussion/ debate but as for the rest, I'm out.

24 Jan 2016 21:20:33
I wouldn't argue with that gerry.
I want to see Celtic do well in Europe, and I would say that the tougher challenge of Europe is our frontier I'm not claiming us to be great or RD to be a genius though, just backing him.

24 Jan 2016 22:14:37
Older supporters like myself don't have an obsession with European football, but it was a big part of our lives, in a league where we are expected to win trophies and finish in the top two more often than not, there was always European football [short-lived maybe].
I was 11 when Celtic won in Lisbon and went to all the home games in the 1970 run towards the defeat to Feyenoord.
Obviously it wasn't always glorious European runs and victories since then, but every manager will be judged on big Jock's achievements and every team will be compared to 'The Lions' or more recently MON's Seville Squad.
It was never about money back then, more about glamour games and gifted players and the atmosphere at Celtic Park on a big European night. The expectancy for a lot of us is still domestic success, but the ambition of the players and manager must be to test themselves at a higher level.
The line of one of our oldest songs - Bring on the Spaniards by the score. shows the club have always had European dreams and so do the fans - even with the dire state of Scottish football and the current demise in Europe and lack of muscle - we have punched above our weight before and hopefully will do again.

24 Jan 2016 23:21:59
I don't understand this thread, at the start, some were saying that RD had accumulated a great bunch of good young players, now while I think that Celtic have accumulated a great bunch of young players, before it was the pro 'Ronnie is a great manager'brigade were blaming john park for accumulatin a great bunch of losers who were the reason for us losing games, because what can a manager do when he's got rubbish players, anyone with any sense can see that RD just isn't a manager, he has got a talent for bringing on young players (i think) , but the fact is Celtic have got the makings of a very good team, they have a great bunch of talented players, all they need is a manager who can use the talents of the players to the maximum, rather than a manager who has dreamed the dream, and has been to the mountaintop and seen that the path to rightednous is to play a certain system regardless of the players ability to play that system, the question is play the players that suits the system or play the system that suits the players, over to you Ronnie.

26 Jan 2016 18:42:30
Aindoh, is definitely becoming more like a Rangers supporter all the time, in fact like their deceased leader, going to the mountain top and seen the path to righted nous. I am sure R D will ignore your challenge and will continue to do what he thinks best .







 

 

 
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