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29 Nov 2015 10:58:09
Not been on for a while because I'm sick of listening to all the rd lover's with there bullshit stats about winning a league with no competition but ignoring the fact we have went through a Europa league campaign in a piss poor group without a single victory, it won't matter to these guys though as even costner and connery wouldn't be able to lay a glove on Ronnie according to his defender's but I read a post earlier that was absolutely ridiculous, it's ok to get pumped off a piss poor Ajax team because they won the champions league many moons ago and it is all the rangers media's fault because they are the one's who continue to play Gordon and won't give bailey a chance, they are the ones who play one up front no matter the opposition, they are the ones who play a 2-7-1 formation no matter how short it leaves us at the back and how ineffective it is up top . Ronnie and his tactics are shocking and the only reason we get away with it in Scotland is our player's are far superior to other teams, we can give players playing in Scotland a head start and catch them, we can let them created chance's because the majority of the time they are not good enough to take them, we can miss chances as with our superior players we will usually make a lot more than the opposition, but in Europe against teams closer to our budget and against players closer to our own players abilities, Ronnie is found wanting every time .

{Ed007's Note - So the wins are down to the players but losses are down to the manager? That seems fair enough.
Maybe we got beaten because the opposition players are better than ours just like we beat teams domestically because our players are better than the opposition.
All of a sudden we're some European superpower that should be sweeping away everyone who challenges our Europan dominance.}

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29 Nov 2015 11:32:54
Why are there players superior to ours ed? We certainly spend more money than the majority of teams from, Sweden, Norway, Holland, and Poland, so why are we not getting better players than them? A good manager earns his crust against teams with better players and bigger budgets, it's when his tactics and motivational skill come under more pressure and scrutiny, so far Ronnie has let us down on nearly every occasion. Players don't need to be as tactically aware or pumped up usually to beat teams who's players are not as good as them but it is necessary to beat teams who have players who are as good as yours, you need to get an extra yard from your players on these occasions and Ronnie does not seem capable of doing that .

{Ed007's Note - You're contradicting yourself here, that doesn't make any sense. Man Utd have spent nearly £200 million over the last 2 years and drew with PSV.}

29 Nov 2015 11:52:06
Ed you can't take 1 result from Man U and say that proves the point. Look at the last 10 games in Europe. 10 games no wins. Look at the EL results. 2 points out of s possible 15! We know the club is all over the place top to bottom but RD's record is poor. I think fab2 got it right.

{Ed007's Note - Ok we'll take 2, PSV beat Man Utd over in Holland. I still don't know what point you're trying to make. Is it just a case of Good Stuff = Not RD's fault and Bad Stuff = All RD's fault?}

29 Nov 2015 12:07:50
well said ed.
However, we should at least be getting better results against some of the recent teams we have played.
RD can put the tactics in place but, on the park, he can't tell the player with the ball who is charging down on goal while three teammates are alongside him, pass the ball. At some point the player has to make a decision - pass or shoot. That is down to quality and experience.
At present we keep selling our quality players (and not to your Barcelonas, Man City's, Bayerns etc. ) so we have what we have.
Pass or shoot? If shoot is the choice then at least get it on target.
Like you said, win then its the players, lose and its RD to blame.
As I said earlier, we should be doing better in EL but we are just not good enough or up for it and the manager can only do so much to motivate but if the players have not got any personal pride and motivation then we might as well shut up shop.
I don't think getting rid of RD is the answer but I do think we need change - spending policy, backroom staff and Scouts.

29 Nov 2015 12:28:51
So man u have a crap manager as well, I don't give a monkeys about them . I don't think we are anywhere near a European superpower you said that not me, but I really think with our superior budget, fan base, and facilities we should not be getting pumped home and away by molde, if you are happy at that level fine but the vast majority of Celtic fans I speak to think we should have the abilities to compete in what was a piss poor el group, do you not think we should be able to compete at that level?

{Ed007's Note - I still don't know what you're on about. A piss poor EL that has us, Ajax and Fenerbahce in it? And Molde have proven that they are a decent team, not many teams go to Turkey and win.
Would you have been happier if it was the same teams, the same results but it was in the CL?
If you watch the games I really don't know how you can say we're not competing, isn't drawing with Ajax in Amsterdam a good result, drawing with Fenerbahce? Add to that that most of the losses have came about by individual errors and downright bad luck, doesn't mean we aren't competing, remember the manager isn't allowed on the park to kick the ball for the players, did RD tell Ambrose to mess up that header, did RD tell Craig Gordon to continually let us down or Scott Allan to get robbed of the ball on Thursday?
You started off about us beating Scottish teams because we have better players yet we still drop points in the league occasionally, remember Fenerbahce has Van Persie, Nani and Meireles, who have we got on £75k a week?
You don't think Ajax or Fenerbahce have better players than us and we should be beating them - when we beat teams it's because we have better players but when we lose it's RD's fault because other teams can't/shouldn't have better players than us - I think we'll just leave it at that.}

29 Nov 2015 13:02:13
So if we take Gordon for example are you telling me a good strong manager wouldn't recognize he is constantly letting us down and give another keeper a couple of games to at least stake a claim?

{Ed007's Note - How do you know Bailly is any better, what's his fitness like, is he up to match sharpness or should RD just play him so the fans can give him pelters if he's not 100%?
Remember we had people bashing the manager for weeks for not playing Scott Allan, it didn't matter that he was injured according to them RD should have dropped Johansen for him.}

29 Nov 2015 13:24:26
Surely he should be up to scratch with his fitness after 6 months with us and your right how do we know he is any better, if only we had a way of finding out, maybe and I know this is outside the box thinking, we could give him a game or two . Maybe he has been pish in training but is one of those players who don't train well but rises to the occasion on match days, if only there was a way to find out, I know, and again this is just thinking outside the box, maybe we could give him a game or two .

{Ed007's Note - So if he's been rank rotten in training we should play because you want to see him? I'd imagine Stevie Woods keeps RD bang up to date with the GK situation - you do know that GKs don't do much training with the rest of the players don't you, unless it's bounce games or set pieces they train separately?
Are you now saying that Stevie Woods isn't a good GK coach?}

29 Nov 2015 14:03:07
Well he rates Gordon obviously and you don't seem to, so the question should be do you think he is a good goalkeeper coach, I don't pretend to know everything about everything or even be right all the time, I don't know enough about me woods or his abilities as a coach to judge him, maybe Gordon won't listen to him or is un coachable.

{Ed007's Note - Maybe.}

29 Nov 2015 14:14:00
What are you saying ed that no matter how many times cg let's us down, we should just play him every week and not take a chance that we may have a better keeper on our doorstep? No one other than rd and the coaches know who is playing well or not in training, so we should just assume because they are not playing that rd has called every decision right? What's the point of these pages then if that is what we are to assume. It's simple Gordon when we needed him most has let us down, so why not give someone else a chance, it's not just so I can see what he can do .

{Ed007's Note - Are you seriously on here accusing me of backing Craig Gordon?}







 

 

 
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