07 Nov 2015 22:30:59
In my opinion RD needs another year in that time I think he needs to pick his own back room staff and have last say in the new players we bring in then if he fails its all up to him no one else. He talks the talk would love to see him walk the walk.
08 Nov 2015 00:10:51
Mate I think it's widely regarded that he wanted the three boys from Dundee Utd after being impressed with them against us last season and also wanted the bombscare that is Boyata. His judgement appears to be poor in player recruitment, it's no coincidence for me we've suddenly went down the local recruitment route (Our Countries League) and Manchester recruitment route, a route Ronny frequented regularly whilst he was at Stromsgodset. Just for those four your talking £5M alone excluding wages and for me they have no-resale value between them certainly not what we paid for them as they're poor players imo there's a few more but these stand out for me and then when you add in the £40M or so we've lost through not qualifying for CL to years on the spin you can see why fans are becoming less and less convinced by Ronny like myself, his judgement of a player appears to be extremely poor and I wouldn't trust him with another window. He does talk the talk very well however I agree with that and the brand of football he talks about is what everyone wants to see but it doesn't look like becoming a reality.
08 Nov 2015 06:47:52
@celticforever that's just a bare faced lie in a shallow attempt to slander Ronny Deila. He had no say in transfers of cifti, armstrong or gms. Nor did he have a say in Boyata.
08 Nov 2015 08:35:04
Dn30 you should have read Chris suttons column in record yesterday he says he asked Ronny in an interview if he in charge of player recruitment and it was an emphatic yes. Now I might not agree with everything Sutton says but would he lie in a national paper about what Ronny said in an interview? personally I think Ronny has to go sooner rather later as when you start to divide the fans as Ronny is doing there is no way back. @tony2bhoy I read a lot of posters saying let him pick his own back room team. Does anyone know if Ronny isn't happy with them as he does a lot of talking but never criticises them it's actually only been praise I've seen from Ronny about them? If he has no say in transfer policy and isn't happy with the coaching team then he has to grow a backbone and tell everyone he's not happy as he is going to get sacked sooner or later.
08 Nov 2015 09:06:47
DN30,I admire your loyalty to a non experienced, Norwegian league standard manager and how you back him to the hilt shifting the blame to Lawwell and Co. Don't get me wrong they are as guilty as but these last 2 European results were against a team that are presently 6 th in a league played by part time footballers. I'm sure young Teirney is earning more than their best paid player. Are you suggesting that the Molde team are better man for man than the Celtic team?
What I will suggest is that a bunch of part time players were better prepared and drilled than we were. What I would also suggest is when Lawwell does bow to popular demand ( I'm sure like the rest of us he has realised he's made a major cock up) is maybe the Molde manager would have been a better option. He would fit right into Lawwell's cheap and cheerful strategy and seems to know how to prepare a team for the big mid week games we all thrive on.
Certainly wouldn't. be my choice but an acceptable step up from the present scenario we are lumbered with.
08 Nov 2015 09:45:41
I definitely think the 3 D Utd lads would have been put to Ronny, especially GMS and Armstrong, as I think Lawwell and Park realised they had wasted so much bringing in foreign signings that they should look closer to home/at Scottish talent. Boyata I think would have been Ronny's idea because he had watched him for years during his dealings with Man City while at Stromgodset, as far as I know Park suggested Danny Wilson (another young Scottish player) but Deila wanted Boyata! They obviously had a bet to see who could come up with the worst centre half! I blame Lawwell because no one really knows how much power Park has, so they can technically all blame each other while hiding in the shadows. Reading between the lines they must all sit and discuss it but I certainly think that before Deila came in it was decided they were going to go for young Scottish players! The only criteria should be ability, and that's the bit that they're all forgetting about. There is also no aggression in the team, - just watched Match Of The Day and that Berahino was scared to put his head through a ball from 6 year in front of goal, we've got a full team of characters like that!
08 Nov 2015 10:06:36
Dn 30 I listened to the deila interview and he left no doubt that it is his decision and his alone who signs for the club, also I especially watch ronny during the seconds half when a blind mans dog could see it was going wrong and all that struck me was here we have a manager who give a terrific impression of a rabbit caught in the headlights, I fully understand you want deila to be successful like every other celtic also wants him to succeed, but imo that will not happen not now not in a year's time, not in 10 years time, lawwell took a punt in the dark by bringing in deila and I believe most fans have given him a fair crack of the whip but I ask you this, is the team even slightly better than the team that lost to maribor 19 signings later. the reality is the day lawwell went over his head to bring in Collins and Kennedy was the day that the dressing room was also lost, contradary to what some people think most players are not as thick as an elephants foreskin and very quickly worked out what Ronny was about and that his stay would be short.
08 Nov 2015 12:25:34
Solskjaer just had a year from hell at Cardiff so that is a great shout! We don't want, and don't need anyone else remotely close to that standard. For some reason Norweigan managers have been a nightmare in the UK - Henning Berg was sacked after a record 2 months or whatever at Blackburn, I also remember Solbakken being chased! If we do make a change we need to forget about your Owen Coyle's etc, - if we went and paid £3 million a year for a top top manager it would be the best money we ever spent because it's more important than 3 average players, - the manager will always be the most important person at any club. The board are useless though and simply not qualified to pick a manager, - Desmond wanted Keane because of aura, standing he has, especially as a world class player, he was also desperate for Coyle the first time (when he was at Burnley) - they ended up going for Mowbray. Even wanting Ronny as assistant, but going for him because he impressed at the interview, that's totally flawed also, and I like him, but that's the problem with the country - we have university graduates in high powered jobs because they come across great, look good on paper, the problem is when you are at the coal face, dealing with pressure, that's when many people buckle and it ends in tears! When Southampton wanted a new manager a few years ago they asked different highly respected people in the game and Mourinho recommended Pochettino, that's just an example, but that board of ours are useless, plain and simple!
08 Nov 2015 12:23:54
It's a lose - lose scenario whichever version you believe; if RD had no say in his transfers and signings plus accepted whatever back room staff were allocated - he is a puppet. However if he did make those mediocre and disappointing signings and is content with such an ineffective coaching team and the constant unacceptable defending - then he is fully culpable and must take the blame.
08 Nov 2015 11:30:14
DN30 don't dare accuse me of being a liar to slander our manager, I have never been one on here for slaughtering Ronny at any turn as I believe he's working with an extreme bunch of average, limited mediocre players and has good ideas for what he wants his team to look like and I have always been interested in his philosophy coming to fruition, unfortunately, he hasn't been ruthless enough in selecting the players who can play well to his system.
But what I have said is that he does himself no favours every week with the constant selections of under-performing players like Boyata, Gordon, Johansen, Armstrong, Brown and a few others. That sends no message out to the players if they're never in fear of being dropped despite performance levels and it's these players who are majorly contributing to our poor performances and results.
Lets look at the facts, before Ronny arrived at Celtic his market in Norway for Stromsgodset where he shopped in was the local market (Norweigan Football) and Manchester loan players. This is fact.
Now that he's arrived at Celtic most of our signings have been made from the local market (Scottish Football, Armstrong, GMS, Ciftci, Allan, Christie) and Manchester (Boyata, Janko, Blackett, Guidetti, Denayer) . Are you going to tell me that this is simply coincidence now that all of a sudden we are shopping in these markets now Ronny has arrived? As that would be quite a coincidence. When you also take into consideration that the last time we signed a player from another Scottish team (Stokes, Hibs, 2010) was also five years ago It's time to get your head out the sand mate and wake up to what is happening, these are Ronny signings and whilst he deserves praise for the loan of Denayer he like wise should come under fire of a bunch of imposters as far as I'm concerned that have been signed under his watch.
When he arrived here he talked about the Scottish national team and how the local market bringing in players plying their trade in our own league would be the route we would be going down, taking the best from the rest so to speak. Well I feel he has seriously overestimated the quality of Scottish football and it's only now he may have realised he's made a mistake in these players as they simply aren't good enough, there's no way these players could be sold for better fees than we paid for each of them which represents bad business as well as poor players on the park. Enough is enough for me tbh and I don't trust him with another transfer window and another crack at CL qualification. That's my opinion. I'm still willing to give him the last two games in EL but don't hold out much hope.
08 Nov 2015 13:15:53
Don't think that there is much wrong with GMS, Armstrong or Ciftci, in terms of ability, it's just that they're being asked to play out of their best positions, in systems that are not working for them, for instance that game against Molde, how do you think we would have got on, if Armstrong had played in Johansenns place and GMS had played in Armstrongs position.
08 Nov 2015 13:38:27
I think we'd have still been as poor aindoh, Armstrong is such a limited player, a poor tackler, passes, finisher, creator consistantly. He can play decent one twos at times but too few and far between. GMS has been shocking all season and he's even worse when playing in the LW position than the RW. They're not Celtic class mate let's be honest.
08 Nov 2015 14:00:56
Maybe if Armstrong and GMS were given a prolonged run inthe team, irrespective of how they were playing ala Johansenn, you would see what I mean.
08 Nov 2015 14:04:53
Its really bad when a Celtic supporter uses anything from the Celtic hater Sutton to back up his story . Sutton was earning millions at Celtic and refused to train in the afternoon when WGS became manager as he went to the bookies in the afternoon . Having lost all his money and become bankrupt as well as been forced to go from the manager's job at. Lincoln . Sutton licked the arses of the Scottish media and took up the role of Deila attacker . Sutton's new role has gave him new found friendship within the MSSM and indeed more work than if he had remained neutral
A small number of Celts believe him of course but the vast majority wouldn't touch Sutton with a barge pole .
08 Nov 2015 18:25:49
Old Bhoy you may not like Sutton but Ronnid has said before that he is in charge of recruitment. I think I would rather take rinnies word for that than take your view on it! What do you know that we don't? If he was not in charge then what is the point in giving him another season as he has had 19 players that you say we're forced on him so how does he change it anyway if your view is correct.
08 Nov 2015 19:17:05
Old bhoy, I've agreed with somethings you've being saying lately, but your way off the mark with Sutton, WGS got rid of him because he was a high earner, and he was not as great a player as he was.
This Scottish media hates us cr@p has to stop, big Sutton has just been saying the same as a lot of supporters have been saying, his opinion and nothing else.
08 Nov 2015 22:58:52
First of all, if you think Molde has "part time" players just because their 6th in the league this year, your wrong TTTS.
Molde is backed by two of the richest persons in Norway (Røkke and Gjeldsten) and have some of the best paid players in the league. In five years Molde have won 4 major trophies and won the double last season, in a league now rated better than SPL. (Tippeligaen 24, SPL 25)
Molde is rated nr 35 in Europe this season where Liverpool and Tottenham (to name a few) is rated below them.
Elyounoussi, Linnes, Forren, Hestad, Gabrielsen, Kamara, Hussain are all national team players with three of them picked for the play off against Hungary and the rest playing for U21.
Norwgian football has been turned up side down, we have had a few seasons where it seemed that nothing was getting better, but slowly over the last two seasons everything has changed a lot of it thanks to Deila and other managers in the league who understand what it takes too succeed not only in short term, but for generations.
09 Nov 2015 01:10:08
Norwegianred, if I'm honest, I think I've come to the reality that Norwegian football is stronger than Scottish, we went out today (still with defensive frailties) and won in a cantor, but against molde, we looked very weak, for us to be slagging molde, or Norwegian football is, disrespectful, and we in Scotland have to accept that our league is getting weaker every season.
10 Nov 2015 16:19:33
I have little doubt the Norwegian football compares very well with Scottish, they adopted a very defensive formation and structure against us home and away and although we seemed to go missing from time to time with any luck we could have won the home game at least . Two offside goals in first ten minutes, a couple more close things and two great headers cleared . In second half when we were really suffering the most ridiculed Johannson played a superb ball to Griffiths and I still can't understand how we didn't score .
All we get is that Deila is not up to the job, he had a right to expect& get better .